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Dan Rosen @drosennhl 7m

RT @BrianHedger: Bowman said they will use compliance buyouts on Montador and Olesz. #Blackhawks

Since Montador's caphit is less than the 3M required for compliance buyout, won't part of his caphit remain?

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First - for how many more seasons is Franzen going to be a 25 goal scorer? He's 33 right now. He's got another SEVEN seasons with a $4M cap hit. Once his production starts declining, since he contributes nothing else, how much longer does $4M stay good value for money?

Second - The early retirement penalties that have been brought in are a biatch. No-one expected the likes of Franzen to see out their contracts, now if he retires early, its the Wings who get punished while he sits on his mountains of cash.

Third - I hate the message that Franzen sends to our youngsters. Have a couple of half-decent seasons, sign a mega-bucks lifetime contract and coast your way into retirement

Fourth - As I already mentioned, we've had the best years of Franzen's contract - the years of artificially low cap hit with decent production. The contract is only going to get worse from here on out. If we buy him out after next season, he'll be 34 and we "only" have to pay him $12M for the remainder of his contract.

Fifth - We have lost MUCH worse players than Franzen over the years. Many and more of them, and we've always been OK. We'll survive without Franzen too.

For all the bad that comes along with Franzen's contract, he is still our leading scorer more often than not. Lecavalier is not a goal scorer, and anyone we sign to replace Franzen will cost far more, I don't see any reason to buy him out this season.

I'd use only one buyout this year though (Sammy) and save the other for next season in case Franzen's production drops or in the case of Tatar or Nyquist developing into players who can offset the loss of Franzen's goal scoring. Right now, he's still a massive bargain as far as Cap hits are concerned so why not at least keep him one more season.

We know this years Free Agent class is weak, odds are the next one will be too, but it will be the first year until the tighter cap so maybe we see a few better options hit the market next off-season.

Since Montador's caphit is less than the 3M required for compliance buyout, won't part of his caphit remain?

The 3 Million threshold was only for the accelerated buyouts used before this off-season. (Gomez and Redden)

Now that we are in the official buyout period there is no salary restrictions on who can be bought out.

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Ideally we would only Amnesty Sammy (if not tradeable) and use best trades available for Tootoo and Cola to open up roster space. I would then Amnesty Franzen at the end of next year as our youth really comes of age. We can't afford to keep both him and Z long term on the books.

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For all the bad that comes along with Franzen's contract, he is still our leading scorer more often than not. Lecavalier is not a goal scorer, and anyone we sign to replace Franzen will cost far more, I don't see any reason to buy him out this season.

I'd use only one buyout this year though (Sammy) and save the other for next season in case Franzen's production drops or in the case of Tatar or Nyquist developing into players who can offset the loss of Franzen's goal scoring. Right now, he's still a massive bargain as far as Cap hits are concerned so why not at least keep him one more season.

We know this years Free Agent class is weak, odds are the next one will be too, but it will be the first year until the tighter cap so maybe we see a few better options hit the market next off-season.

The 3 Million threshold was only for the accelerated buyouts used before this off-season. (Gomez and Redden)

Now that we are in the official buyout period there is no salary restrictions on who can be bought out.

Vinny is one of a handful of players that have scored 50 goals in a season.

This years Free Agent class is weak?

Lecavalier, Iginla, Horton, Clarkson, Bickell, Dupuis, Stallberg, Morrow, Zubrus, Ribeiro, Ryder, Elias, Jagr, Bozak, Roy, Clowe... and more to be bought out

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I'm all for signing Lecavalier, but signing him and cutting Franzen and Flip loose in the same off-season is a net loss for the Wings when it comes to scoring. Franzen would actually be a very good player to line-up with Lecavalier giving us a strong 2nd line.

As far as the FA class is concerned its not a certainty that all those players will hit the market, rights can still be traded, agreements can still be made and when July 1st rolls around I expect that list to look much worse. (Also when I said weak I mean in comparison to Franzen). The guys that will be left will probably be the guys who are looking for contracts similar in length to Franzen's (but for far more money).

There is no Parise or Suter in this years field, there are some risky veterans and a bunch of guys looking for a payday based on a good season or 2. Considering we'd have to buy Franzen out before we can attempt to sign anyone, how angry would everyone be if we bought him out and let Flip go, then failed to land Lecavalier or any of the other better free agents out there?

Ideally for me I'd buyout Sammy, and make sure I left enough room to chase Lecavalier, leave a buyout open for next season and if Franzen declines use the buyout on him then. I see no reason to use it on him this off-season.

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For all the bad that comes along with Franzen's contract, he is still our leading scorer more often than not. Lecavalier is not a goal scorer, and anyone we sign to replace Franzen will cost far more, I don't see any reason to buy him out this season.

I'd use only one buyout this year though (Sammy) and save the other for next season in case Franzen's production drops or in the case of Tatar or Nyquist developing into players who can offset the loss of Franzen's goal scoring. Right now, he's still a massive bargain as far as Cap hits are concerned so why not at least keep him one more season.

We know this years Free Agent class is weak, odds are the next one will be too, but it will be the first year until the tighter cap so maybe we see a few better options hit the market next off-season.

The 3 Million threshold was only for the accelerated buyouts used before this off-season. (Gomez and Redden)

Now that we are in the official buyout period there is no salary restrictions on who can be bought out.

Thanks, I wasn't aware it only applied to accelerated buyouts.

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For all the bad that comes along with Franzen's contract, he is still our leading scorer more often than not. Lecavalier is not a goal scorer, and anyone we sign to replace Franzen will cost far more, I don't see any reason to buy him out this season.

I'd use only one buyout this year though (Sammy) and save the other for next season in case Franzen's production drops or in the case of Tatar or Nyquist developing into players who can offset the loss of Franzen's goal scoring.

No, I agree, buy out Sammy this week, and Franzen next summer.

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The Rangers will not use their remaining compliance buyout this year. So Brad Richards remains in New York, for at least this season.

Pierre LeBrun...

Rangers announce they won't be using their last remaining compliance buyout this year. Which means Brad Richards is safe.

Probably the right move. See how he and the remaining big names on the Blueshirts respond to Vigneault.

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Player Team Length Amount

Vincent Lecavalier Tampa Bay 14 $32,666,667

Ilya Bryzgalov Philadelphia 14 $23,000,000

Danny Briere Philadelphia 4 $3,333,333

Tomas Kaberle Montreal 2 $3,000,000

Rostislav Olesz Chicago 2 $2,833,333

Steve Montador Chicago 4 $2,733,333

Here is the list of all players that have currently been bought out and the terms of their buyouts. (From TSN.ca)

55 million for the top 2 alone...yikes.

Edited by FlashyG

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I didn't know where to post this, and I haven't seen it anywhere but here is a link to Kenny saying he wants to make at least one trade leading up to the draft. He even suggests making 3-for-1 trades! Its from a couple of days ago...

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/det130625.html

Again, sorry if this is the wrong place or if it has been posted before.

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tsn said edmonton wants to trade its picks for roster players

emmerton and tootoo for edmonton's 56th pick???

islanders just lost streit so maybe coliacovo for a 6 or 7th??

i think filppula's rights will get dealt to dallas or calgary

bert and sammy are gonna be really tough to get rid of ...maybe bert returns to vanc for a late pick?ducks? maybe colorado or edm as a veteran on the team to help the kids , i cant see anyone wanting sammy

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Wild looking to deal Clutterbuck per Bob McKenzie.

I just posted that in the rumor section.

I can't believe the Wild are going to get rid of him.

Crash and bang player hits everything in sight.

I know we have no room as of right now but damn

Do like Cal

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I just posted that in the rumor section.

I can't believe the Wild are going to get rid of him.

Crash and bang player hits everything in sight.

I know we have no room as of right now but damn

Do like Cal

I love, love, love Clutterbuck, especially his name. :w00t:

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Hillarious that the Canucks are now fielding offers for Schneider..what a total mess that is..they know they can't get anything for Luongo at this point and no one will take that albatross of a contract so it's panic time.

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Hillarious that the Canucks are now fielding offers for Schneider..what a total mess that is..they know they can't get anything for Luongo at this point and no one will take that albatross of a contract so it's panic time.

I agree what a total mess in Vancouver.

Vancouver asking for a 1st pick and a prospect?

I dunno....

Edmonton supposedly interested in Schneider?

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Horton not re signing with Boston and Seguin on the block...either of those guys would look really good in red and white..wonder what they want for Seguin. as per Bob Mackenzie

Not 100 per cent yet but looks like Nathan Horton will NOT be back with BOS. B's talking trade and Tyler Seguin's name has been discussed.

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We should trade Cleary's rights for Horton's rights :lol:

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