LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, kipwinger said: Okay, I'll bite. Why would you put Rasmussen on the wing and not Veleno? No reason, I thought maybe he was more adapted to winger than Veleno? Heck, if Veleno is a better one, then put him there. Either way. Edited August 18, 2021 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted August 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Cuz someone has to say it after you bullied KRSmith right outta town and also because Macarattack is off banging hookers? Getting your material from NITF is just sad, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted August 18, 2021 Pickard over Comrie... the audacity! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,772 Report post Posted August 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: I see the Griffs re-signed Spezia, Elson, Verbeek, and Shine And also added forwards Kevin Lynch and Jon Martin Patrick Curry still there Shedding: Hicketts, Turgeon, and McIlrath, and a few other no names. Filip Larsson is loaned again, this time to Sweden 2nd tier league Albin Grewe is leaving the Griffs and going to Finland Liiga Kirill Tyutyayev is sticking with the Griffs this year Albert Johansson continuing his loan with Farjestad Eemil Viro continuing his loan with TPS Donovan Sebrango is not listed on the Griffs roster, so I assume returning to the OHL So I guess the Griffins look like this: Raymond - Pearson - Barber Hirose - Criscuolo - Berggren Tyutyayev - Elson - Martin Verbeek - Spezia - Lynch Shine/Curry Renouf - Murphy Lashoff - Witkowski Mcisaac - Barton Newpower Pickard Brattstrom Fulcher I heard on a Wings podcast that Sebrango is getting a waiver to stay with the Griffs. 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 663 Report post Posted August 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: I see the Griffs re-signed Spezia, Elson, Verbeek, and Shine And also added forwards Kevin Lynch and Jon Martin Patrick Curry still there Shedding: Hicketts, Turgeon, and McIlrath, and a few other no names. Filip Larsson is loaned again, this time to Sweden 2nd tier league Albin Grewe is leaving the Griffs and going to Finland Liiga Kirill Tyutyayev is sticking with the Griffs this year Albert Johansson continuing his loan with Farjestad Eemil Viro continuing his loan with TPS Donovan Sebrango is not listed on the Griffs roster, so I assume returning to the OHL So I guess the Griffins look like this: Raymond - Pearson - Barber Hirose - Criscuolo - Berggren Tyutyayev - Elson - Martin Verbeek - Spezia - Lynch Shine/Curry Renouf - Murphy Lashoff - Witkowski Mcisaac - Barton Newpower Pickard Brattstrom Fulcher Don't count out Veleno starting in Grand Rapids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 663 Report post Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, BarkBurgerman said: No, we released Hayden Verbeek. Seems like his AHL career is over. He'll sign in the ECHL or go to Europe. I think MTL just had to move a contract and he happened to be someone they didn't want and was also conveniently Pat Verbeek's nephew. Only thing with Stephens is he has to pass through waivers. If we call up Veleno and Smith and waive Nielsen, there's room for Stephens. I think that's the way it will go. Bertuzzi - Larkin - Vrana Fabbri - Suter - Zadina Names - Rasmussen - Erne Smith - Veleno - Gagner Stephens If need be they can always send Veleno down to keep Nielsen on the roster and avoid waiving anyone. Sending down Veleno to keep Nielson would be retarted. If Nielson starts on the NHL roster and Veleno, Raymond and Berggren all start in Grand Rapids, I'll be boycotting this season and watching the Griffins instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, marcaractac said: Getting your material from NITF is just sad, really. I wasn't being serious. Though you are a Veleno champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,772 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, BarkBurgerman said: Somebody should just start the Veleno v. Ras flame war thread now. It will define this season. I would, but I realistically only expect one of them to play in the NHL this year. 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 7 hours ago, TLGTrico said: Sending down Veleno to keep Nielson would be retarted. If Nielson starts on the NHL roster and Veleno, Raymond and Berggren all start in Grand Rapids, I'll be boycotting this season and watching the Griffins instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 14 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I wasn't being serious. Though you are a Veleno champ. Yeah, how dare I think he can become a good third line center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, marcaractac said: Yeah, how dare I think he can become a good third line center. Only if Rasmussen becomes a good 2nd line center. Big Ras > Little Joe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 I only said what I said to get Stephens in the lineup. I wasn't fanning any Ras v. Joe flames. I don't care which one plays Wing. I want to see both here, and Stephens play as well. Heck move Larkin to wing and keep both at C for all I care. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) Edited August 19, 2021 by F.Michael 1 1 The 91 of Ryans and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, F.Michael said: I am not convinced that Yzerman is going to go with the current roster and just add the kids though. I see Bobby Ryan returning (unless he's announced retirement) and maybe there is some water to Anisimov getting a PTO? The ONLY kids out of waiver options is Smith, so if we give him roster spot, that only makes 12 FWD's. The usual number is 14. Like I said, I don't see Yzerman just giving 2 rosters spots to kids. Not that they wouldn't deserve the opportunity, but I just think Yzerman would opt for a couple of vets at this point. Maybe, MAYBE Veleno earns a spot, but I do beleive that there will be two vets here instead. There are a few names out there in the 27-35 year old range. He has expressed how he'd like a couple more RH'd shots. Ryan would be one, then there a few others. Nikita Gusav - 28 Kyle Palmeri - 30 Alex Chiasson - 30 Tyler Bozak - 35 ...just a couple of examples. 3 Rick D, The 91 of Ryans and Rivalred reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) I think Veleno and Raymond make the team. I'm sure one or two guys will get PTOs just in case they have a bad camp. Edited August 19, 2021 by marcaractac 1 Scott R Lucidi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 663 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 As a follow-up to my previous post, looks Nielson won't be a wing or a griffin to start the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, TLGTrico said: As a follow-up to my previous post, looks Nielson won't be a wing or a griffin to start the season. 2 hours ago, marcaractac said: I think Veleno and Raymond make the team. I'm sure one or two guys will get PTOs just in case they have a bad camp. Maybe Veleno, but not both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted August 20, 2021 6 hours ago, LeftWinger said: I am not convinced that Yzerman is going to go with the current roster and just add the kids though. I see Bobby Ryan returning (unless he's announced retirement) and maybe there is some water to Anisimov getting a PTO? The ONLY kids out of waiver options is Smith, so if we give him roster spot, that only makes 12 FWD's. The usual number is 14. Like I said, I don't see Yzerman just giving 2 rosters spots to kids. Not that they wouldn't deserve the opportunity, but I just think Yzerman would opt for a couple of vets at this point. Maybe, MAYBE Veleno earns a spot, but I do beleive that there will be two vets here instead. There are a few names out there in the 27-35 year old range. He has expressed how he'd like a couple more RH'd shots. Ryan would be one, then there a few others. Nikita Gusav - 28 Kyle Palmeri - 30 Alex Chiasson - 30 Tyler Bozak - 35 ...just a couple of examples. Kyle or Bozak would be wonderful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted August 20, 2021 holy s*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted August 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dabura said: holy s*** getting in shape for the ahl ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Dabura said: holy s*** Nice to see he's embracing his role as future NHL 4th line grinder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Nice to see he's embracing his role as future NHL 4th line grinder. #badtakes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, marcaractac said: #badtakes Wheeler did a 2018 redraft today at The Athletic. Zadina dropped to 11th. Bergrren jumped into 18th from the second rd Veleno was nowhere to be found. Didn't even make the 20 guys listed as honorable mentions after going 30OA in the original draft. I think Wheeler made up for his shiddy prospect rankings with this list. Anyway, 3rd line winger or 4C (if he can get his 200ft game in order). That's yer guy. Glad he's bulking up for the role. Edited August 20, 2021 by The 91 of Ryans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 3:11 PM, marcaractac said: I think Veleno and Raymond make the team. I'm sure one or two guys will get PTOs just in case they have a bad camp. Veleno: - struggles in AHL - struggles in SHL - generally unhindered development path - drafted 30OA in 2018 - slid outside the top 50 in redraft - gonna make Wings this fall Bergrren: - kills SHL - more bad luck as a prospect than Igor Grigorenko - drafted 33rd in 2018 - rises to 18th in redraft - not going to make the Wings this fall The only way you're right is if Veleno is the Wings 4C to start 21-22 because Yzerman sees him as a 4C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 768 Report post Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Wheeler did a 2018 redraft today at The Athletic. Zadina dropped to 11th. Bergrren jumped into 18th from the second rd Veleno was nowhere to be found. Didn't even make the 20 guys listed as honorable mentions after going 30OA in the original draft. I think Wheeler made up for his shiddy prospect rankings with this list. Anyway, 3rd line winger or 4C (if he can get his 200ft game in order). That's yer guy. Glad he's bulking up for the role. 11th that's still too high. 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
