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Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

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On the difficulties of starting fresh with a new team for traded players [backhand Shelf]

Makes you really appreciate what Legwand did last night. Guy's played his whole NHL career with one team, one coach, one system. He gets traded to a very different thing in the Red Wings and it takes him all of one game to figure s*** out and be a force.

Also. Been sniffing around the Preds community. Seems a number of fans feel Trotz doesn't understand how to utilize high-end, top-six forwards. Like Legwand. Maybe instead of a 2C good for 40+ points, he's actually a 1C good for 50+ points.

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On the difficulties of starting fresh with a new team for traded players [backhand Shelf]

Makes you really appreciate what Legwand did last night. Guy's played his whole NHL career with one team, one coach, one system. He gets traded to a very different thing in the Red Wings and it takes him all of one game to figure s*** out and be a force.

Also. Been sniffing around the Preds community. Seems a number of fans feel Trotz doesn't understand how to utilize high-end, top-six forwards. Like Legwand. Maybe instead of a 2C good for 40+ points, he's actually a 1C good for 50+ points.

He's currently on pace for 54 I believe

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excuse me if i do not understand, but how were you being sarcastic, you either heard that people were saying that about Poile, or you made it up, and I have not heard anyone calling Poile dumb yet... not sure if you understand sarcasm or...

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harsh or bitter derision or irony.
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a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.

what you said was not sarcasm, rather just a weirdly made up non fact, a sarcastic way of saying it would have been, man I bet Nashville fans wish Poile had gotten them the deal Holland got us, or some other parting shot like that

EDIT: Grammar

So basically,you have problem with one of my (non)sarcastic post,but you don't mind listening,hearing,reading one spin after another first from Ken and then from some ppl here how our top,Hank like prospect,turned into expendable bottom liner just over night.

I respect your choice,really do(not being sarcastic nor ironic)

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And people say he's a 3rd liner at best? I'd say fourth line...

Legwand still may ultimately end up centering the third line if Pav and Weiss ever come back, this season or if Legwand sticks around. Not that he is a third line quality center (though, I would say second is more appropriate than first), but that's where he might be slotted given the Red Wings depth up the middle. Playing with Mule and Gus doesn't hurt his cause right now either.

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Legwand still may ultimately end up centering the third line if Pav and Weiss ever come back, this season or if Legwand sticks around. Not that he is a third line quality center (though, I would say second is more appropriate than first), but that's where he might be slotted given the Red Wings depth up the middle. Playing with Mule and Gus doesn't hurt his cause right now either.

Definitely a 2nd liner. Good insurance for if Weiss does completely bust on us

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He's topped 50 before. I'm just talking his approximate average. Actually, I don't even want to be that specific. My point was simply that David Legwand the Red Wing may be > David Legwand the Predator. Maybe he's got another level that he could never really hit as a Pred, given their system and such. Some Preds fans certainly think so.

Consider Flip. He was good for us, but the Bolts seem to be a better fit for him. Actually, maybe that's a bad example, since the implicit understanding in what I'm saying is what Barry Melrose (of all people!) has often said: wearing the Winged Wheel brings out the best in players (except Quincey).

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So basically,you have problem with one of my (non)sarcastic post,but you don't mind listening,hearing,reading one spin after another first from Ken and then from some ppl here how our top,Hank like prospect,turned into expendable bottom liner just over night.

I respect your choice,really do(not being sarcastic nor ironic)

You made a post saying everyone was unhappy, then said later it was sarcasm. It made no sense, I was trying to show you the difference. Didn't mean anything by it.

Jarnkrok was promising but he's also 22 already and hasn't really shown his potential at all. I wish him the best but too many guys already ahead of him. If it came down to sheahan or jarnkrok I would take sheahan any day.

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This is the first time for me chiming in on this trade.

While it was far from glamorous, I think it was an alright deal. People are calling it a "panic" move. It wasn't. It was a move to fill a massive hole at center on a team ravaged by injuries in a dog fight to make the playoffs. If Holland had done nothing, most of us would be losing our minds.

I liked Jarnkrok as prospect. I defended the s*** out of him in the "Dirty Harry" Callahan thread a while back. But the fact is, right now, the Wings have too many B-B+ prospects. Make no mistake, that's what Jarnkrok was. They could afford to make this deal.

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Not true, I knew you were going to say that.

It's very difficult to debate about a player's unknown future when it is so far off and no one here is psychic.

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Agree,there are many centers ahead of Jarnkrok in his 1st AHL season,no surprise,except some of them have major injury concerns and some are still in OHL and SEL which means 4-5 years from making the Wings team.

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I fully support a conservative trading philosophy. But lately, it's not like we're holding out for very good trades.

Giving up a first round pick was overpayment for Quincey even before he played a single awful game for us. And I still think Poile strongarmed Holland for Jarnkrok; we probably could have gotten away with less since Nashville didn't want to lose Legwand for nothing and he had a NTC.

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Keeps getting better and better

Jarnkrok has proven he can be a point per game player in the AHL over the past 20 games. It's certainly not just a hot streak either; he seems to have gotten his offensive game together (after already being very good defensively).

Nyquist was also a point per game player in his first full AHL season at the same age (22). And we all know how good Nyquist is for us now...

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Yes, in the AHL tonight. Not with Nashville. Give me a break.

Still racking up the pts .... Get yourself a kit kat

Jarnkrok has proven he can be a point per game player in the AHL over the past 20 games. It's certainly not just a hot streak either; he seems to have gotten his offensive game together (after already being very good defensively).

Nyquist was also a point per game player in his first full AHL season at the same age (22). And we all know how good Nyquist is for us now...

Jurco was also a pt per game guy when he came up this yr ....anyone know how many pts he's had now in like his last 15-20 games?

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Still racking up the pts .... Get yourself a kit kat

Jurco was also a pt per game guy when he came up this yr ....anyone know how many pts he's had now in like his last 15-20 games?

No one's arguing that Calle's not playing well in the AHL or that he doesn't have NHL upside.

Holland's responsibility is to keep Detroit in the hunt. He's not going to stand pat and throw in the season towel just so we can horde B caliber prospects.

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Does anybody else think this is mostly due to other teams not wanting to trade with us?? Thats quite a drop off from other teams.

EDIT: Average of 109 trades per team. And we had 33. Perhaps other teams just jack up the prices when the wings call, I mean every GM knows that for the last 23 seasons we've been buyers and not sellers.

Edited by roboturner

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No one's arguing that Calle's not playing well in the AHL or that he doesn't have NHL upside.

Holland's responsibility is to keep Detroit in the hunt. He's not going to stand pat and throw in the season towel just so we can horde B caliber prospects.

I guess if jarnkrok is a b prospect then besides mantha and anyone in the wings line up then we are seriously screwed Edited by nyqvististhefuture
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Does anybody else think this is mostly due to other teams not wanting to trade with us?? Thats quite a drop off from other teams.

Does anybody else think this is mostly due to other teams not wanting to trade with us?? Thats quite a drop off from other teams.

Kenny just sticks with the same team over and over and over again (Samuelson cleary bertuzzi Quincey) we always suffer injuries cause we always have injury prone players for some reason so when they come back we stand pat cause there our trade deadline moves (so holland says)

If he's gonna make moves like this id much rather prefer he stand pat unless it's for a stud dman or young star forward

WE LIKE OUR TEAM

Ahh One of Kenny's famous lines

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Jarnkrok with a goal and an assist tonight.

So is this thread going to get bumped every time he gets a point in the AHL? Good lord lets wait until he proves he can score against NHL competition before posting about every point he gets.

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