HoweFan 74 Report post Posted April 5, 2018 It looks like we are drafting sixth at this point disregarding the lottery. It looks like we have the possibility of passing the Hawks and Oilers. We might tie the Islanders. It makes no sense to pass these teams. I'm not a fan of tanking but drafting ninth instead of sixth is ludicrous. Doesn't it make sense to sit some guys and call up prospects for the last two games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) https://www.nhl.com/standings/2017/league Can't pass the Islanders, as they'd win the ROW tiebreaker no matter what. The Blackhawks won tonight, so now we can't pass them either, because they'd win the ROW tiebreaker no matter what. If the Oilers get two more points, we won't be able to pass them, because they'd win the ROW tiebreaker no matter what. So, we can finish 29th / 3rd-worst, 28th / 4th-worst, 27th / 5th-worst, 26th / 6th-worst (our current position), or 25th / 7th-worst (the Oilers' current position). (This, of course, doesn't factor in the potential 1-3-position slide in the final lottery order.) We're currently three points away from the 29th / 3rd-worst Habs. They have two games left: one against us and one against the Leafs. We're currently three points away from the 28th / 4th-worst Coyotes. They have two games left: Canucks and Ducks. We're currently two points away from the 27th / 5th-worst Canucks, and they'd win the ROW tiebreaker no matter what. They have two games left: Coyotes and Oilers. Should be an interesting finish. Edited April 5, 2018 by Dabura 2 krsmith17 and Son of a Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 628 Report post Posted April 5, 2018 Of course. Now that Ottawa is guaranteed to finish lower than the Wings, they win. They also faced the worst team in the league so I guess there's that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,965 Report post Posted April 5, 2018 Ottawa finishing lower than us is a win-win. We may still get a spot above them in the lottery, plus we have their 2nd so it'll be a better pick as well. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoweFan 74 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Thanks for clearing it up for me. I wasn't sure what the tie breaker was. Montreal is beating us 1-0 right now so maybe our position will improve even more 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Fingers crossed that we lose our last game and the Yotes and Habs win theirs. Be great if the Leafs and Ducks take their last game off to rest for the playoffs. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Last night was very good for the tank. https://www.nhl.com/standings/2017/league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dabura said: Last night was very good for the tank. https://www.nhl.com/standings/2017/league Seeing this just makes that small winning streak we had a real bummer lol 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, marcaractac said: Seeing this just makes that small winning streak we had a real bummer lol srsly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,965 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Well, as of today we are 5th, after tomorrow's games, we can finish 4, 5 or 6. We need to lose, Montreal needs to win for us to move up to 4. If we win and Vancouver loses, we're 6th. If we all win, we stay 5th. I think we look good at 5. I just hope we don't drop in the lottery results. 5 Looks like a VERY solid NHL player as long as Holland stays within the ranked players and doesn't pull a Joe Murphy over Jimmy Carson! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Well, as of today we are 5th, after tomorrow's games, we can finish 4, 5 or 6. We need to lose, Montreal needs to win for us to move up to 4. If we win and Vancouver loses, we're 6th. If we all win, we stay 5th. I think we look good at 5. I just hope we don't drop in the lottery results. 5 Looks like a VERY solid NHL player as long as Holland stays within the ranked players and doesn't pull a Joe Murphy over Jimmy Carson! We could also finish third last if we get a perfect storm in the three applicable games 2 LeftWinger and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,965 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, marcaractac said: We could also finish third last if we get a perfect storm in the three applicable games Ya, you're right! Arizona has us in ROW's! Bonus! 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Well, as of today we are 5th, after tomorrow's games, we can finish 4, 5 or 6. We need to lose, Montreal needs to win for us to move up to 4. If we win and Vancouver loses, we're 6th. If we all win, we stay 5th. I think we look good at 5. I just hope we don't drop in the lottery results. 5 Looks like a VERY solid NHL player as long as Holland stays within the ranked players and doesn't pull a Joe Murphy over Jimmy Carson! I'd rather have had Brian Leetch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,965 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, barabbas16 said: I'd rather have had Brian Leetch. In hindsight ya, but on the day of the draft Carson was supposed to be the hands down top pick. If was a bit of a shocker that they didn't draft him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 2 hours ago, marcaractac said: We could also finish third last if we get a perfect storm in the three applicable games 2 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Ya, you're right! Arizona has us in ROW's! Bonus! We need to lose our last game, Van and ARI to win and for MTL to pick up at least a point. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 33 minutes ago, e_prime said: We need to lose our last game, Van and ARI to win and for MTL to pick up at least a point. If we lose, I don't think we need Vancouver to lose. The rest of it, yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Remember when we used to talk about wins and losses in regards to who our first round opponent would be? Good times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 2 hours ago, barabbas16 said: If we lose, I don't think we need Vancouver to lose. The rest of it, yeah. Yep. We're tied with VAN in points and we can't catch them in the ROW department. Nor can we catch MTL or ARI in the ROW department. Wings regulation loss + ARI win of any kind + MTL OT/SO loss or win of any kind = Wings finish 29th / 3rd-worst, first pick lands somewhere in the 1st-6th overall range. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 If Mrazek wins tonight our 4th becomes a 3rd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: If Mrazek wins tonight our 4th becomes a 3rd? They pay tomorrow afternoon, hosting the Rangers. All they need is a point to clinch a postseason berth and turn that 4th into a 3rd. Brain Elliott's starting, but Mrazek's already won the number of games he needed to win for the 4th->3rd upgrade. 2 e_prime and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 One point gained by the Flyers or one point lost by the Panthers and the 4th becomes a 3rd. Florida play the Sabres at home tomorrow, and the Bruins in Boston on Sunday. I really hope the Flyers beat the Rangers tomorrow though, so we don't have to worry about the last game on Sunday (assuming Florida beat Buffalo)... 3 Dabura, e_prime and kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 16 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Remember when we used to talk about wins and losses in regards to who our first round opponent would be? Good times. Of course, but I also do remember that for the last few years it's been us talking about who will that opponent be in the first round that bounces us. Not to say that there isn't always a chance once you get in, but right now -- I'm focusing on our chances for a top pick and for other teams to make our conditional picks even better. 2 Dabura and kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) Am I right in assuming the best we can finish draft wise is 5th, with a Canucks win tonight? I only looked briefly, but right now it looks like a real shame that we squeezed a point out of that Isles game. From my point of view it was worst case scenario, I would've rather we just won the game. Edited April 8, 2018 by Wheelchairsuperhero Grammar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 8, 2018 Just now, Wheelchairsuperhero said: Am I right in assuming the best we can finish draft wise is 5th, with a Canucks win tonight? I only looked briefly, but right now it looks like a real shame that we squeezed a point out of that Isles game. From my point of view it was worst case scenario, I would've rather we just won the game. Lowest we can finish now is 5th-worst, with a Canucks OT/SO loss or win of any kind. What amazes me is that three teams in our division are going to finish lower than us. 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,965 Report post Posted April 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dabura said: Lowest we can finish now is 5th-worst, with a Canucks OT/SO loss or win of any kind. What amazes me is that three teams in our division are going to finish lower than us. Ya, so instead of possibly having Dahlin, we may have to face him 8 times a year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites