DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted March 22, 2015 huge win, we clearly play better against the West still. not good unless we get to the finals we have a tough time with tb, mtl, nyr's style of play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 Not being able to use your broken stick to score a goal is a dumb rule. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvanpop 98 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 It is funny. We were happy to leave the west cause we were finding it easier to play against Eastern teams but now that we're here we're better against Western teams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 It is funny. We were happy to leave the west cause we were finding it easier to play against Eastern teams but now that we're here we're better against Western teams 6-0 against Nashville, St. Louis and Chicago this season. Can't beat Montreal or Tampa Bay for anything, though. I think I'll still pass on those 10:30 start times. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 Never thought of this before, but Babs spent his entire coaching career in the West, up until last season. Maybe he's still adjusting to coaching games against so many East teams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 1 thegerkin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 Punching a helmet with your bare knuckles has got to hurt ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 That fight + the fact that he hasn't missed any games in what seems like forever, officially makes Miller the toughest Wing. He's even tougher than Brandon Prust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 Didn't have a chance to watch the game, but glad they got the win. How'd we look? I see the refs helped us out a little on the OT winner. When will the league, Bettman, the refs, etc. be held accountable for their Red Wings bias? I mean, first the Dallas game and now this? Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 2 derblaueClaus and jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cprice12 117 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 My thoughts... I thought it was a pretty entertaining game. Not as intense as our game against the Jets the other night, but it was a good game. Blues fans, including myself, are obviously a bit frustrated at the types of goals that went in against us (especially after 5 of the 6 goals the Wild scored on us on Saturday were goofy goals as well). The shot off of Butler's face that squirts right to Cole who chips it in with a wedge, and of course the goal that shouldn't have counted by Abdelkader in OT. It really is a joke that that kind of play isn't reviewable. We discussed this at length last night on our podcast about it being a clear no goal that isn't subjective at all. I know the league doesn't want the war room getting into the business of calling penalties (they've said as much), which is what would have happened if they were able to review the goal...goal is waived off and Abdelkader goes in the box for playing the puck with a broken stick and it's 3 on 3 with the Blues getting a short PP after that. But why shouldn't they call penalties on plays like that? I think especially in situations where a goal is scored, it should be a reviewable play. But even if you think the war room shouldn't be calling penalties, they could at least say that goals scored with a possible broken stick are reviewable plays, but no penalty will be granted and the faceoff goes down to the other end or something. Of course, I'm sure you'll get guys bolting to the bench to hide the broken stick after scoring a goal with it...but with all of the cameras out there, they couldn't get away with that very easily. The sad part is that Toronto did review the goal. They review every goal to make sure it's legit. So they very much indeed saw that the goal shouldn't have counted...but they couldn't say anything about it. That's just wrong. It might be a while before you see a goal like that again...they aren't common. But it wouldn't hurt to have that rule in the rulebook just in case. The NHL doesn't want the Stanley Cup decided on another goal that shouldn't have counted. I think you guys can understand that we feel we deserved a better fate in this game. Just got a bit unlucky on the first goal, and then flat out hosed on the 2nd goal. But hey, maybe we can get some revenge when we meet the Wings in the finals. I know that I speak for just about every Blues fan when I say that I would LOVE to meet the Wings in the finals. (but let's be honest...we'd love for the Blues to meet anyone in the finals) Good game Good game Good game Good game F*ck you Good game Good game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvanpop 98 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 My thoughts... I thought it was a pretty entertaining game. Not as intense as our game against the Jets the other night, but it was a good game. Blues fans, including myself, are obviously a bit frustrated at the types of goals that went in against us (especially after 5 of the 6 goals the Wild scored on us on Saturday were goofy goals as well). The shot off of Butler's face that squirts right to Cole who chips it in with a wedge, and of course the goal that shouldn't have counted by Abdelkader in OT. It really is a joke that that kind of play isn't reviewable. We discussed this at length last night on our podcast about it being a clear no goal that isn't subjective at all. I know the league doesn't want the war room getting into the business of calling penalties (they've said as much), which is what would have happened if they were able to review the goal...goal is waived off and Abdelkader goes in the box for playing the puck with a broken stick and it's 3 on 3 with the Blues getting a short PP after that. But why shouldn't they call penalties on plays like that? I think especially in situations where a goal is scored, it should be a reviewable play. But even if you think the war room shouldn't be calling penalties, they could at least say that goals scored with a possible broken stick are reviewable plays, but no penalty will be granted and the faceoff goes down to the other end or something. Of course, I'm sure you'll get guys bolting to the bench to hide the broken stick after scoring a goal with it...but with all of the cameras out there, they couldn't get away with that very easily. The sad part is that Toronto did review the goal. They review every goal to make sure it's legit. So they very much indeed saw that the goal shouldn't have counted...but they couldn't say anything about it. That's just wrong. It might be a while before you see a goal like that again...they aren't common. But it wouldn't hurt to have that rule in the rulebook just in case. The NHL doesn't want the Stanley Cup decided on another goal that shouldn't have counted. I think you guys can understand that we feel we deserved a better fate in this game. Just got a bit unlucky on the first goal, and then flat out hosed on the 2nd goal. But hey, maybe we can get some revenge when we meet the Wings in the finals. I know that I speak for just about every Blues fan when I say that I would LOVE to meet the Wings in the finals. (but let's be honest...we'd love for the Blues to meet anyone in the finals) Good game Good game Good game Good game F*ck you Good game Good game If they determined Abdelkader purposely played the puck with a broken stick it would've been a 4 on 4 because his stick was slashed. To me it was a quick play that would've been hard to determine if he did it on purpose. 1 wings87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 If they determined Abdelkader purposely played the puck with a broken stick it would've been a 4 on 4 because his stick was slashed. To me it was a quick play that would've been hard to determine if he did it on purpose. His stick wasn't slashed. At least not causing his stick to break. Abby broke it on Allen's pad while trying to get his stick in front of the net to tap the puck in. The goal shouldn't have counted, but it did and it's nice to get a call in our favor after the Glendening goalie interference call in Washington earlier this season. I'm not shedding any tears for the Blues or their fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 Did Babs clear the bench after the goal went in? Seen him do that on possible questionable OT goals before. It's a smart move. Celebrate then hit the dressing room. Goals won't be called back after that. "Ummm guys, I know your skates are already off and fans are leaving, but you have to come back out and finish the game, the goal did'nt count". Never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 Did Babs clear the bench after the goal went in? Seen him do that on possible questionable OT goals before. It's a smart move. Celebrate then hit the dressing room. Goals won't be called back after that. "Ummm guys, I know your skates are already off and fans are leaving, but you have to come back out and finish the game, the goal did'nt count". Never happen. I'm pretty sure they have done it before. I think it was a shootout and the rangers, but they called the team back from the dressing room to continue the shootout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 I'm pretty sure they have done it before. I think it was a shootout and the rangers, but they called the team back from the dressing room to continue the shootout Weird. Those musta been some pretty determined refs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 To not count a goal like this is absolutely ridiculous, we want more goals in the league not fewer. That rule is a joke. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 I never really understood the can't play the puck with a broken stick rule. It doesn't give the player any kind of advantage of his stick is broken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 I never really understood the can't play the puck with a broken stick rule. It doesn't give the player any kind of advantage of his stick is broken It's more of a player safety thing, they don't want people swinging around jagged pieces of metal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted March 23, 2015 I see no issue with the goal. When a player breaks his stick and doesn't drop it, the refs more often than not warn the player before they call a penalty. The stick break and goal all happened so quick it is irrelevant really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted March 24, 2015 There is no argument, the goal shouldn't have counted, it was missed, take the gift and move on. Those arguing that it should have counted anyway are wrong. In terms of clearing the ice quickly as if you got away with something...they may do that, but if there is a review.....the team having left the ice would have 0% bearing on any decision. If the wrong call was made (and the play is reviewable, in this case it's not), the team would be called back to the ice....even if they are all showering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted March 24, 2015 Lindbolm cannot hold a note Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrazekFanBoy 223 Report post Posted March 24, 2015 People do realize Nyquist is a pass first type of guy right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) People do realize Nyquist is a pass first type of guy right? That's a pretty tenuous characterization for a guy who has 54 goals, and 55 assists in his short NHL career. Joe Thornton is "pass first". Valterri Filppula is "pass first". I think it would be misleading to describe Nyquist's game in a similar fashion. So far in his short career he's been a significantly better finisher than most NHLers. Edited March 24, 2015 by kipwinger 2 mvanpop and MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 24, 2015 In terms of clearing the ice quickly as if you got away with something...they may do that, but if there is a review.....the team having left the ice would have 0% bearing on any decision. If the wrong call was made (and the play is reviewable, in this case it's not), the team would be called back to the ice....even if they are all showering I know they could be called back out. Just meant how often do you see that happen? If the coach knows they got away with something, it's good to get to the dressing room and take the chance rather than sit there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
