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12/08 GDT : Red Wings at Washington Capitals, 7:30 ET

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I think Pavs shootout problem is that he's really fosing on getting it on net more than anything so he sacrifices his strong deke that we used to see. I'd rather see Nyquist try and beat the goalie on a wrister. Teams must watch shootout videos and know that's his go to move. Haven't seen Nyquist try anything else on breakaways. It's either the quick shot or fake five-hole. Not sure he has very many moves for the shootout

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I think Pavs shootout problem is that he's really fosing on getting it on net more than anything so he sacrifices his strong deke that we used to see. I'd rather see Nyquist try and beat the goalie on a wrister. Teams must watch shootout videos and know that's his go to move. Haven't seen Nyquist try anything else on breakaways. It's either the quick shot or fake five-hole. Not sure he has very many moves for the shootout

Teams, and goalies more specifically, MOST DEFINITELY watch shootout videos of guys they are going to face. ESPECIALLY IF YOUR NAME IS PAVEL DATSYUK!!!! Which makes it even more confusing that he has used the same "two-move" combo for the last 3 years. Goalies are sitting on that move the whole way.

Watch Holtby on that attempt. He literally barely moves...

It wasn't the shootout that cost the game. That pathetic pp in overtime was the culprit. Needed Larkin then.

Pav, Hank, Kronner, and Green combo made no sense to me. Who is supposed to be the shooter of that group? And how do you expect to score on Holtby when none of those guys will be in front?

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Pav, Hank, Kronner, and Green combo made no sense to me. Who is supposed to be the shooter of that group? And how do you expect to score on Holtby when none of those guys will be in front?

Hank probably. He has one of our best slap shots (aside from Pulkkinen).

He just decided that this is the year he stops taking them. Since slapshots and 4 on3's don't go together...

Except that they do.

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Good game with 2 good teams. Unfortunately the refs were awful and it had an impact on the game. I'm not blaming the refs but they didn't help.

Howard stunk in the shootout. I knew he'd let in a 5 whole goal. Back to mrazek Thursday please.

Blash Needs to give pav something to work with! Helm SUCKS. He honestly gives away the puck in the offensive zone every chance he gets. He belongs on the 4th line or 3rd line if blash plays pav and hank together. But fact is pav needs something to work with.

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ps. for a change can we have same advantage in power plays as caps had last game 6-2 ?

Ok, I know it is unrealistic, but can it be even this time around?

I'd have to admit refs are being consistent: 5-1.

ps. and man, stapler (aka ovie) is such a f***!!

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I agree, Howard doesn't perform up to his salary in shootout situations. Gotta fix that to par at least or simply shove him down to a backup position.

I'll gladly take the lone point though, we did a good job overall against a good team in their arena.

Larkin still looking damn good. Probably a little sore from Ovechkin's hit but he'll be fine after sleeping it out.

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Good game with 2 good teams. Unfortunately the refs were awful and it had an impact on the game. I'm not blaming the refs but they didn't help.

Howard stunk in the shootout. I knew he'd let in a 5 whole goal. Back to mrazek Thursday please.

Blash Needs to give pav something to work with! Helm SUCKS. He honestly gives away the puck in the offensive zone every chance he gets. He belongs on the 4th line or 3rd line if blash plays pav and hank together. But fact is pav needs something to work with.

His ability to allow five hole goals is astounding. Did you catch the post game interview with Oshie? He said he wasn't even planning on shooting five hole but "saw something there."

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I love how Howard helps get the team a point but the focus is that he didn't get the extra point because he is bad at a gimmick.

Also, keep in mind that Mrazek hasn't exactly lit up the sky recently (two games in a row with a sub-.900 save percentage), so I don't understand why people are so excited to go right back to him. He should have a bounce-back game, but I also thought he was going to have a bounce-back game against Nashville.

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I love how Howard helps get the team a point but the focus is that he didn't get the extra point because he is bad at a gimmick.

Also, keep in mind that Mrazek hasn't exactly lit up the sky recently (two games in a row with a sub-.900 save percentage), so I don't understand why people are so excited to go right back to him. He should have a bounce-back game, but I also thought he was going to have a bounce-back game against Nashville.

He won. And while he didn't play his best he made some late saves. Remember that ot save and then play went the other way and we won. Mrazek is clutch. Jimmy isn't. Mrazek better play against the Habs.

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He won. And while he didn't play his best he made some late saves. Remember that ot save and then play went the other way and we won. Mrazek is clutch. Jimmy isn't. Mrazek better play against the Habs.

As yes, the Gustavsson principle.

Are you saying last night Mrazek would have let in 4 goals but his clutchness and intangibles would have willed the Wings offense to score more on the few shots they took?

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He won. And while he didn't play his best he made some late saves. Remember that ot save and then play went the other way and we won. Mrazek is clutch. Jimmy isn't. Mrazek better play against the Habs.

Not a Jimmy fan myself but this is a weak argument. Mrazek HAS sucked the last two games and I'd say he's lucky we scored in OT in the Nashville game.

Jimmy on the other hand was screwed by his team who had a damn 4 on 3 PP and blew it. Because aside from all the criticism we like to give him, he had close to 40 saves last night.

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Not a Jimmy fan myself but this is a weak argument. Mrazek HAS sucked the last two games and I'd say he's lucky we scored in OT in the Nashville game.

Jimmy on the other hand was screwed by his team who had a damn 4 on 3 PP and blew it. Because aside from all the criticism we like to give him, he had close to 40 saves last night.

yea .95 save percentage. If we don't win a game on those numbers it wasn't the goalie's fault.

I think I hate watching the shootout more even though I'm seeing less of it.

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As yes, the Gustavsson principle.

Are you saying last night Mrazek would have let in 4 goals but his clutchness and intangibles would have willed the Wings offense to score more on the few shots they took?

Perhaps you are forgetting the first 2 games mrazek played against the caps. He plays very well against them and should have played. The team plays better in front of mrazek and a big reason for that is because of his ability to handle the puck and they just have more confidence in him (in the shootout as well). So yes the team probably would have gotten more shots on net.

I don't care how well Howard played, he didn't win. He has an ability to find ways to not win. He gets paid 5 million dollars to leave his legs wide open in the shootout every single time. Maybe he should practice that while mrazek starts to get more starts.

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I don't care how well Howard played, he didn't win. He has an ability to find ways to not win. He gets paid 5 million dollars to leave his legs wide open in the shootout every single time. Maybe he should practice that while mrazek starts to get more starts.

Mrazek's has only one more win than Jimmy does. He also happens to have one more loss than Jimmy does. So the whole "one can win so he is better" argument goes out the window as of now.

Sigh.. now I'm starting to defend Howard. Again.

Let's just say that Jimmy is terrible in the S/O. And his contract isn't worth it if we're getting a similar performance from his "backup".

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Mrazek's has only one more win than Jimmy does. He also happens to have one more loss than Jimmy does. So the whole "one can win so he is better" argument goes out the window as of now.

Sigh.. now I'm starting to defend Howard. Again.

Let's just say that Jimmy is terrible in the S/O. And his contract isn't worth it if we're getting a similar performance from his "backup".

Let's just agree that jimmy will never be a big time goalie. Since he took over for ozzie I have never felt that he could ever take our team all the way. Even with lidstrom and Rafi jimmy couldn't get us past the 2nd round. Jimmy is average and way over priced. With mrazek I think most of us agree we feel he can lead this team to new highs in the playoffs. He needs to start getting more starts and we should package jimmy up while he has value.

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As yes, the Gustavsson principle.

Are you saying last night Mrazek would have let in 4 goals but his clutchness and intangibles would have willed the Wings offense to score more on the few shots they took?

I think most here at LGW (myself included) feel it's 'game over' if there's a shoot-out, and Howard's in net.

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I love how Howard helps get the team a point but the focus is that he didn't get the extra point because he is bad at a gimmick.

Also, keep in mind that Mrazek hasn't exactly lit up the sky recently (two games in a row with a sub-.900 save percentage), so I don't understand why people are so excited to go right back to him. He should have a bounce-back game, but I also thought he was going to have a bounce-back game against Nashville.

You're on the wrong forum if you don't want to trash Howard at every opportunity and love Mrazek unconditionally. Get with the program. Mrazek gooood! Howard baaaad!

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You're on the wrong forum if you don't want to trash Howard at every opportunity and love Mrazek unconditionally. Get with the program. Mrazek gooood! Howard baaaad!

Give him a break. Doc hasn't been around for a bit. He's gotta get re-acclimated with current protocols. :D

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Perhaps you are forgetting the first 2 games mrazek played against the caps. He plays very well against them and should have played. The team plays better in front of mrazek and a big reason for that is because of his ability to handle the puck and they just have more confidence in him (in the shootout as well). So yes the team probably would have gotten more shots on net.

I don't care how well Howard played, he didn't win. He has an ability to find ways to not win. He gets paid 5 million dollars to leave his legs wide open in the shootout every single time. Maybe he should practice that while mrazek starts to get more starts.

Getting a win is a team thing, it's not solely the goaltender's fault. Howard allowed 2 goals, that should be enough to win most games in this league. Both our goalies are playing well, Mrazek has faced far more shots on average and as a result has a worse GAA overall. Mrazek is certainly the future but he and Howard are on par with each other at this point in time, at least the way I see it.

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