roboturner 562 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) http://detroitsportsnation.com/detroit-nhl/mwhitaker/red-wings-re-sign-goalie-jared-coreau/76535/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Good sigining for GR. And a Northern Michigan Wildcat alum!! Edit: 2 years with a cap hit of $612,500 Edited July 6, 2016 by roboturner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpiritFan 37 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) So they just signed Eddie Pasquale as well... so is it Coreau & Paterson in GR & Pasquale in Toledo, or Coreau & Pasquale in Grand Rapids & Paterson in Toledo? I thought I saw that they had no intention of bringing back McCollum. Fun tidbit, both Pasquale & Paterson are former studs from the Saginaw Spirit (OHL). Edited July 7, 2016 by SpiritFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FifeHockeyNut 57 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 So they just signed Eddie Pasquale as well... so is it Coreau & Paterson in GR & Pasquale in Toledo, or Coreau & Pasquale in Grand Rapids & Paterson in Toledo? I thought I saw that they had no intention of bringing back McCollum. Fun tidbit, both Pasquale & Paterson are former studs from the Saginaw Spirit (OHL). Read somewhere that Paterson will be given chance to make Griffins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 Like any position in training camp, Paterson and Pasquale will battle it out for the number 2 spot behind Coreau. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 the 2nd year of the Coreau deal is a 1 way 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,129 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 Trade jimmy.... 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrazekFanBoy 223 Report post Posted July 10, 2016 Holland expects Vegas to take Jimmy in the expansion draft... Who the hell would pick him out of all the goalies who will be available either that or he's buying jimmy out next year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,129 Report post Posted July 10, 2016 Ya, I'm not sure why Holland thinks that Jimmy is so valuable that he won't trade him and he feels he'll get snagged off the expansion wire. I wouldn't be surprised if he traded Mrazek just so he could protect Jimmy. 1 skerrydude reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted July 10, 2016 Ya, I'm not sure why Holland thinks that Jimmy is so valuable that he won't trade him and he feels he'll get snagged off the expansion wire. I wouldn't be surprised if he traded Mrazek just so he could protect Jimmy. Or.... more likely no one wants Jimmy? 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,129 Report post Posted July 11, 2016 If he doesn't get claimed, he's going to have to be bought out. Too bad we're stuck with what seems is going to be $10M in goalies and a couple other $4M contracts that are a waste of roster spots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacksoni 418 Report post Posted July 11, 2016 Or.... more likely no one wants Jimmy? A lot of teams like Jimmy. For half price or possibly 75% of his salary if injuries are rampant. That's what it'll come down to next season if he doesn't get picked up by the Las Vegas "something". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted July 11, 2016 Barring any season ending injury to a starter in the league this season, Holland is stuck with Howard. I thought Calgary and MAYBE Toronto would take a chance on him, but they got Elliott(which was a surprise move) and Andersen (who they resigned for 5 years) respectively for much cheaper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted July 17, 2016 Barring any season ending injury to a starter in the league this season, Holland is stuck with Howard. I thought Calgary and MAYBE Toronto would take a chance on him, but they got Elliott(which was a surprise move) and Andersen (who they resigned for 5 years) respectively for much cheaper. If I were the Leafs I would definitely want Anderson over Howard, but I wouldn't say he is "much" cheaper. Anderson's caphit is 5million per year, Howard's is 5.3. Elliot is much cheaper though, but he is also a UFA in 1 year. 2 roboturner and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 If I were the Leafs I would definitely want Anderson over Howard, but I wouldn't say he is "much" cheaper. Anderson's caphit is 5million per year, Howard's is 5.3. Elliot is much cheaper though, but he is also a UFA in 1 year. I though Andersen signed for less than that. My bad. That's overpayment, but the Leafs like doing that. Look at the Martin deal. lol Elliott is due for a new contract soon, but I don't think he'll get $5 million. He's soild when he's on his game, but he won't win you a cup. St. Louis traded him for almost nothing even though he took them to the Conference Final because they wanted to get rid of him and move in a different direction. That says alot. Toronto traded Bernier to Anaheim in a completely different deal for a draft pick. Weird. lol 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,129 Report post Posted July 20, 2016 It'll be funny if Coreau is claimed off waivers. at Holland for his "loyalty" to players that were never that good to begin with! I don't understand how he can just cast aside young players with a better upside for the likes of players like helm, miller, Ericsson, howard. The same crap we've lost with the last 4-8 years...oh well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted July 20, 2016 It'll be funny if Coreau is claimed off waivers. at Holland for his "loyalty" to players that were never that good to begin with! I don't understand how he can just cast aside young players with a better upside for the likes of players like helm, miller, Ericsson, howard. The same crap we've lost with the last 4-8 years...oh well! We haven't lost anyone of significance due to waivers. I know you have complained about Nestrasil being lost, and you always talk about Jensen possibly being put on waivers, but players like this have no value and are put on waivers every single year by every team. You can't give every young kid a chance, some just arent good enough, or are a dime a dozen. I would much rather have a Helm who you listed then a random young guy or Nestrasil. Some guys definitely are left down too long, but some guys are brought up to quickly (Jurco), hindsight is always 20/20. You take out Howard and E, and our contract situation IMO is fine. If those 2 contracts didn't exist, I don't think people would even be talking about the Helm contract. 2 amato and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roboturner 562 Report post Posted July 21, 2016 We haven't lost anyone of significance due to waivers. I know you have complained about Nestrasil being lost, and you always talk about Jensen possibly being put on waivers, but players like this have no value and are put on waivers every single year by every team. You can't give every young kid a chance, some just arent good enough, or are a dime a dozen. I would much rather have a Helm who you listed then a random young guy or Nestrasil. Some guys definitely are left down too long, but some guys are brought up to quickly (Jurco), hindsight is always 20/20. We draft Quincy late in the 4th round. We spend 3 years developing him in Grand Rapids (He play in 13 games for the Wings during that time). Then... when he's out of options, we lose Quincy to waivers (While keeping Derek Meech and Brett Lebda). Fine, whatever. As you said guys get put on waivers all the time. But the story doesn't end there. The Kings pick him up off waivers and that same season he led their team's defense in scoring. He does well for Colorado too. Then... He gets traded to Steve Yzerman and the Lightning. Moments later, Yzerman traded Quincy to Detroit (who originally lost him for nothing through waivers) for.....A 1st round draft pick! Losing him to waivers (and then getting him back on the team) cost us a 4th round pick, 3 years of development AND a 1st round pick. Losing a 4th rounder and 3 years development sucks Losing a 4th rounder and 3 years development sucks when you keep Derek Meech and Brett Lebda on top of it. Losing a 4th rounder and 3 years development sucks when you keep Derek Meech and Brett Lebda on top of it, and then on top of that have to spend a 1st rounder to get the 4th rounder back! Suffice it to say I'm a little worried about Hollands ability to make the right decision about who gets waived and who stays on the team (for now). Of course all that could have been avoided if the Wings didn't bury guys in the minors and wait til 5 guys all lose their waiver eligibility at the same time to make a decision. I know hindsight is 20/20 but this kind of incompetence really pisses me off You take out Howard and E, and our contract situation IMO is fine. If those 2 contracts didn't exist, I don't think people would even be talking about the Helm contract. I was gonna say something about this and now I don't remember what it was.... 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted July 21, 2016 We draft Quincy late in the 4th round. We spend 3 years developing him in Grand Rapids (He play in 13 games for the Wings during that time). Then... when he's out of options, we lose Quincy to waivers (While keeping Derek Meech and Brett Lebda). Fine, whatever. As you said guys get put on waivers all the time. But the story doesn't end there. The Kings pick him up off waivers and that same season he led their team's defense in scoring. He does well for Colorado too. Then... He gets traded to Steve Yzerman and the Lightning. Moments later, Yzerman traded Quincy to Detroit (who originally lost him for nothing through waivers) for.....A 1st round draft pick! Losing him to waivers (and then getting him back on the team) cost us a 4th round pick, 3 years of development AND a 1st round pick. Losing a 4th rounder and 3 years development sucks Losing a 4th rounder and 3 years development sucks when you keep Derek Meech and Brett Lebda on top of it. Losing a 4th rounder and 3 years development sucks when you keep Derek Meech and Brett Lebda on top of it, and then on top of that have to spend a 1st rounder to get the 4th rounder back! Suffice it to say I'm a little worried about Hollands ability to make the right decision about who gets waived and who stays on the team (for now). Of course all that could have been avoided if the Wings didn't bury guys in the minors and wait til 5 guys all lose their waiver eligibility at the same time to make a decision. I know hindsight is 20/20 but this kind of incompetence really pisses me off I was gonna say something about this and now I don't remember what it was.... I'm not going to defend the Quincey situation, that was definitely a black eye for the organziation, but that one player (I did forget about him). My point is more so about when guys like Nestrasil or Jensen get put on waivers and people act like its a big deal when its not. 2 krsmith17 and roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roboturner 562 Report post Posted July 21, 2016 I'm not going to defend the Quincey situation, that was definitely a black eye for the organziation, but that one player (I did forget about him). My point is more so about when guys like Nestrasil or Jensen get put on waivers and people act like its a big deal when its not. Right on. It just seems like we're in the same situation again where we might end up losing a "Kyle Quincy" and keeping the "Derek Meech" of the group. But yeah for the most part, our loses through waivers have been very minor. Some guys I'm sure it'd have been nice to keep them, especially when you see they are doing well for whoever picked them up, but they weren't going to get a chance to play here anyway if they couldn't make the roster (Though who the Wings have decided to keep on their final roster in recent years has been a head-scratcher when you've got guys ready to step in and continue their development) 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites