Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Let me tell you why you're wrong... Holland gives special treatment to Michigan boys. The only reason Hughes is ranked this high is because he's from Michigan. Michigan boys are always overrated in the draft by all teams. Stupid Michigan. Holland would rather have a Michigan team than a good team. What we need is more Western Canadians on this team. Specifically, boys from BC or Alberta. Men from these regions are genetically predisposed to playing a gritty more physical style of hockey, which I'm sure Mackel would agree, we need. I went to Canada once. It was weird. 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Dabura said: I went to Canada once. It was weird. Is Luke Witkowski even Canadian? 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 682 Report post Posted May 3, 2018 47 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Let me tell you why you're wrong... Holland gives special treatment to Michigan boys. The only reason Hughes is ranked this high is because he's from Michigan. Michigan boys are always overrated in the draft by all teams. Stupid Michigan. Holland would rather have a Michigan team than a good team. What we need is more Western Canadians on this team. Specifically, boys from BC or Alberta. Men from these regions are genetically predisposed to playing a gritty more physical style of hockey, which I'm sure Mackel would agree, we need. I see you're back to the usual shtick... what we need is to draft the better player and all of the available data suggest's it's not Hughes. Picking him would strongly imply a Michigan bias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, mackel said: I see you're back to the usual shtick... what we need is to draft the better player and all of the available data suggest's it's not Hughes. Picking him would strongly imply a Michigan bias. I agree, picking the #7 ranked player at #6 is just foolish. Holland needs to put his bias aside. He's got a hard-on for U of M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, mackel said: ... what we need is to draft the better player and all of the available data suggest's it's not Hughes. Picking him would strongly imply a Michigan bias. Nope. Several rankings list Hughes ahead of some or all of the other 2nd-tier defenders. "All the available data" doesn't say anything particularly conclusive, and there are good reasons to value all four of those kids (as well as the few top wingers who will be available). Also, considering that Holland has only ever drafted two Michigan natives, and only a few more from (or committed to) Michigan schools, assuming any kind of Michigan bias would be foolish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 7 hours ago, mackel said: I think Bouchard projects better defensively than Shattenkirk. Also I don't think he's as soft as puppy poo like Shatty. Stop feeding Fido butter. Problem solved. P.s. ur right about Shattdeuces. 6 hours ago, Dabura said: I went to Canada once. It was weird. Only Quebec. The rest is pretty cool. Cold...but not so different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 6 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Is Luke Witkowski even Canadian? Obviously he's Polish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, puckbags said: You don't have to be an expert these days to know that an 18 year old kid who has had 2 concussions is now considered high risk to get more. It's open knowledge for everyone. Stop sounding like Roger Goodell. I don't claim to be an expert by any means. Hell I coach minor hockey but we are required to take concussion courses before the season starts and all the information is laid out right there for us. Even with 9 and 10 year old kids we don't mess around with it. If we think they rang their bell we keep them off the ice, they go to the clinic and if a doctor even remotely thinks the kid has symptoms hes out a minimum 2 weeks and then reassessed. For the sake of Boqvist I obviously hope he doesn't have concussions issues and wherever he plays whether it's Detroit or somewhere else I hope he has a long healthy career. That being said I take Hughes or Bouchard over him at this point. True. But you do need to be an expert to understand the severity of his condition and to be able to judge the prognosis of it. And more importantly, to be able to judge whether or not his condition warrants passing on him. Having a layman's knowledge of concussions and brain trauma isn't enough to decide that IMO. The only place I am seeing any concerns are from fans posting them in forums like this one. I tried searching for articles regarding his condition and any concerns that scouts, analysts, GMs may have with it and couldn't find any. I am not writing the kid off just because of whats being said here, reddit, or hf boards. Especially when those who are more knowledgeable of the situation, and are taking all the risk, aren't. I would be happy with any of the D being mentioned as possibilities, including Boqvist. If you avoid drafting, signing, re-signing, or trading for any player with a concussion history, you're going to have a very short list of players to choose from. Edited May 4, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: True. But you do need to be an expert to understand the severity of his condition and to be able to judge the prognosis of it. And more importantly, to be able to judge whether or not his condition warrants passing on him. Having a layman's knowledge of concussions and brain trauma isn't enough to decide that IMO. The only place I am seeing any concerns are from fans posting them in forums like this one. I tried searching for articles regarding his condition and any concerns that scouts, analysts, GMs may have with it and couldn't find any. I am not writing the kid off just because of whats being said here, reddit, or hf boards. Especially when those who are more knowledgeable of the situation, and are taking all the risk, aren't. I would be happy with any of the D being mentioned as possibilities, including Boqvist. If you avoid drafting, signing, re-signing, or trading for any player with a concussion history, you're going to have a very short list of players to choose from. If Franzen wasn't a thing, we wouldn't be talking about it 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 15 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Dahlin Dobson Bouchard Hughes Bernard-Docker Wilde Boqvist Alexeyev Samuelsson Merkley That was the list I turned in. In that order. Well, you have Dahlin in the right spot. But beyond that, ohhhh boy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: That's why I am where I am and you are not! I'm not so sure anyone wants to be where you are to be completely honest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,964 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 What's wrong with his list? He is just ranking D-men. Those top 4-5 look pretty spot on. With the concussion issues, Boqvist still in top 10, don't see any problems. ...and who's to say he's not a scout, nobody knows. Not everyone can be a professional internet troll. You're a very tough act to follow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: What's wrong with his list? He is just ranking D-men. Those top 4-5 look pretty spot on. With the concussion issues, Boqvist still in top 10, don't see any problems. ...and who's to say he's not a scout, nobody knows. Not everyone can be a professional internet troll. You're a very tough act to follow. I'm an assistant general manager Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: I'm an assistant general manager Starbucks doesn't count. Edited May 4, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Starbucks doesn't count. Here at Starbucks we like our coffee like we like our patrons: Not black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,964 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 Whoa...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Whoa...... Oh what are you gonna be a "sensitive snowflake" now too? Jokes are just jokes remember? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoveMyRedWings56 73 Report post Posted May 4, 2018 Not the least bit interested in Adam Boqvist, That concussion already concerns me. I'd much rather have either Evan Bouchard or Noah Dobson. Preferably Noah Dobson he's the complete package. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,964 Report post Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Oh what are you gonna be a "sensitive snowflake" now too? Jokes are just jokes remember? Did i say anything but "whoa.." But, ya, I forgot the recent news, now I get it! Edited May 5, 2018 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Here at Starbucks we like our coffee like we like our patrons: Not black That's true. Not too many uppity, hipster, snowflake, millenial african-americans out there, so probably pointless. Edited May 5, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted May 6, 2018 The only way I'd draft him is if he was head and shoulders better than anyone else on the board. Those concussions are a major red flag. 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted May 8, 2018 On 5/6/2018 at 2:42 PM, DickieDunn said: The only way I'd draft him is if he was head and shoulders better than anyone else on the board. Those concussions are a major red flag. I don't think he'll be their when we pick. Even if he is, I think Holland picks Hughes or Bouchard anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,964 Report post Posted May 8, 2018 I'm just going to say, for the record, I have NOT been able to find any information about him having concussions. I thought someone said it was on his Elite Prospects page. I didn't see it there, nor have I found anything else. I even listened to a Craig Button interview from a few days ago, and he didn't say anything about concussions. Although he says he is not in the same class as Hughes, Dobson and Bouchard. He has some criticism for him too. Pretty much saying that those three have separated themselves from Boqvist. He has Arizona taking Hughes, Detroit taking Bouchard and Vancouver taking Dobson, but says those guys can go at any of those spots and it wouldn't matter. But definitely feels they are all better than Boqvist. https://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040/button-don-t-feel-boqvist-is-in-same-class-as-hughes-dobson-bouchard-1.1073407 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted May 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: I'm just going to say, for the record, I have NOT been able to find any information about him having concussions. I thought someone said it was on his Elite Prospects page. I didn't see it there, nor have I found anything else. I even listened to a Craig Button interview from a few days ago, and he didn't say anything about concussions. Although he says he is not in the same class as Hughes, Dobson and Bouchard. He has some criticism for him too. Pretty much saying that those three have separated themselves from Boqvist. He has Arizona taking Hughes, Detroit taking Bouchard and Vancouver taking Dobson, but says those guys can go at any of those spots and it wouldn't matter. But definitely feels they are all better than Boqvist. https://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040/button-don-t-feel-boqvist-is-in-same-class-as-hughes-dobson-bouchard-1.1073407 A lot of people are projecting the Wings to take Bouchard. I really, really, REALLY hope we get him at 6... 4 Wheelchairsuperhero, LeftWinger, F.Michael and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted May 9, 2018 Bouchard or Hughes, I hope. Bouchard seems like he could step right in, but Hughes would need another season of college and maybe a little GR time... anyone else have any insights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites