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Bogosian would be a nice piece as he is a RH dman with great size, mobility, and youth. I think more realistically we should target a guy like gormley who is probably nhl ready but is on a team with a crowded blueline. I don't think we have the depth to trade for a current top tier dman, but we could try for a potential top tier guy in gormley. maybe even rundblad but people seem to dislike him.

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NOT True. OEL is their undisputed No.1 dman.

Also, I think the wings will wait and see what they have in brunner before they make any trades of forwards for dmen.

This... OEL has improved a lot in the past couple years and is one of the best young defenders in the league. He can play in all situations, unlike Yandle.

I think if Detroit does make a move, it'll be for some kind of cheaper veteran stop-gap. The forward prospects who are excelling are ones I wouldn't want to move, and the ones I'd move aren't playing as well as they could be, and aren't attractive options to other teams. While it's probably not as appealing as other moves, I wouldn't mind Visnovsky for a pick or lower end prospect. It's clear he doesn't want to play on Long Island, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't play here.

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That supposed "team source" was one for Calgary, and was the genesis of the entire rumor. He was not a reputable source.

I agree with alot of things you say on here but you asked him for a source and he linked you directly to a source on mlive and now its not good enough? Sources are hardly ever named by name..not sure what you want from the guy.

As for the matter being discussed I think we take a shot with the crew we got back there unless we are talking 2/3 d man . Lets see how this group of guys does.

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OEL would be a GREAT trade for in which you wouldn't have to give up a lot like you would with Yandle.

Holland would need to break the bank in order to obtain OEL. He's on course to become an all-world defenseman. I would be surprised if he would not cost more than Yandle, who amounts more to a 4th forward.

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Bouwmeester is crap. He's a strong skater and he's durable. Beyond that, he's not much above average. Yandle is far more valuable.

That supposed "team source" was one for Calgary, and was the genesis of the entire rumor. He was not a reputable source.

He's got a giant contract that he's not even remotely worth, and Calgary will demand a lot in return for him.

Huh...The darndest thing...Nothing being mentioned about "crap" in this player bio http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar/hockey/player.cgi?2876

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He's crap for his cap hit and for what Calgary would demand for him.

Well - I do agree with you that's he isn't cheap (salary that is), nor will he come to Detroit cheap (although ya never know what the Flames will take in return) - however where else can Holland find a good puck moving Dman capable of playing top pairing minutes?

Unfortunately if Holland is gonna look for a legit #1/#2 Dman - he's gonna have to pay in one way, or another.

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Well - I do agree with you that's he isn't cheap (salary that is), nor will he come to Detroit cheap (although ya never know what the Flames will take in return) - however where else can Holland find a good puck moving Dman capable of playing top pairing minutes?

Unfortunately if Holland is gonna look for a legit #1/#2 Dman - he's gonna have to pay in one way, or another.

Crossing my fingers that Kenny can somehow pull off a Iginla/J-Bo trade at the deadline if indications are that Jerome won't re-sign in Calgary.

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I'd take Boumeester over Yandle any day and 3 times out of 3, given the right system this guy can be a stud again but I don't think Holland is willing to move the pieces to get him.

lol

JBo's offensive output hasn't been worth his pay cheque in years. He gets more mins in Calgary than he would here, so why would you assume his production would increase significantly? The difference in mins should make up for the small difference in systems

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lol

JBo's offensive output hasn't been worth his pay cheque in years. He gets more mins in Calgary than he would here, so why would you assume his production would increase significantly? The difference in mins should make up for the small difference in systems

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Wings were the 8th best in goals per game, and Calgary was 6th worst. I don't think it's a stretch to say the Red Wings have a better offensive hockey club.

Anyways, Bouwmeester's production isn't what I'd want him for, he helped the penalty kill a ton, something that is important for the Red Wings, especially with losing Lidstrom(who played about 1 minute a game), and Stuart(who was our main penalty killer). I just think he would flourish with the Wings, Calgary plays a passive, trap oriented system. The Red Wings transition game would translate better with Jbow's speed and pass. I just don't think it's a good fit with him in Calgary. I agree though, I really don't like his contract, but let's not act like Yandle's is much better, about 1 million dollars cheaper and 2 years longer.

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Wings are looking for a defenseman, Sergei Fedorov is thinking of making a comeback as a player. Go with what you know Kenny! :eh:

Pardon my ignorance, but are you serious about Feds wanting to return to the NHL?

If so.....If I were Holland - I'd def offer Feds a camp invite.....That guy was amazing when playing on our blueline; a 4th forward on the rush, and a guy capable of breaking up a play at any given time.....Something tells me he might've won a Norris Trophy, or two had he stayed back there.

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Pardon my ignorance, but are you serious about Feds wanting to return to the NHL?

If so.....If I were Holland - I'd def offer Feds a camp invite.....That guy was amazing when playing on our blueline; a 4th forward on the rush, and a guy capable of breaking up a play at any given time.....Something tells me he might've won a Norris Trophy, or two had he stayed back there.

I haven't heard anything about Fedorov making a comeback, I though he was happy being GM of CSKA. Funny though, I too would welcome Feds back for this short season. But at 43, I'd moreso like to see him comeback in a scout/coaching position. I am still waiting for the time when our coaching staff exists of Larionov and Fetisov...

edit: On topic, I too think that the best thing to try to do is get Visnovsky off the Island (if we could convince him to play here.) Yandle/JBo/Burns/et al. would cost way too much! Besides there will be more than a few available as UFA too come summer...

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Pardon my ignorance, but are you serious about Feds wanting to return to the NHL?

If so.....If I were Holland - I'd def offer Feds a camp invite.....That guy was amazing when playing on our blueline; a 4th forward on the rush, and a guy capable of breaking up a play at any given time.....Something tells me he might've won a Norris Trophy, or two had he stayed back there.

He wants to play in the KHL...specifically to fill the void that Datsyuk left on the team Fedorov manages.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/01/former_detroit_red_wings_great.html

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Well - I do agree with you that's he isn't cheap (salary that is), nor will he come to Detroit cheap (although ya never know what the Flames will take in return) - however where else can Holland find a good puck moving Dman capable of playing top pairing minutes?

Unfortunately if Holland is gonna look for a legit #1/#2 Dman - he's gonna have to pay in one way, or another.

Bouwmeester would be only a very minor upgrade on Quincey. For the assets and cap space we'd lose, no thanks.

Wings were the 8th best in goals per game, and Calgary was 6th worst. I don't think it's a stretch to say the Red Wings have a better offensive hockey club.

Anyways, Bouwmeester's production isn't what I'd want him for, he helped the penalty kill a ton, something that is important for the Red Wings, especially with losing Lidstrom(who played about 1 minute a game), and Stuart(who was our main penalty killer). I just think he would flourish with the Wings, Calgary plays a passive, trap oriented system. The Red Wings transition game would translate better with Jbow's speed and pass. I just don't think it's a good fit with him in Calgary. I agree though, I really don't like his contract, but let's not act like Yandle's is much better, about 1 million dollars cheaper and 2 years longer.

Bouwmeester isn't an elite defenseman.

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Bouwmeester isn't an elite defenseman.

Agreed, he hasn't played like one since he was with Florida. He would most likely cost too much for me to be interested as well. But I just can't help but feel that Bouwmeester would be such a good fit with Kronwall and the Red Wings. The reach, skating ability, positional awareness, and pass all are strengths that Bouwmeester still has. Yes his numbers have not been good, yes he is not worth 6+ million a year. But he's not Wade Redden, he's still top pairing guy, that plays 82 games every year and plays every facet of the game. He would be a better fit than Yandle, Yandle is a very good to elite defenseman, but he is purely offensive, much like Kronwall, he doesn't play the penalty kill, he won't block shots, he's not overly physical(granted Bouwmeester isn't either).

Yandle just doesn't fill a need for me with this current red wings defense, I don't think him and Kronwall's game mesh well enough they are too similar in taking offensive risks, we desperately need a top 4 guy that can kill penalties, play on the powerplay, stay healthy and be a rock for 20+ minutes a game.

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Just read a very short article in THN that said NJ is looking for offense. I'm not familiar with their D, do they have anyone that would make them a good trade partner?

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/49316-With-Parise-Sykora-out-of-the-New-Jersey-mix-Devils-search-for-shortseason-offence.html

I wouldn't mind hometown hero Andy Greene playing here. I do not think they would trade Volchenkov...all depends who is on the block from Detroit.

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