Conflict in the Crease

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

1 hour ago, chaps80 said:

In Vegas.

Hate to break it to you but vegas will have better options than howard or mrazek

[chaps80 1,591]

Just now, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Hate to break it to you but vegas will have better options than howard or mrazek

Yeah, most likely. They're gonna be solid in goal right from the start with all the great goalies in the league these days and each team only able to protect one.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

6 minutes ago, chaps80 said:

Yeah, most likely. They're gonna be solid in goal right from the start with all the great goalies in the league these days and each team only able to protect one.

Would it surprise anyone if 0 wings are selected by vegas?

[kickazz 5,459]

1 minute ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Would it surprise anyone if 0 wings are selected by vegas?

Doesn't at least 1 player get selected?

[chaps80 1,591]

9 minutes ago, kickazz said:

Doesn't at least 1 player get selected?

Yep. Only 1 each from all 30.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

really? They have to take 1 from each? Wow didnt realize this

[kickazz 5,459]

Just going to put this out there...

Anybody else feel like getting rid of a goalie coach as good as Jim Bedard and promiting an AHL goalie coach ended up screwing Mrazek over this season? 

[DickieDunn 2,571]

They did that specifically for Mrazek because they worked so well together in GR.  And it's not like Bedard did spectacular work.

[kliq 3,755]

44 minutes ago, kickazz said:

Just going to put this out there...

Anybody else feel like getting rid of a goalie coach as good as Jim Bedard and promiting an AHL goalie coach ended up screwing Mrazek over this season? 

Very possible, maybe the AHL guy knew the AHL really well, but his methods just don't work in the NHL. Then again, look at Howard, he's playing the best hockey of his career. Who knows. My worry about Mrazek is that the scouting report is out on him now and teams are learning his weakness and he is not adapting well.

[kickazz 5,459]

If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Mrazek was fine with Bedard. I just don't see how the new coach has been beneficial. Like was the move ultimately a good one? Either way, we'll see what happens. 

[kliq 3,755]

3 minutes ago, kickazz said:

If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Mrazek was fine with Bedard. I just don't see how the new coach has been beneficial. Like was the move ultimately a good one? Either way, we'll see what happens. 

To be fair though, his regression started the day he turned 24. I'm not sure either coach is to blame. I definitely see what you are saying though, and you make a very valid point.

[kickazz 5,459]

That's got to be one of his worst birthdays ever and is still probably haunting him seeing as though we still have a conflict in the crease since that day. 

[Jacksoni 418]

10 hours ago, kickazz said:

That's got to be one of his worst birthdays ever and is still probably haunting him seeing as though we still have a conflict in the crease since that day. 

Yeah. Weird this. It sure looks like he has regressed. Alarming, considering this teams long-term plans. Late last year I was projecting him as a possible great wall reminiscent of Hasek or Price in 5 years.

If anything, this seems to be the season to regress in the last 26 years. Not saying I like it of course. Hopefully he will get his act together. We need it, if not for this year certainly for the very near future.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Mrazek was fine with Bedard. I just don't see how the new coach has been beneficial. Like was the move ultimately a good one? Either way, we'll see what happens. 

He was fine until February.

Maybe the team took him out boozing and he decided he likes it too much. It's weird that he's been crap since then.

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[FireCaptain 563]

On 12/1/2016 at 10:39 PM, roboturner said:

That being said, they're both still here. Jimmy is playing really well and it appears he actually put in some work and can handle the puck now. Petr looks to be on the upswing here again while Jimmy is out. They are both here right now; there is no reason to not take advantage of it.

Define UPSWING??

 

2012-13	Grand Rapids Griffins	AHL	42	2	17	2498	97	4	1	2.33	23	16	2	1053	0.916	24	0	2
2012-13	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	2	0	0	119	4	0	0	2.02	1	1	0	47	0.922	-	-	-
2013-14	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	9	0	0	449	13	0	2	1.74	2	4	0	165	0.927	-	-	-
2013-14	Grand Rapids Griffins	AHL	32	2	2	1830	64	3	3	2.10	22	9	1	774	0.924	10	0	0
2014-15	Grand Rapids Griffins	AHL	13	1	6	757	26	1	3	2.06	9	2	1	331	0.927	-	-	-
2014-15	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	29	0	0	1585	63	2	3	2.38	16	9	2	705	0.918	7	0	0
2015-16	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	54	2	2	2942	115	6	4	2.33	27	16	6	1333	0.921	3	0	0
2016-17	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	21	0	2	1130	59	0	0	3.11	9	8	3	508	0.896

[Jacksoni 418]

As your graph shows it is a statistically significant regression. Sample size is satisfactory.

Thing is, why?

[Echolalia 2,961]

Coreau was in the starter's net at practice on Wednesday. 

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2016/12/red_wings_jared_coreau_would_r.html#incart_river_mobile_index

 

[roboturner 562]

19 hours ago, FireCaptain said:

Define UPSWING??

 

2012-13	Grand Rapids Griffins	AHL	42	2	17	2498	97	4	1	2.33	23	16	2	1053	0.916	24	0	2
2012-13	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	2	0	0	119	4	0	0	2.02	1	1	0	47	0.922	-	-	-
2013-14	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	9	0	0	449	13	0	2	1.74	2	4	0	165	0.927	-	-	-
2013-14	Grand Rapids Griffins	AHL	32	2	2	1830	64	3	3	2.10	22	9	1	774	0.924	10	0	0
2014-15	Grand Rapids Griffins	AHL	13	1	6	757	26	1	3	2.06	9	2	1	331	0.927	-	-	-
2014-15	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	29	0	0	1585	63	2	3	2.38	16	9	2	705	0.918	7	0	0
2015-16	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	54	2	2	2942	115	6	4	2.33	27	16	6	1333	0.921	3	0	0
2016-17	Detroit Red Wings	NHL	21	0	2	1130	59	0	0	3.11	9	8	3	508	0.896

Well I can't figure out how to get rid of this goddamn chart. Frankly I don't know why you are bringing up season stats for his entire career anyway. I thought it would be obvious that I was talking about his recent play (recent being around the time I made that post, which was a month ago...).

Edited December 29, 2016 by roboturner

[MabusIncarnate 5,344]

2 hours ago, roboturner said:

Well I can't figure out how to get rid of this goddamn chart. Frankly I don't know why you are bringing up season stats for his entire career anyway. I thought it would be obvious that I was talking about his recent play (recent being around the time I made that post, which was a month ago...).

I've found that quoting something on the new site format and attempting to delete it doesn't work well, it's something i'll bring up to Matt as i'm having the same issue. 

Daily faceoff now has Coreau listed as "Confirmed" to start in net tonight. I may be completely off base here, but say Coreau strings together some good starts and a few wins, would the Wings even consider sending Mrazek down in favor of a healthy Howard when he returns? The starts Coreau is receiving with Howard down is starting to tell a story about where their confidence levels with Mrazek currently stand. 

I know it's a long shot, but still.

[HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878]

32 minutes ago, MabusIncarnate said:

I've found that quoting something on the new site format and attempting to delete it doesn't work well, it's something i'll bring up to Matt as i'm having the same issue. 

Daily faceoff now has Coreau listed as "Confirmed" to start in net tonight. I may be completely off base here, but say Coreau strings together some good starts and a few wins, would the Wings even consider sending Mrazek down in favor of a healthy Howard when he returns? The starts Coreau is receiving with Howard down is starting to tell a story about where their confidence levels with Mrazek currently stand. 

I know it's a long shot, but still.

I was thinking the same thing. He looked pretty good in his first start and with family at the game, I think he could do great tonight again. Although, we couldn't get that lucky. 

[kickazz 5,459]

I just don't see them sending a $4 million goalie down. But who knows

Edited December 29, 2016 by kickazz

[wings_fanatic 677]

1 hour ago, kickazz said:

I just don't see them sending a $4 million goalie down. But who knows

Not to mention he would get claimed... No way do they do that. Mrazek has a ton of potential. They arent going to give that up because hes having a down year. Frick they still have howard after all his years of being bad. 

[kickazz 5,459]

40 minutes ago, wings_fanatic said:

Not to mention he would get claimed... No way do they do that. Mrazek has a ton of potential. They arent going to give that up because hes having a down year. Frick they still have howard after all his years of being bad. 

Thank god you finally admit to Mrazek having a down year... 

And you're right, he would definitely get claimed if it came down to exposing him and I'm not sure if they would risk that. 

Edited December 29, 2016 by kickazz

[wings_fanatic 677]

What they need to do is just move the vets- including jimmy. Be sellers at the deadline and go with mrazek and coreau. Play the kids, finish near last in the standings and get a good pick. Thats how we need to rebuild rather than make the mistake the leafs made for 10 years.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

No way they send down Mrazek. Just ride Howard when he returns while Mraz rides the pine. let Coreau go down, then trade Mraz at the deadline or the draft and bring Coreau back up if the wings really wanna go with coreau now.

1 minute ago, wings_fanatic said:

What they need to do is just move the vets- including jimmy. Be sellers at the deadline and go with mrazek and coreau. Play the kids, finish near last in the standings and get a good pick. Thats how we need to rebuild rather than make the mistake the leafs made for 10 years.

Howard has a mntc and is the better goalie. Very unlikely he gets traded

Edited December 29, 2016 by ChristopherReevesLegs