Smith and Ericcsson?

[WingsallTheway 383]

Thank god ouelette. Paid $200 to go to the leafs-wings game this saturday and do NOT want to see a lash-kindl pairing

[matt198913 932]

Fight bite. Had it myself before. Not a serious thing just needs to be treated.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

I think Babcock tells guys no fighting, Holland has nothing to do with it.

[Smite 399]

Fight bite. Had it myself before. Not a serious thing just needs to be treated.

Same here.. Long time ago.. You need to scrub the hands clean and disenfect afterwards or this happens.

[dirtydangles 1,328]

Hockey equipment is filthy and I can't imagine putting his hand back in a sweaty glove helped the situation.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Hockey equipment is filthy and I can't imagine putting his hand back in a sweaty glove helped the situation.

Agreed, but you'd think they would've cleaned it and covered it after the fight.

It seems a little odd an infection shows up that fast.

I'm really starting to wonder about the Wings training staff.

[Echolalia 2,961]

Agreed, but you'd think they would've cleaned it and covered it after the fight.

It seems a little odd an infection shows up that fast.

I'm really starting to wonder about the Wings training staff.

They could have glued him shut with some neosporin, and bandaged the wound shut (awkward placement as it is because the wound was on the knuckle), and all the movement and sweating that occurs in the glove, plus friction against the inside of the glove itself could easily been enough to allow the wound to be exposed to bacteria.

[dirtydangles 1,328]

teeth could have transmitted bacteria too.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

They could have glued him shut with some neosporin, and bandaged the wound shut (awkward placement as it is because the wound was on the knuckle), and all the movement and sweating that occurs in the glove, plus friction against the inside of the glove itself could easily been enough to allow the wound to be exposed to bacteria.

True.

I guess I'm just surprised an infection would show up that fast.

And really the crack about the trainers is more about the groin injuries that this team seems particularly susceptible to.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

Didn't Joe Kocur once infect his hand after KO'ing Jim Playfair in a preseason game? Pretty sure that's what happened.

[matt198913 932]

I really hope when he comes back Oulette stays.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

For those of us who didn't catch the game. Not much of a fight but you can see Smith holding his hand immediately afterwards.

[canadian wings fan 305]

f*** ya Smithy way to stand up for yourself

[WingsAlways 486]

I'm thinking he cut his hand on the helmet and could have gotten sweat or saliva in the wound. I agree that the infection spread pretty fast especially knowing it had to be treated by team docs not long afterwards.

I've cut my knuckles open more than a few times and never had an infection set up, sure gets sore afterwards though.

[Jesusberg 1,256]

Fair enough about putting his hand back into bacteria filled equipment being the reason, but who's the genius who put him back out there?

"We're up 4-0 and you've got an open wound on your hand. Get back out there, chief."

It didn't occur to the training staff that this might happen? At worse, they may have said, "well, it's likely that your hand is already infection from making contact with Foligno's teeth - go out there and make it worse!"

It just feels like it could have been avoided, or handled better, but I know nothing about this kind of thing.

[kipwinger 8,524]

Why does there seem to be some sort of weird, pathalogical, need to assign blame to each and every little thing that happens to this team? Smith went back out because he wanted to play, the coach probably wanted him to play, and the folks signing his checks want him to play. A cut on his hand is a minor injury. The kind that hockey players sustain CONSTANTLY throughout a season. Think about all the times that you see blood in the course of a hockey season. All of those are cuts, and all of those have the potential to get infected. Most don't. This one did. It's not anyone's fault. It just happened.

[AtlantaHotWings 991]

First referees are against the Wings and now bacteria joins the anti-Wings bandwagon!!

[Jesusberg 1,256]

Why does there seem to be some sort of weird, pathalogical, need to assign blame to each and every little thing that happens to this team? Smith went back out because he wanted to play, the coach probably wanted him to play, and the folks signing his checks want him to play. A cut on his hand is a minor injury. The kind that hockey players sustain CONSTANTLY throughout a season. Think about all the times that you see blood in the course of a hockey season. All of those are cuts, and all of those have the potential to get infected. Most don't. This one did. It's not anyone's fault. It just happened.

There's not, on my part anyway, but this just seems careless. Considering where the team was at that point in the game, (up by 4, 11 minutes left and 6 mins by the time his penalty was over) he shouldn't have been back out. It was pointless for him to come back out, and now his hand is worse off than it had to be. Whether it's Smith's call, Babs' call or the training staff, it could have been avoided. It's more about the situation than a minor injury that occurs constantly throughout the season.

[kipwinger 8,524]

There's not, on my part anyway, but this just seems careless. Considering where the team was at that point in the game, (up by 4, 11 minutes left and 6 mins by the time his penalty was over) he shouldn't have been back out. It was pointless for him to come back out, and now his hand is worse off than it had to be. Whether it's Smith's call, Babs' call or the training staff, it could have been avoided. It's more about the situation than a minor injury that occurs constantly throughout the season.

You're advocating holding a guy out of the remainder of the game, for a cut on his hand, because there's a possibility of infection?

Can you even think of another time in the last 20 years that a player missed a game due to an infected cut on their hand? That's how unlikely, and flukey, this injury is. To suggest that someone ought to know better (regardless of the score) displays magnificent foresight, hindsight, or (more likely) both.

Athletes want to play. Coaches want them to play. They're not going to sit out for something so unlikely. Can you imagine how deep in Babs' doghouse Smith would be if he sat out the rest of the game because "maybe his hand could get an infection"? Babs' would ******* lose it.

[Jesusberg 1,256]

You're advocating holding a guy out of the remainder of the game, for a cut on his hand, because there's a possibility of infection?

Can you even think of another time in the last 20 years that a player missed a game due to an infected cut on their hand? That's how unlikely, and flukey, this injury is. To suggest that someone ought to know better (regardless of the score) displays magnificent foresight, hindsight, or (more likely) both.

Athletes want to play. Coaches want them to play. They're not going to sit out for something so unlikely. Can you imagine how deep in Babs' doghouse Smith would be if he sat out the rest of the game because "maybe his hand could get an infection"? Babs' wouldf****** lose it.

Yep. I think it could have been handled better - simply just for precautionary measures, beyond the possibility of infection. Considering where they were in the game (which is basically my point, but by all means, keep focusing on the infection aspect and giving me a detailed history on "Fluky Hand Injuries: NHL Coaches and the Players They've Doghoused). Just my opinion on it.

[Echolalia 2,961]

Yep. I think it could have been handled better - simply just for precautionary measures, beyond the possibility of infection. Considering where they were in the game (which is basically my point, but by all means, keep focusing on the infection aspect and giving me a detailed history on "Fluky Hand Injuries: NHL Coaches and the Players They've Doghoused). Just my opinion on it.

I think a more reasonable approach would be to not fight to begin with

[Jesusberg 1,256]

I think a more reasonable approach would be to not fight to begin with

I agree completely.

[kipwinger 8,524]

Yep. I think it could have been handled better - simply just for precautionary measures, beyond the possibility of infection. Considering where they were in the game (which is basically my point, but by all means, keep focusing on the infection aspect and giving me a detailed history on "Fluky Hand Injuries: NHL Coaches and the Players They've Doghoused). Just my opinion on it.

So if the score was 4-0 and Smith had taken a high stick that needed stitches, would you have kept him off the ice in that instance too?

[Jesusberg 1,256]

So if the score was 4-0 and Smith had taken a high stick that needed stitches, would you have kept him off the ice in that instance too?

No. I think they could patch him up properly in that instance, and the cut isn't pressed up against sweaty gear. Not to mention, a cut on the cheek, nose, etc (except for maybe his eye) isn't going to impact his play nearly as much as an infection setting in on his hand.

[derblaueClaus 1,668]

The solution to the problem is simple : All of this of course wouldn't have happened with McGrattan......