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If Holland does covet Grabovski - does he claim him off waivers (thus accepting his contract of 5 years, and $27.5 million), or does he wait until he clears waivers, and becomes a UFA, and then competes against rival GMs for his services (mind you Grabo's cost could reach $5 million, or more in a bidding war).

That's a really good point. Especially looking at most of the available players asking for much more than they're worth. I bet he gets 5M easily on the open market. In all honestly, claiming him might actually be the smarter move. Not so sure Kenny will do that, but economically it makes perfect sense

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That's a really good point. Especially looking at most of the available players asking for much more than they're worth. I bet he gets 5M easily on the open market. In all honestly, claiming him might actually be the smarter move. Not so sure Kenny will do that, but economically it makes perfect sense

And in 1-2 seasons when Jarnkrok and Sheahan are ready to be full time NHL centres where will they play?

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That's a really good point. Especially looking at most of the available players asking for much more than they're worth. I bet he gets 5M easily on the open market. In all honestly, claiming him might actually be the smarter move. Not so sure Kenny will do that, but economically it makes perfect sense

His contract constitutes a definite overpayment for a guy who isn't all that much better than Filppula.

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That's a really good point. Especially looking at most of the available players asking for much more than they're worth. I bet he gets 5M easily on the open market. In all honestly, claiming him might actually be the smarter move. Not so sure Kenny will do that, but economically it makes perfect sense

Let me be the 1st to say that I believe paying Grabo $5 plus million per season is an overpayment...

Now with that said - the UFA market is unpredictable; once again I'm fairly certain we'll see some "wtf" signings, and I honestly doubt Grabo's "new deal" (if he does make it to UFA) will be that much cheaper than what he's currently signed for.

So far I haven't heard/read much as to whom might be interested in his services (outside of Holland), but just like with Vinny - I suspect some rival GM is lurking, and waiting to make an offer that could very well beat anything Holland offers.

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Grabovski has exactly one fight in his NHL career.

He's got one in his AHL career too!

I must've watched it and thought whoa he's tough he's fighting Chris Neil, and now I'm imagining it as several. Either way, at least he stood up for someone/himself at least once.

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His contract constitutes a definite overpayment for a guy who isn't all that much better than Filppula.

I definitely agree. But I wouldn't be surprised so see him get even as much 6M on the open market. I don't think Kenny should claim him. But F. Michael did bring up an interesting point. Of course depending on how much interest Kenny actually has in him. Just seems to be quite a head-scratching few weeks seeing what some of these players are asking for.

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Datsyuk and Grabovski played on the same team (CSKA) in KHL last year. They even were on the same line.

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And in 1-2 seasons when Jarnkrok and Sheahan are ready to be full time NHL centres where will they play?

Not wanting to sound like an ass, but how do you or anyone else know either of those 2 guys will make it to the NHL?

As of right now Grabovski is a well known entity at the NHL level, and the other 2 guys are prospects.

His contract constitutes a definite overpayment for a guy who isn't all that much better than Filppula.

Oh - I agree it's a horrid overpayment, but when looking at what Horton/Clarkson/Weiss are asking, and what Lecalvalier/Brierre are signed on for - it unfortunately seems fitting.

Again - in Booster Chat - I predicted Holland will "wait to see how things pan out" - thus losing out on any UFA, and then re-sign Filppula for 4, or 5 years at $4.5 million per season :confused:

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Grabovski is a quality player, Toronto are fools for buying him out, especially if they give Bozak the same sort of deal.

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I think Grabs is from Belarus...

Grabovski is not exactly Russian. He is Belorussian.

wiki says that Belarus became independent from Russia in 1991. Grabovski was born in 1984 ... hehe.

Doesn't matter ... him and Dats on the same line would be fun to watch them shred some teams up ... for the discounted bought out player rate of course. $3.5-4m/yr? We could use some more scorers.

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wiki says that Belarus became independent from Russia in 1991. Grabovski was born in 1984 ... hehe.

Does not make a difference. He was actually born in Postdam, East Germany but it does not make him German (or Russian). His parents are from Belarus, which makes him Belorussian.

In Soviet Union there was nationality (ethnicity) record in passport.

The internal passports identified every bearer by nationality (ethnicity) (национальность, natsional’nost’), e.g., Russian, Ukrainian, Uzbek, Estonian, Jew. This was on the so-called "fifth record" (пятая графа, pyataya grafa) of the passport. When an individual applied for his passport at age 16, his nationality would automatically be that of his parents if they were of the same nationality as one another (verified by the recorded nationality of the parents on the applicant's birth certificate). If they differed in nationality (again, based on the parents' nationality on the child's birth certificate), then the applicant would have to choose between the two nationalities. In this way an individual's passport nationality was fixed for life at age 16.

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I am not sure what is the basis for the article stating that Grabovski got a "volatile personality". If it is only because of his words about Carlyle (and only after he was no longer with the team) then I would not give it a second thought.

He is a fast skater. I think more speed would be nice for Detroit.

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Grabovski.....the guy who's not afraid to punch women in the face or demand a trade when you're scratched for a game.

The dude has major major attitude problems and am even surprised he's being considered. Not the type of attitude we want in our dressing room, especially with the youngins.

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Grabovski.....the guy who's not afraid to punch women in the face or demand a trade when you're scratched for a game.

The dude has major major attitude problems and am even surprised he's being considered. Not the type of attitude we want in our dressing room, especially with the youngins.

You sound like you don't know what your talking about. He is a great skater, can move the puck well, loves to shoot, and he had zero problems attitude wise in Toronto. Is he pissed now? Yah. His GM just told everyone earlier this week that he was not using a 2nd buyout so Grabo would be safe, then a couple days later he buys Grabo out. If Grabo had such a bad attitude, then he would have done this complaining to the media while he was still a member of the team during the season. Instead, he kept his mouth shut and kept playing and competiting.

Furthermore, in his concluding comments he had this to say: ""I need to work harder," he concluded, taking time to thank his teammates, equipment managers and fans, "I need to be smarter, I need to play harder, need to play better and score a lot of goals and do what I do the best."

To me, this sounds like a player who knows what he has to do to succeed and a good player who is ready to continue to work hard.

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You sound like you don't know what your talking about. He is a great skater, can move the puck well, loves to shoot, and he had zero problems attitude wise in Toronto. Is he pissed now? Yah. His GM just told everyone earlier this week that he was not using a 2nd buyout so Grabo would be safe, then a couple days later he buys Grabo out. If Grabo had such a bad attitude, then he would have done this complaining to the media while he was still a member of the team during the season. Instead, he kept his mouth shut and kept playing and competiting.

Furthermore, in his concluding comments he had this to say: ""I need to work harder," he concluded, taking time to thank his teammates, equipment managers and fans, "I need to be smarter, I need to play harder, need to play better and score a lot of goals and do what I do the best."

To me, this sounds like a player who knows what he has to do to succeed and a good player who is ready to continue to work hard.

Some Summer reading for you:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-grabovski-sued-by-couple-who-claim-assault-during-olympics/article1715703/

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2013/02/11/max_pacioretty_got_tetanus_shot_after_alleged_bite_by_leafs_mikhail_grabovski.html

http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2012/02/10/leafs_mikhail_grabovski_attributes_trade_from_habs_to_inexperience.html

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Your first article is something that happened 3 years ago. I do not blame Grabo for biting him how would you like a freakin glove up in your face like that. And the 3rd article proves absolutely nothing.

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Another interesting thing to take into consideration... apparently tomorrow Grabo is getting married to a chick from the Windsor area (for those of you who do not know, it is right across the border from Detroit). Maybe she will put her foot down and have him sign in Hockeytown :)

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