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Andreas Athanasiou Officially Signed 2 yrs. $3M AAV

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2 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

AZZ. You would love that wouldn't you.

I will take your word for it. You're the expert.

Sorry, but Kickazz can bring it when he wants.  He has a hard time with me because I debate on facts as well.  But your little trendy catchphrase arguments are weak. 

 

"Zetterberg says no poke and hope.  Athanasiou is who he is talking about.  I just know it.  I gotta post that."

 

Meanwhile, Zetterberg is also 2 years a LIAR on his "not on my watch" shtick and the team is a straight dumpster fire.  So who really gives a damn how he thinks other players should be playing?

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2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Sorry, but Kickazz can bring it when he wants.  He has a hard time with me because I debate on facts as well.  But your little trendy catchphrase arguments are weak. 

 

"Zetterberg says no poke and hope.  Athanasiou is who he is talking about.  I just know it.  I gotta post that."

 

Meanwhile, Zetterberg is also 2 years a LIAR on his "not on my watch" shtick and the team is a straight dumpster fire.  So who really gives a damn how he thinks other players should be playing?

You're right

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2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Sorry, but Kickazz can bring it when he wants.  He has a hard time with me because I debate on facts as well.  But your little trendy catchphrase arguments are weak. 

 

"Zetterberg says no poke and hope.  Athanasiou is who he is talking about.  I just know it.  I gotta post that."

 

Meanwhile, Zetterberg is also 2 years a LIAR on his "not on my watch" shtick and the team is a straight dumpster fire.  So who really gives a damn how he thinks other players should be playing?

I literally have no idea what you're talking about. I gave stats/facts regarding AA and that was met with "weak argument". I then repeated well known criticisms about AA's game and the response was "you're talking out of your ass." I gave facts. I didnt make any of it up. Its all out there and available to anyone. Its not my fault if you choose to ignore it and dismiss it "cuz Z". Thats not debating, neither is replying "exactly" or "that's how you debate" or "you got pwned". Maybe try actually participating in the discussion instead of jumping onto someone else's posts. I'd be interested to know what you think.

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14 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

I literally have no idea what you're talking about. I gave stats/facts regarding AA and that was met with "weak argument". I then repeated well known criticisms about AA's game and the response was "you're talking out of your ass." I gave facts. I didnt make any of it up. Its all out there and available to anyone. Its not my fault if you choose to ignore it and dismiss it "cuz Z". Thats not debating, neither is replying "exactly" or "that's how you debate" or "you got pwned". Maybe try actually participating in the discussion instead of jumping onto someone else's posts. I'd be interested to know what you think.

Yur right

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2 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

I then repeated well known criticisms about AA's game...

Yah, and this is where you fail.  The same coach that criticized AA for his practice participation (are you kidding me, Jeff?) also coached the team to the garbage heap.  He needs to worry more about what HE is doing. 

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2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Yah, and this is where you fail.  The same coach that criticized AA for his practice participation (are you kidding me, Jeff?) also coached the team to the garbage heap.  He needs to worry more about what HE is doing. 

Ya, I really thought he was going to be great here.

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3 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Yah, and this is where you fail.  The same coach that criticized AA for his practice participation (are you kidding me, Jeff?) also coached the team to the garbage heap.  He needs to worry more about what HE is doing. 

I agree. Blash has a lot to learn.  He actually pencils AA into the roster.

If I were coaching I'd be healthy scratching that punk night after night until he won me some puck battles. 

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5 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

I agree. Blash has a lot to learn.  He actually pencils AA into the roster.

If I were coaching I'd be healthy scratching that punk night after night until he won me some puck battles. 

Ahhh, That's right.  The only thing that matters in hockey.  Puck battles.  The game's all time best player never won a puck battle in his entire career, but we will focus on that.  Every red wing must go into the corners hard and win puck battles.  Scoring,neutral zone play, and penalty killing be damned!

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26 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Ahhh, That's right.  The only thing that matters in hockey.  Puck battles.  The game's all time best player never won a puck battle in his entire career, but we will focus on that.  Every red wing must go into the corners hard and win puck battles.  Scoring,neutral zone play, and penalty killing be damned!

LOL

Let's compare AA to Gretzky.

He's a winger. He plays the wing. The wing is where the boards are. The boards are sometimes where the puck is. As a player, you are sometimes expected to turn "not having the puck" into "having the puck" and this does not always mean "stand around until someone else gets you the puck". Clearly you have other idea's about: what is hockeys

AA has a 'Jr B' level work ethic and he should be ashamed of himself and I'm on Blashill's side on this one.

 

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2 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

LOL

Let's compare AA to Gretzky.

He's a winger. He plays the wing. The wing is where the boards are. The boards are sometimes where the puck is. As a player, you are sometimes expected to turn "not having the puck" into "having the puck" and this does not always mean "stand around until someone else gets you the puck". Clearly you have other idea's about: what is hockeys

AA has a 'Jr B' level work ethic and he should be ashamed of himself and I'm on Blashill's side on this one.

 

But he is a natural center, so maybe that is why his instincts are to not go into the corners and battle all the time. Maybe that is why he does every so often and loses battles sometimes. He'll get there.

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1 minute ago, LeftWinger said:

But he is a natural center, so maybe that is why his instincts are to not go into the corners and battle all the time. Maybe that is why he does every so often and loses battles sometimes. He'll get there.

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Maybe when he played PeeWee

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16 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

But he is a natural center, so maybe that is why his instincts are to not go into the corners and battle all the time. Maybe that is why he does every so often and loses battles sometimes. He'll get there.

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Oooooo all the hanging around waiting for breakout passes will work great at center

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7 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

 

Odd, I don't see a lot of hanging around center ice doing nothing... I do see a lot of hard earned goals and his lightning quick speed leaving all-star defenders in the dust or looking for their jocks after he fights through them our dekes around them though... Karlsson and Ekblad got owned by AA. Welcome back AA! Glad to have you! Nice to see you! Don't let these haters bring your game down.

That being said, if he were to bring us Trouba, I'd understand the trade.

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5 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Ahhh, That's right.  The only thing that matters in hockey.  Puck battles.  The game's all time best player never won a puck battle in his entire career, but we will focus on that.  Every red wing must go into the corners hard and win puck battles.  Scoring,neutral zone play, and penalty killing be damned!

Actually, that's one of the most underrated things about Gretzky.  He won many puck battles and worked really hard to get into the right positions.  He wasn't some supremely fast, talented player with a hard shot.  

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1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

Odd, I don't see a lot of hanging around center ice doing nothing... I do see a lot of hard earned goals and his lightning quick speed leaving all-star defenders in the dust or looking for their jocks after he fights through them our dekes around them though... Karlsson and Ekblad got owned by AA. Welcome back AA! Glad to have you! Nice to see you! Don't let these haters bring your game down.

That being said, if he were to bring us Trouba, I'd understand the trade.

They don't make highlight videos of players cheating on defense. What did you expect lol?

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3 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

They don't make highlight videos of players cheating on defense. What did you expect lol?

Ya, but if, as you guys say, he just hangs at center ice and waits for a pass before scoring a breakaway goal, we'd have seen some in the video.

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18 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Ya, but if, as you guys say, he just hangs at center ice and waits for a pass before scoring a breakaway goal, we'd have seen some in the video.

That has been a criticism about him for a while now. It comes from coaches, analysts, broadcasters, sports journalists, etc. Let's try not to pretend that all of this is just being made up. If he wasn't doing it, nobody would be talking about it. He does it, and it needs to be corrected.

To be fair, AA doesn't suck. He has the potential to top out as a 2nd line winger IMO.Although I think its more likely he's a middle 6 guy. Like Helm, I don't see him as a natural center, although he may be able to contribute there from time to time. I also believe that he could be a much BETTER player if he would be more willing to listen to coaching and work on playing a more well rounded 200 foot game. I want AA to change his ways because I want him to be a better hockey player, to succeed. We should all want that. My criticism of him is based on the fear that he won't learn and continue to cheat on D, relying almost entirely on his speed to survive. Speed doesn't last forever, and if he doesn't learn to contribute more in other areas, his NHL career may end up being shorter than any of us (AA included) would like it to be.

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2 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Ya, but if, as you guys say, he just hangs at center ice and waits for a pass before scoring a breakaway goal, we'd have seen some in the video.

You're right. AA never cheats on defense. It's an elaborate ruse concocted by fans, scouts, and the media. Ya got us.

1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

That has been a criticism about him for a while now. It comes from coaches, analysts, broadcasters, sports journalists, etc. Let's try not to pretend that all of this is just being made up. If he wasn't doing it, nobody would be talking about it. He does it, and it needs to be corrected.

To be fair, AA doesn't suck. He has the potential to top out as a 2nd line winger IMO.Although I think its more likely he's a middle 6 guy. Like Helm, I don't see him as a natural center, although he may be able to contribute there from time to time. I also believe that he could be a much BETTER player if he would be more willing to listen to coaching and work on playing a more well rounded 200 foot game. I want AA to change his ways because I want him to be a better hockey player, to succeed. We should all want that. My criticism of him is based on the fear that he won't learn and continue to cheat on D, relying almost entirely on his speed to survive. Speed doesn't last forever, and if he doesn't learn to contribute more in other areas, his NHL career may end up being shorter than any of us (AA included) would like it to be.

Oh don't pretend you're not just a hater, hater

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