Dave 324 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 They're trading him because they can't afford to re-sign him. How would sending Nyquist, who they also couldn't afford to re-sign, be enticing to them? He was always going for futures. And if that's all you're going to get in return, why trade within the division? That makes sense. It's just crazy. He is the exact type of player that Holland and Babcock were whining about for the past 4 years. The fact that he was even available was silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings4thecup06 504 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 does anyone have a stream for tonights draft that's viewable in europe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 That makes sense. It's just crazy. He is the exact type of player that Holland and Babcock were whining about for the past 4 years. The fact that he was even available was silly. I agree. In hindsight, wouldn't you rather have Boychuk, Seguin, and Hamilton than about half of Boston's team? Aside from Bergeron, every single player on that team is more expendable than the three of those guys. You can excuse one or two mistakes every few years, but man, those are some serious missteps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) s*** made a topic about hamtilon didn't know it was being discussed here ... Someone can close it Well flames was another team I was hoping detroit might trade back to get 2 2nds ,this days not going good lol At this point just offer it up to Columbus for 30 and 32 They're trading him because they can't afford to re-sign him. How would sending Nyquist, who they also couldn't afford to re-sign, be enticing to them? He was always going for futures. And if that's all you're going to get in return, why trade within the division? I agree they probably couldn't resign him but still could of gotten more , at this point he's young enough id of offered up next years first round pick as well Edited June 26, 2015 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 I agree. In hindsight, wouldn't you rather have Boychuk, Seguin, and Hamilton than about half of Boston's team? Aside from Bergeron, every single player on that team is more expendable than the three of those guys. You can excuse one or two mistakes every few years, but man, those are some serious missteps. That's what I keep thinking. Why not shed Chris Kelly or one of their other 2 upcoming UFAs: Lucic, Eriksson. It would be especially funny if some of those players don't re-sign. Now they've gutted the defence in the past two years. Those 3 picks could be more valuable than Hamilton, but that's about 3 years away and by then Chara will be 41 and Seidenberg will be 36. That doesn't seem like a good timeline for success to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 My Rick Nash comparison was a loose powerforward association, don't take it too literally. But yeah he was supposed to be our next 1st line powerforward. Overhyped or not he's already crapping the bed in that department. Mantha's gone from "He's gonna make the team his first year as a pro and be our future top line winger" to "Well he can still probably contribute something I think" and you people are ok with that. It's pathetic and embarrassing. Doesn't use his size, doesn't back check, and only about half his scoring translated to the minors. But yeah, I'm sure he'll be the next Rick Nash. Mantha's 2014-15 season tells us nothing that we didn't already know about him. We drafted him with the understanding that he was going to be a project, that his first year as a pro would probably be spent in Grand Rapids and wouldn't necessarily be anything to write home about. In major junior, he was a big fish in a small pond; he didn't have to play a strong two-way game, he didn't have to battle against grown men, he didn't have to keep his feet moving at all times, the pace was nothing like pro hockey, and QMJHL goaltending is notoriously awful. And in terms of physical fitness and conditioning...if a teenager is going to play in the AHL, he has to put in a lot of extra time at the gym. (Even someone as fit and fleet of foot as Larkin has to bulk up and condition his body to withstand the rigors of the pro game and, in time, the murderous marathon that is the NHL schedule.) Mantha had all this to contend with - and then he broke his leg. Even before he broke his leg, I wasn't expecting greatness from him this season. He's got a long, long way to go before he becomes a first-line winger. I believe he'll get there, but it's just going to take a while. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legendary D In 03 50 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Skinner apparently being shopped according to LeBrun. I know that we should probably be focusing on defense, but despite a disappointing last season and concussion problems, this kid still has a TON of upside. What would it take to get that deal done? Edited June 26, 2015 by Legendary D In 03 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Per ESPN: Lucic traded to Kings for #13 pick, Colin Miller and Martin Jones, the B's now have picks 13,14, and 15. But will still probably have nothing..... Edited June 26, 2015 by turbowhistle86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Noooo now I don't like the kings anymore :'( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Skinner apparently being shopped according to LeBrun. I know that we should probably be focusing on defense, but despite a disappointing last season and concussion problems, this kid still has a TON of upside. What would it take to get that deal done?We have enough small wingers,And his concussions are concerning. Hard pass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Good to see the Kings just got slower and dumber. That should go over well with Sutter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Noooo now I don't like the kings anymore :'( I've never liked the Kings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Nick Kypreos @RealKyper 1m1 minute ago O'Reilly to #sabres close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermind 363 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Nick Kypreos @RealKyper 1m1 minute ago O'Reilly to #sabres close. Bad trade for Buffalo unless they've agreed to terms for an extension with O'Reilly already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 What a feeling it must be when your team adds a young and exciting player... One day... Why is it the Bruins have developed so many great defensemen and we haven't developed one since kronwall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 What a feeling it must be when your team adds a young and exciting player... One day... Why is it the Bruins have developed so many great defensemen and we haven't developed one since kronwall Dmen take longer to hit their stride than forwards do. So unless you can draft a guy like Hamilton as one of the top picks, it is all about the waiting game. We may already have dmen that can become great. We just don't know yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC 2m2 minutes ago Hearing BUF considering Zadorov, Grigorenko and 31st pick for O'Reilly. Good Lord what a price! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 What a feeling it must be when your team adds a young and exciting player... One day... Why is it the Bruins have developed so many great defensemen and we haven't developed one since kronwall Cheer up. Someday we'll acquire a player like Lucic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Helene St. James @HeleneStJames 1m1 minute ago Red Wings have had trade talks with lots of teams, but GM Ken Holland said, "There's been nothing close to doing a deal." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 On the draft show. Talks about Mcdavid for five straight minutes, then says jack eichel, not just a consolation prize, but probably a franchise center(says one more line about eichel.. Yeah, yeah, yeah but let's bring it back to Mcdavid.(proceed to talk Mcdavid for another five-10 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Cheer up. Someday we'll acquire a player like Lucic. Not mad we never landed any of these guys aside from Hamilton and maybe ROR if the price wasn't ridiculous. Just would be exciting adding an impact player to this team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Not mad we never landed any of these guys aside from Hamilton and maybe ROR if the price wasn't ridiculous. Just would be exciting adding an impact player to this team Well, to be fair, I think that's what Holland's been trying to do through the draft. But yeah, sometimes I feel the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Helene St. James @HeleneStJames 1m1 minute ago Red Wings have had trade talks with lots of teams, but GM Ken Holland said, "There's been nothing close to doing a deal." And everyone is sooooo surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 1m1 minute ago Zadorov, Grigorenko, No. 31, JT Compher for RYan Oreilly and Jamie McGinn. Jeez Buffalo gave up a boatload Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 1m1 minute ago Zadorov, Grigorenko, No. 31, JT Compher for RYan Oreilly and Jamie McGinn. Jeez Buffalo gave up a boatload Would that be similar to Larkin + Mantha + the 19th? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
