gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I don't like defending Sammy, but I doubt it's really his choice if this is indeed an issue. If the rule is there for a reason and he happens to be affected by it, how is that his fault? That Holland threw this guy $3 million a year last summer is what should really grind people's gears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I don't like defending Sammy, but I doubt it's really his choice if this is indeed an issue. If the rule is there for a reason and he happens to be affected by it, how is that his fault? That Holland threw this guy $3 million a year last summer is what should really grind people's gears. Can't dispute that fact, but Sammy was healthy and ready to go in the 2nd round but our line up didn't need him. Then he hears his name in buyout talks and is magically injured again? He better be on the LTIR all year then, cause he's a waste of space. Yet another kids roster spot eaten up by old news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 If that is the case, Sammy needs to catch a puck in the face during each and every skate. Cleary owes him one 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Can't dispute that fact, but Sammy was healthy and ready to go in the 2nd round but our line up didn't need him. Then he hears his name in buyout talks and is magically injured again? He better be on the LTIR all year then, cause he's a waste of space. Yet another kids roster spot eaten up by old news. That's what I can't figure out. He was a healthy scratch but now injured? WTF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Banish Sammy to Toledo!!! 2 Rick D and evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Sammy wants the full value of that contract (not 2/3 thru amnesty) - he knows he likely won't get anything more than a one year deal anywhere else and is holding on for dear life here using this injury excuse. I want him GONE. We have more intriguing options for injury replacements in GR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Really want Sammy gone like most people on here. Time is winding down and unfortunately it looks like it's not gonna happen 1 Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 What time tomorrow does the compliance buyout window close? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) Aside from money why would sammy push to avoid the buyout when management and likely coaches wants him gone? Its pretty obvious he is preventing the team from moving forward with his actions. He has to know he is just being a huge pain in the ass. Edited July 3, 2013 by dirtydangles 4 Dominator2005, esteef, pucktividi and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Um, because he would get a million dollars less next year? Unlike Vinny, no-one is going to give him a 5 year $20M contract This may be the last stop in his NHL career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Um, because he would get a million dollars less next year? Unlike Vinny, no-one is going to give him a 5 year $20M contract This may be the last stop in his NHL career. I said "aside from money." Is it really worth it to be disliked by an organization and fanbase for 1 million dollars when you already made plenty of money over your career? I dunno - never been in the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Sammy wants the full value of that contract (not 2/3 thru amnesty) - he knows he likely won't get anything more than a one year deal anywhere else and is holding on for dear life here using this injury excuse. I want him GONE. We have more intriguing options for injury replacements in GR. A sore pectoral muscle should not even be allowed to be used as an excuse to not be bought out. What a weasel 5 dirtydangles, Rick D, Z Winged Dangler and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Aside from money why would sammy push to avoid the buyout when management and likely coaches wants him gone? Its pretty obvious he is preventing the team from moving forward with his actions. He has to know he is just being a huge pain in the ass. more money 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Ignoring salaries we have 15 forwards signed if Brunner returns and Cleary and Fil don't. Tatar and Nyquist will not be brought up just to sit in the press box. Miller won't sit on his contract. Andersson has been great. If Helm is healthy we are screwed: Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.788m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m) Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.605m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) If I saw this logjam with any other team I would think a trade was in the works - but that is never the case with Holland. You can pretty much pencil Cleary in there too. We will have an expensive press box any way you slice it this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryguy 103 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Tom Gilbert getting bought out, right shooting dman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I said "aside from money." Is it really worth it to be disliked by an organization and fanbase for 1 million dollars when you already made plenty of money over your career? I dunno - never been in the situation. The thing is, Sammy is and always has been a "professional" hockey player. And by that, I mean his job, that he makes a living by, is playing hockey. He's not the kind of guy who plays for the love of the game and he never has been and he's always been very clear about that. When he signed for Vancouver, he was brutally honest about, it he said quite clearly and without embaressment that it was because they offered the most money. Its one of the things I've always liked about him, his brutally honest interviews. He doesn't deal in cliches and empty platitudes, he tells it exactly how he thinks *points at sig*. Its a job first and foremost to him, and he feels no loyalty to the team, the fans or the city. Like I say, I kinda admire him for it. Too many players blow smoke up the fans asses and the fans fall for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I will boo the total s*** out of him if he doesn't go away. I don't even care how irrational that makes me sound. Touchy puck, I boo.Though, he'll probably spend 70+ games on the IR, so I'd better time out my game attendance well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 The New York Islanders announced Wednesday that they have used one of their two available compliance buyouts on goalie Rick DiPietro. DiPietro had eight years remaining on his 15-year, $67.5 million contract. The Islanders will have to pay DiPietro $1.5 million annually for the next 16 years. "It was an extremely tough decision to use the compliance buyout on Rick's contract," Islanders general manager Garth Snow said. "His drive to win games and compete at the highest level for the New York Islanders was never questioned. With Rick back at 100-percent health, we wish him nothing but the best as he continues to pursue his career." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 The New York Islanders announced Wednesday that they have used one of their two available compliance buyouts on goalie Rick DiPietro. DiPietro had eight years remaining on his 15-year, $67.5 million contract. The Islanders will have to pay DiPietro $1.5 million annually for the next 16 years. "It was an extremely tough decision to use the compliance buyout on Rick's contract," Islanders general manager Garth Snow said. "His drive to win games and compete at the highest level for the New York Islanders was never questioned. With Rick back at 100-percent health, we wish him nothing but the best as he continues to pursue his career." If I was rick, I would have no problem retiring on that salary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 If anyone else signed him to a deal, they would be crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 If anyone else signed him to a deal, they would be crazy. I think Philly needs a tendy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I think Philly needs a tendy Vancouver needs a backup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Ignoring salaries we have 15 forwards signed if Brunner returns and Cleary and Fil don't. Tatar and Nyquist will not be brought up just to sit in the press box. Miller won't sit on his contract. Andersson has been great. If Helm is healthy we are screwed: Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.788m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m) Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.605m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) If I saw this logjam with any other team I would think a trade was in the works - but that is never the case with Holland. You can pretty much pencil Cleary in there too. We will have an expensive press box any way you slice it this season. Something has got to give. Simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Next buyout = kuba "@TSNBobMcKenzie: Filip Kuba is getting a compliance buyout from FLA. Has a NMC, doesn't need to go on waivers. Consider him bought out." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 @TSNBobMcKenzie: Correction, Filip Kuba's buyout from FLA is not a compliance buyout. Regular buyout. Buyout $ count against the Panthers' cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites