kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted January 14 (edited) 16 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: I'm just saying that he'd be in any trade package that acquires us a Cozens or Byram or Andersson. Veleno as well. I don't think he's "untouchable" or anything, I just don't think he's a bad player. For sure I'd trade him for an upgrade, but not just for any assh*le castoff. Checking is a HUGE part of successful hockey and not everyone can do it well. Ras can. Edited January 14 by kipwinger 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 231 Report post Posted January 14 I for one refuse to pick either Ammo or Finnie. Shame on you for even asking the impossible! I'll take Buium over Wallinder for your next poll. 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted January 22 Who’s the better prospect: MBN or Kiiskinen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Akakabuto said: Who’s the better prospect: MBN or Kiiskinen? It’s not a great comparison because MBN is a year younger. Kiiskinen is better now, but you have to think MBN has more upside with his size, skill, and strength combination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted January 23 (edited) 11 hours ago, kipwinger said: It’s not a great comparison because MBN is a year younger. Kiiskinen is better now, but you have to think MBN has more upside with his size, skill, and strength combination. Not really. Kiiskinen born late August 2005 and MBN early October the same year. Similar type of players, same size and both of them went full time in a men's league this season. Difference is one is drafted in the third round 2023 and the other is picked at 15 overall 2024. Edited January 23 by Akakabuto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted January 23 4 hours ago, Akakabuto said: Not really. Kiiskinen born late August 2005 and MBN early October the same year. Similar type of players, same size and both of them went full time in a men's league this season. Difference is one is drafted in the third round 2023 and the other is picked at 15 overall 2024. The point isn’t the number of days or months between them in age. Because Kiiskinen is in the prior years draft class, he’s played one more full season of hockey than MBN. Despite their ages Kiiskinen has been a year ahead in his development since he was a kid. This same thing is true of Kasper (young for his draft class) and Danielson (older for his draft). They’re only 6 months apart but Marco has played one full year more. That’s a years worth of practice, training, development, that the younger player doesn’t have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 133 Report post Posted January 23 2 completely different players playing in 2 completely different leagues. The SHL is arguably the 2nd best league in the world along with the KHL. Liiga is a distant 4th if its even considered that high. Liiga is probably closer to tier 2 Allsvenskan then it is the SHL in terms of QoC. Imo what Buchelnikov is doing in the KHL is the most impressive of the 3 even being 2 years older. Keep in mind Raymond put up only slightly better numbers then MBN in the SHL in his D+1 season. Kiiskinen is torching the Liiga but if that scoring doesnt translate hes not going to provide much at the NHL level. Theres no question MBNs game will translate to the NHL whether he develops into a top 6 power forward or bottom 6 is the only question with him. I think his ceiling is higher then some give him credit for. ceiling 1. Buch 2. MBN 3. Kisk probability to hit ceiling 1. MBN 2. Kisk 3. Buch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted January 23 24 minutes ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said: 2 completely different players playing in 2 completely different leagues. The SHL is arguably the 2nd best league in the world along with the KHL. Liiga is a distant 4th if its even considered that high. Liiga is probably closer to tier 2 Allsvenskan then it is the SHL in terms of QoC. Imo what Buchelnikov is doing in the KHL is the most impressive of the 3 even being 2 years older. Keep in mind Raymond put up only slightly better numbers then MBN in the SHL in his D+1 season. Kiiskinen is torching the Liiga but if that scoring doesnt translate hes not going to provide much at the NHL level. Theres no question MBNs game will translate to the NHL whether he develops into a top 6 power forward or bottom 6 is the only question with him. I think his ceiling is higher then some give him credit for. ceiling 1. Buch 2. MBN 3. Kisk probability to hit ceiling 1. MBN 2. Kisk 3. Buch I agree with 99% of this, but I don't agree that Kiiskinen "doesn't provide much" if he's not scoring. He's a good two-way player and checking winger as well. He also kills penalties. Think of his game as a Finnish Tyler Bertuzzi or Carter Mazur. He's got bottom six winger written all over him without the scoring, and middle six winger if his scoring translates (he's got size, speed, and shot so I don't see why it wouldn't). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick D 390 Report post Posted January 25 https://newstd.xinloc.com/red-wings-coach-reveals-biggest-surprise-of-tenure-xuanmai/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted January 26 18 hours ago, Rick D said: https://newstd.xinloc.com/red-wings-coach-reveals-biggest-surprise-of-tenure-xuanmai/ A 2nd pair of Johansson/ASP behind Edvinsson/Seider is going to be a solid D corp for years. Reminds of past Nashville and Carolina top 4s. 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 231 Report post Posted February 15 KHL All Star Competition last weekend.. Buchelnikov won the event with a time of 13.737 seconds. Compared to the NHL 2024 results: Connor McDavid: 13.408 seconds, winner Mathew Barzal: 13.519 seconds Quinn Hughes: 14.088 seconds Cale Makar: 14.089 seconds William Nylander: 14.164 seconds 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted February 20 Rock Me Amadeus Lombardi is by far our best Griffin prospect and makes Nate Danielson look like a pathetic joke. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 133 Report post Posted February 20 9 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said: Rock Me Amadeus Lombardi is by far our best Griffin prospect and makes Nate Danielson look like a pathetic joke. Carry on. Lombardi age 20 season - 5G-21A in 70GP Danielson age 20 season - 5G-20A in 45GP Lambo is developing well but Danielson is the far superior prospect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted February 25 (edited) On 2/20/2025 at 5:11 AM, stephen-gregory-yzerman said: Lombardi age 20 season - 5G-21A in 70GP Danielson age 20 season - 5G-20A in 45GP Lambo is developing well but Danielson is the far superior prospect. Cool dumb take. Very possible Danielson is the better prospect in the long haul... but RIGHT NOW, on THIS GRIFFINS TEAM, Lombardi is far and away the the best player/prospect, and you'd be a moron to suggest otherwise... Edited February 25 by Jimmybigrigs69 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted February 26 I was at Sunday’s Griffins game. Here are my thoughts. Wallinder is blah and Buium was better every time he touched the puck. Buium’s skating looked like an asset to me. Danielson needs to shoot more. That’s it. Once he learns to be “the man” he’s going to be a stud. Lombardi is the best offensive player on the team and is dangerous every time he has the puck. He looks taller too. But he needs to hit the weights or he’ll never make it in the NHL. 2 town123 and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted March 12 Interesting tidbit Rasmus Kagstrom of Skelleftea tweets that the plan for ASP is to finish the season in NA as soon as swede playoffs are over. He would be a huge shot in the arm for this team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted March 14 Anton Johansson signed to ELC. Kinda a dark horse for us. Big shutdown guy. Doesnt get the point scoring attention. Believe I had him ranked as our #3 D prospect a few years ago (before ASP and the crowd) 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,124 Report post Posted March 14 Ajo squared is the 3rd pair ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 231 Report post Posted March 14 Griffins will need him next year if Buium, Tumo or Wally make the jump to Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted March 16 Keep an eye on Max Plante. He’s been awesome in the NCAA. Scoring in the same company as some pretty highly respected (and older) prospects from recent drafts. He and Finnie are both studs and our center depth outside of Larkin is going to be insane for the next few years. Danielson, Kasper, Plante, Finnie. This should get you hard now that we’ve all seen how good Marco has been in a big NHL role. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted March 24 Wings have 3 players with expiring rights this summer: Sam Stange, Liam Dower-Nilsson, and Red Savage. Savage - 22 years old. Just captained MSU to a big10 championship. Easy sign IMO. He's probably a forever AHL/ECHL guy... however he's too much of a cultural fit to pass on IMO. Leader, grew up in MI, playing with Augustine... maybe one day he's a Drew Miller, worst case scenario he's a Brian Lashoff type. Liam Dower-Nilsson - just isnt that good unfortunately... only reason to sign IMO would be as a show of good faith to his younger brother Noah... who is the better player IMO... but also not super special. If there's doubts about Noah then just pass entirely I think. Sam Stange - interesting one here. 24 years old now and sorta forgotten about. But he just transfered from Wisconsin to Nebraska-Omaha this year and suddenly he's dominant, and the best player on that team. He's probably going to slip through the cracks and go un-signed, but, sorta like Savage, i'd rather the wings take a flyer on him then sign more Eduards Tralmarks, Alexandre Doucets, and Hunter Johannes's... guys who are clearly just fillers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 231 Report post Posted March 24 I guess it really depends on how many spots will be open in GR and Toledo. I like that SY has some grit vets for our kids to learn from in GR, but, in Detroit we're soft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted March 24 55 minutes ago, town123 said: I guess it really depends on how many spots will be open in GR and Toledo. I like that SY has some grit vets for our kids to learn from in GR, but, in Detroit we're soft. I agree. Detroit is soft and it's something we need to address in UFA. Someone mentioned grabbing Reaves on waivers a while back... that probably wasn't such a terrible idea... This is also why I absolutely think it's time to part ways with "Showtime". Cool having a (former) superstar on the roster, and the boys respect him and blah blah blah, but he is purelyyyyy finesse. Barely a spec of defense or grit to his game. We have offensive talent at this point so he's redundant. He also gave us a second chance this year to do something and we blew it... I just think from both parties perspective its time to part ways. Not to mention... his qutting on Lalonde this year REALLY rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe Newsy really was absolutely regarded... but you dont quit. IDGAF that youre Patrick 50in07 Kane or what. I honestly think SY should have fired Newsy AND traded Kane at that point. But I digress... There's a few players I wouldn't mind replacing Kane and Motte with this year: 1. Sam Bennett - should be target #1 IMHO. Fits our timeline and age group and he's a gritty SOB who can still score. 2. Brad Marchand - he's a dick/rat whatever, but he's a phenomenal player and great person/leader off the ice. His spending time with newly drafted prospects in order to teach them "how to be a bruin" really sold me on his character. 3. Tanner Jeanott - on a reasonable 4th line contract he would add a nice wallup to the lineup. Can have Mottes spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted March 25 Kamloops just reported Emmitt Finnie is headed to GR. The legend of the Findog begins again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted March 27 Shapiro is reporting Griffs may very well have MBN, ASP... AND Trey for the calder playoffs. Mrazek and Talbot deals end after next season. It would be excellent if the wings can get Trey inked this summer and get him to forego his junior college season. Talbot/Mrazek tandem in DET Cossa/Augustine tandem in GR With Cossa cycling into the DET lineup when Talbs and Mraz are getting gassed and hurt. With the real aim of him slowly prepping to take over the net after next season. At that point I think SY will seek a mentoring vet for Cossa to backstop him on a short term deal. Allowing Augustine to cook by himself in GR for at least a season or two before our holy tandem takes shape. 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
