2022 Draft / UFA

[bIueadams 776]

We have 47 million committed to the cap with 7 spots open (with Fabbri and Edvinsson on the roster)

We have to spend 2 million per position just to reach the cap floor. Assuming Yzerman wants to be about 10 million over the floor (like this year) for breathing room, now we have to spend 4 million per roster spot to reach the target.

If we re-sign Zadina at a generous 2 mil. Walman at a generous 2 mil. And Stephens at a generous 2 mil. We have 4 spots open and have to spend 4.5 per roster position. 

I think it's more likely those players get 1.5 and Fabbri starts on LTIR. If that's the case we'll have to spend 4.7 on each of 5 roster spots. 

We're gonna need to sign some high dollar players...

[ely s 458]

1 hour ago, bIueadams said:

Fabbri starts on LTIR.

his cap hit  still counts

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

1 hour ago, ely s said:

his cap hit  still counts

we get relief if he rehabs next year, just like the bolts and kucherov.  we have to pay fabri, but get cap space relief.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

2 hours ago, bIueadams said:

We have 47 million committed to the cap with 7 spots open (with Fabbri and Edvinsson on the roster)

We have to spend 2 million per position just to reach the cap floor. Assuming Yzerman wants to be about 10 million over the floor (like this year) for breathing room, now we have to spend 4 million per roster spot to reach the target.

If we re-sign Zadina at a generous 2 mil. Walman at a generous 2 mil. And Stephens at a generous 2 mil. We have 4 spots open and have to spend 4.5 per roster position. 

I think it's more likely those players get 1.5 and Fabbri starts on LTIR. If that's the case we'll have to spend 4.7 on each of 5 roster spots. 

We're gonna need to sign some high dollar players...

Yes, This is why I think we should overpay Forsberg if necessary.  Even if Seider, Raymond, Larkin, Vrana, Forsberg, and Edvinsson all require 8 mil per in 2025, we'd still have room.  For example, with a Beruzzi trade and Jiricek draft:

Vrana (8) - Larkin (8) - Forsberg (8)

Berggren (3) - Andreasson (2) - Raymond (8)

Zadina (3) - Veleno (3) -  Niederbach (2)

Soderbom (1.5) - Rasmussen (3) - Sundquist (2.5)

Stephens (1), Cotton (1)

McIsaac (3) - Seider (8)

Edvinsson (8) - Jiricek (2)

Johansson (2) - Lindstrom (3)

Wallinder (1)

Cossa (2)

Back up (1)

Thats 84 mil total.  A 10% cap increase puts it at 89 mil per season.

Steve should go after Forsberg and a 2C hard this offseason.  Rebuilds take time.  Thats understood.  But it should also be understood that rebuilds take even more time if you strike out on UFAs and continually sign 9 crappy players to 2 mil a season contracts to hit the cap floor instead of 2 really good players to 9 mil a season contracts.

[ely s 458]

17 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

we get relief if he rehabs next year, just like the bolts and kucherov.  we have to pay fabri, but get cap space relief.

you only get the cap relief when you are over the cap, it counts to reach the floor

When a player is placed on LTIR, their cap hit remains on the teams cap payroll and it continues to count as it always did. It also does not provide the club with additional cap-space savings that can be banked for future use while the team operates above the salary cap. Instead, LTIR provides relief if the club's averaged club salary, or payroll, begins to exceed the upper limit. The amount of relief that the club receives is calculated on the day the player is placed on LTIR. There are three equations that are used to determine the LTIR relief, the first, the basic equation, can be used during the season and during the off-season. The second, the training-camp equation, can be used on the final day of the off-season in preparation for the first day of the season. The third formula is used when the team already has a player on LTIR.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

33 minutes ago, ely s said:

you only get the cap relief when you are over the cap, it counts to reach the floor

When a player is placed on LTIR, their cap hit remains on the teams cap payroll and it continues to count as it always did. It also does not provide the club with additional cap-space savings that can be banked for future use while the team operates above the salary cap. Instead, LTIR provides relief if the club's averaged club salary, or payroll, begins to exceed the upper limit. The amount of relief that the club receives is calculated on the day the player is placed on LTIR. There are three equations that are used to determine the LTIR relief, the first, the basic equation, can be used during the season and during the off-season. The second, the training-camp equation, can be used on the final day of the off-season in preparation for the first day of the season. The third formula is used when the team already has a player on LTIR.

yes.  if we dont exceed the cap, then its technically not relief.

[Akakabuto 1,842]

Lottery in six hours. 

[bIueadams 776]

1 hour ago, Akakabuto said:

Lottery in six hours. 

Edited May 10, 2022 by bIueadams

[F.Michael 4,590]

Watch us drop back to #10 ...

[Akakabuto 1,842]

 

[TLGTrico 661]

Ngl, if we get to pick eight and the Red wings still haven't been revealed, I'm going to assume we won second not first.

[bIueadams 776]

1 hour. Can I watch this on youtube? Hopefully they have a live chat

[bIueadams 776]

31 minutes ago, bIueadams said:

1 hour. Can I watch this on youtube? Hopefully they have a live chat

Got my time zones mixed up. hour and a half away now.

Found this if anyone wants to watch it:

 

[LeftWinger 5,132]

3 hours ago, F.Michael said:

Watch us drop back to #10 ...

Yzerman will get us a star even at 10.

Edited May 10, 2022 by LeftWinger

[Akakabuto 1,842]

Wings get 2OA and pick Slafkovsky. 

[bIueadams 776]

 

[bIueadams 776]

WE GOT f***ED AGAIN

[bIueadams 776]

1st - Habs
2nd - Devs

I hate this rigged league

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

8th.

[TLGTrico 661]

New Jersey getting another lottery win bothers me way more than the wings staying at 8.

[LeftWinger 5,132]

1 hour ago, TLGTrico said:

New Jersey getting another lottery win bothers me way more than the wings staying at 8.

Ya, but within 3-5 years they won't be able to afford to pay all the higher end talent.

Yzerman should call Montreal right now. Offer Bertuzzi, Hronek, the 8th and next years 1st unprotected for the #1 OA and take Weber's salary off their hands.

[bIueadams 776]

10 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Ya, but within 3-5 years they won't be able to afford to pay all the higher end talent.

Yzerman should call Montreal right now. Offer Bertuzzi, Hronek, the 8th and next years 1st unprotected for the #1 OA and take Weber's salary off their hands.

Yzerman will pick a better player at 8 than Montreal will get with Wright. 

[TLGTrico 661]

Just read a Scouting report on Frank Nazar, and I will be really disappointed if he's off the board before 8.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

Ya, but within 3-5 years they won't be able to afford to pay all the higher end talent.

Yzerman should call Montreal right now. Offer Bertuzzi, Hronek, the 8th and next years 1st unprotected for the #1 OA and take Weber's salary off their hands.

Montreal is not trading that pick.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

maybe Steve can trade back for Buffalos 9 and 16.

Suter + 8oa

for

9oa and 16oa