Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 45 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Drafting is hard too. With the idea of Zadina going the other way (which is fine) I'm still pissed at Holland that he left both Hughes and Bouchard looking right at us and drafted Zadina. Holland just destroyed this team with his stupid drafting at the end. Ok, breathe, Yzerman will make this right. Yah, missing out on Hughes set us back 5 years. He's w HOF player. But look at Zadina as an asset to get Debrincat and it's easier to stomach. Why Zadina is wanted by Ottawa is whole nother story. But Zadina (solid bottom 6 LW) + pick 17 (solid 2nd/3rd Line RW in 4 years) + pick 43 (50 career games in the NHL) for Debrincat (solid 2nd line RW) looks like a good move. Debrincat's possession metrics are off the chart. I hate minus players as you all know, but Debrincat looks to be a guy who would turn minuses around quickly with a good 2 way centerman. Larkin is just that. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Well, he either does the deal and gets in the 1st round this year, or he loses Debincat for nothing come next summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 Sounds like SY is gonna drag this Dcat trade into the summer Unless were really geting him for 2nd rounders and roster players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,126 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, bIueadams said: Sounds like SY is gonna drag this Dcat trade into the summer Unless were really geting him for 2nd rounders and roster players We got nothing but time and if Dorion can't get it done during the draft. Then what happens? He takes Decat to arbitration and prays for a deal next March? Yzerman seems to be a nasty negotiator which I am taking delight in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, bIueadams said: Sounds like SY is gonna drag this Dcat trade into the summer Unless were really geting him for 2nd rounders and roster players Maybe the Boston pick is in play? If so, maybe the #17 can be used for a three way trade with Philly and St. Louis... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,126 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 Brian Wallace @thedistrictbw · 1m I just read this is what is being reported Detroit- DeBrincat Ottawa- #17 overall, Filip Zadina a second round draft pick (From Boston for Tyler Bertuzzi) We shall see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Brian Wallace @thedistrictbw · 1m I just read this is what is being reported Detroit- DeBrincat Ottawa- #17 overall, Filip Zadina a second round draft pick (From Boston for Tyler Bertuzzi) We shall see We don't have a 2nd from Boston. We have ours, St. Louis and Vancouver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 234 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 Dorion also said that the team is looking to trade Alex DeBrincat as the NHL Draft approaches. He noted that DeBrincat has not requested a trade, but the restricted free agent has refused to sign long-term with the club. DeBrincat, 25, had 27 goals and 66 points in 82 games this past season. He was acquired by the Senators in July of 2022 during the NHL Draft from the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for three draft picks. The Senators general manager said there's been a large amount of trade talks, but does not expect to be able to land a first-round pick before Wednesday night. Dorion said he may be able to land a second- or third-round pick before those rounds take place on Thursday. Ottawa is currently without a selection until the fourth round, with another selection to follow in the fifth round and three picks assigned to them in the seventh round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) Two seconds and Zadina for DeBrincat. Get er done. Then he can fulfill his destiny of filling nets with pucks in Ottawa... during practice. Edited June 27, 2023 by marcaractac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 I'm just itching for something to happen! Come on! 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, bIueadams said: Sounds like SY is gonna drag this Dcat trade into the summer Unless were really geting him for 2nd rounders and roster players Well then I would say his "scouting evaluations" are really, really bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Axl Foley said: Well then I would say his "scouting evaluations" are really, really bad. Hes just saving face as he knows hes not gonna get back what he paid for DCat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, bIueadams said: Hes just saving face as he knows hes not gonna get back what he paid for DCat This is the year you want multiple first round picks. For a rebuilding team to have 0 picks in the first 100 is just bad GM'ing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Axl Foley said: This is the year you want multiple first round picks. For a rebuilding team to have 0 picks in the first 100 is just bad GM'ing. Ottawa rebuild over haven’t you heard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Ottawa rebuild over haven’t you heard Well then that's just more bad GM'ing then. 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, Axl Foley said: Well then that's just more bad GM'ing then. Yeah. Reminds me of Vancouver a couple years ago after they drafted Petterson and Quinn Yooooz. Jumped the gun. I am glad Yzerman is a patient grind-it-out GM 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 8 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Yah, missing out on Hughes set us back 5 years. He's w HOF player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 28, 2023 I want all our first round picks, tbh. Give Ottawa scraps out of our farm and failed 1st rounders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: I want all our first round picks, tbh. Give Ottawa scraps out of our farm and failed 1st rounders. If a 1st is needed to finish the trade - then I’d rather see a pick from the 2024 draft be used. 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, F.Michael said: If a 1st is needed to finish the trade - then I’d rather see a pick from the 2024 draft be used. agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 234 Report post Posted June 28, 2023 I agree. Give the Sens both of our 2018 1st rounders. 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 28, 2023 If he wants a 1st next year, so be it. Trade him Zadina, #42 this year and OUR top 15 protected 1st in 24. If we fail to make the playoffs, then they get Boston's 1st. If both us and Boston make the playoffs, they get whichever one is the higher pick. If both picks are top 15, then they get our unprotected 1st in 2025. Then use today's #17 to try and acquire Konecny. I'd also love to see if we could get Krug somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted June 28, 2023 Vanilla midget. 1 1 1 town123, Jonas Mahonas and bIueadams reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 30, 2023 So apparently, Ottawa is not allowing any teams to discuss a contract before he is traded. This is most likely the sticking point preventing a deal. Nobody wants to make the same mistake as Dorion and give up valuable assets for a guy they may not be able to re-sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
