The Yzerplan The Vision Becoming Minnesota Repeating History Help 9/11

[Troy McClure 347]

I know the title seems schizo, but I assure, I took my meds today.

We (the red wings) have entered the warm and loving arms of mediocrity. It feels nice, because before this we were complete trash garbage ppl untouchables who can't even show their face in hockey church. But now we have mega sweet superstar JT COMPHER and we are going in the right direction!

REALLITY: We will accomplish nothing of significance and we also won't draft high.

>become minnestoa >deny your fate >repeat history

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

1. tanking didn't work

2. This is only the first year of "mediocrity" so why don't you settle down 

 

[Troy McClure 347]

9 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

1. tanking didn't work

2. This is only the first year of "mediocrity" so why don't you settle down 

 

Okay sorry

[Troy McClure 347]

1/5 of the season is done and we are at the American thanksgiving day bench mark. Historically 76% of teams in a playoff position at this point of the season go on to make the playoffs.

Currently we are outside looking in:

1. Boston
2. Florida
3. Tampa
4. Toronto
5. Detroit

The good: Dcat and Larkin are leading the team well in production. Raymond is having the bounce back season we expected. Compher is legit, and not solely a product of the Avs offense as hoped. Sprong has added good scoring deph, and Veleno is having a better season finally.

The bad: Perron is starting to show signs of regression with his age. Copp is playing like meh again. Rasmussen has not built on any of last years growth and is looking like the big rig pansy Johnny E out there. Fabbri is productive when here but just can't stay healthy.

The good: Seider and Walman are leading the backend as expected. Ghostbear is basically just an extra forward out there that needs to be sheltered, but he's playing in that role well. Chiarot is having a better season. Holl is not the disaster Leafs fans made him out to be, and is a pretty good defensive dman.

The bad: Petry isn't the player he once was. Maata isn't playing his best hockey right now, but he also has to cover for Petry or Ghostbear most nights.

The good: Reimer and Lyon are both playing well.

The bad: Husso should just let Reimer and Lyon split time until he gets his head on straight.

For us to make the playoffs I think we need make a real push for Patrick Kane. That could be the extra spark or oomph to push us into a wildcard spot. And I think signing a former cup champ superstar at this point of the season would be a real vote of confidence and morale booster in the room. If it doesn't work out oh well, at least we tried.

If we have to sell we need to unload Perron and Ghostbear. Perron at his age isn't worth re-signing for us, and we should sell high on Ghostbear for the return. Sprong and Fischer I would like to keep and extend IMO. Both are young and have provided good depth. I think it would be good to explore a trade for Maata and Husso as well.

Then end the season like this:

DCat - Larkin - Kane
Copp - Compher - Raymond
Berggren - Veleno - Sprong
Kostin - Rasmussen - Fischer
Czarnik

LTIR: Fabbri

Walman - Seider
Edvinsson - Holl
Chiarot - Petry
McIsaac

Lyon
Reimer

[Akakabuto 1,831]

20 minutes ago, Troy McClure said:

Currently we are outside looking in:

1. Boston
2. Florida
3. Tampa
4. Toronto
5. Detroit

Not if you go by P%. Which is more fair. 

Edited November 23, 2023 by Akakabuto

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

1 minute ago, Akakabuto said:

Not if you go by P%. Which is more fair. 

Yes. Detroit are currently in the 2nd WC and thus have a 76% chance of making playoffs according to historical stuff

 

[Akakabuto 1,831]

3 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Yes. Detroit are currently in the 2nd WC and thus have a 76% chance of making playoffs according to historical stuff

 

Never tell me the odds

[Axl Foley 318]

3 hours ago, Troy McClure said:

1/5 of the season is done and we are at the American thanksgiving day bench mark. Historically 76% of teams in a playoff position at this point of the season go on to make the playoffs.

Currently we are outside looking in:

1. Boston
2. Florida
3. Tampa
4. Toronto
5. Detroit

The good: Dcat and Larkin are leading the team well in production. Raymond is having the bounce back season we expected. Compher is legit, and not solely a product of the Avs offense as hoped. Sprong has added good scoring deph, and Veleno is having a better season finally.

The bad: Perron is starting to show signs of regression with his age. Copp is playing like meh again. Rasmussen has not built on any of last years growth and is looking like the big rig pansy Johnny E out there. Fabbri is productive when here but just can't stay healthy.

The good: Seider and Walman are leading the backend as expected. Ghostbear is basically just an extra forward out there that needs to be sheltered, but he's playing in that role well. Chiarot is having a better season. Holl is not the disaster Leafs fans made him out to be, and is a pretty good defensive dman.

The bad: Petry isn't the player he once was. Maata isn't playing his best hockey right now, but he also has to cover for Petry or Ghostbear most nights.

The good: Reimer and Lyon are both playing well.

The bad: Husso should just let Reimer and Lyon split time until he gets his head on straight.

For us to make the playoffs I think we need make a real push for Patrick Kane. That could be the extra spark or oomph to push us into a wildcard spot. And I think signing a former cup champ superstar at this point of the season would be a real vote of confidence and morale booster in the room. If it doesn't work out oh well, at least we tried.

If we have to sell we need to unload Perron and Ghostbear. Perron at his age isn't worth re-signing for us, and we should sell high on Ghostbear for the return. Sprong and Fischer I would like to keep and extend IMO. Both are young and have provided good depth. I think it would be good to explore a trade for Maata and Husso as well.

Then end the season like this:

DCat - Larkin - Kane
Copp - Compher - Raymond
Berggren - Veleno - Sprong
Kostin - Rasmussen - Fischer
Czarnik

LTIR: Fabbri

Walman - Seider
Edvinsson - Holl
Chiarot - Petry
McIsaac

Lyon
Reimer

Steve is not going to trade away assets if he thinks they can make the playoffs.

[13dangledangle 968]

I like those lines, but for Raymonds sake Id like to see Copp do a little topsy turvy Berggren. 

Wings are still very much in the running for Kane-despite some peoples feelings on the subject.  "Kane's putting a lot of thought into the Red Wings"  but he still wants a multi year contract-per Elliote Friedman.  Decision is expected early next week.

If nothing else, I think this would be a very fun signing.    

[Motor City Mullets 282]

8 hours ago, 13dangledangle said:

I like those lines, but for Raymonds sake Id like to see Copp do a little topsy turvy Berggren. 

Wings are still very much in the running for Kane-despite some peoples feelings on the subject.  "Kane's putting a lot of thought into the Red Wings"  but he still wants a multi year contract-per Elliote Friedman.  Decision is expected early next week.

If nothing else, I think this would be a very fun signing.    

If Yzerman plans on signing Kane - my guess is he really wants to make it to the post-season come  April (IN THE D).

Edited November 24, 2023 by Motor City Mullets

[Troy McClure 347]

22 hours ago, 13dangledangle said:

I like those lines, but for Raymonds sake Id like to see Copp do a little topsy turvy Berggren. 

Wings are still very much in the running for Kane-despite some peoples feelings on the subject.  "Kane's putting a lot of thought into the Red Wings"  but he still wants a multi year contract-per Elliote Friedman.  Decision is expected early next week.

If nothing else, I think this would be a very fun signing.    

Front runners make sense: Kane wants to go to a winning team on a multi-year contract.

Buffalo: Can offer multi-year, but not a winning team
Florida: A winning team, but can't offer multi-year.
Detroit: Maybe able to offer both...

14 hours ago, Motor City Mullets said:

If Yzerman plans on signing Kane - my guess is he really wants to make it to the post-season come  April (IN THE D).

You can sign Kane and still be sellers at the deadline

[Axl Foley 318]

Who are you going to sell? The pending UFAs (except for Perron) would be an integral part of a playoff run.

[Dabura 12,228]

Re: Kane, Friedman says he believes Florida's out and that it's now us and Buffalo.

I'll say this: We do need a left-shot scoring winger.

[Dabura 12,228]

On 11/25/2023 at 8:35 PM, Axl Foley said:

Who are you going to sell? The pending UFAs (except for Perron) would be an integral part of a playoff run.

Yeah, I think if we're gonna go for it, then we're gonna go for it. All hands on deck.

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

Becoming Minnesota. More like spanking Minnesota.........

Team is lit rn

[Motor City Mullets 282]

19 hours ago, Dabura said:

scoring winger.

Emphasis on...

[diehardredwingsfan58 156]

23 hours ago, Dabura said:

Re: Kane, Friedman says he believes Florida's out and that it's now us and Buffalo.

I'll say this: We do need a left-shot scoring winger.

I'd do 2 x $3,000,000 for Patty Kane, The very worst is he's on LTIR for most of it.

[Dabura 12,228]

4 hours ago, diehardredwingsfan58 said:

I'd do 2 x $3,000,000 for Patty Kane, The very worst is he's on LTIR for most of it.

Yeah - it wouldn't be a 35+ year contract, so I'm actually not sure term is as big a problem as I and others have made it out to be. But still...yeah, no more than two years please.

I should add that I'm not sure Friedman explicitly said it looks like it's down to Buffalo and Detroit. I get all my Sportsnet rumormongering from second-hand sources as opposed to Sportsnet itself, because I can't stand Sportsnet.

[Euro_Twins 4,485]

Hi I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such films as;

Speaking too soon

Do I have an a$$ on my face?

And, I forgot to take my meds, do you know where I live? - a story about a crazy person

 

I'm here to talk to you about a new charity I'm embezzling from. It's called knee jerk reactions

 

We tell you it's about helping old people get knee replacement surgery and we use the money to buy Starbucks. 

 

I'm Troy McClure. Vote for me 

[Troy McClure 347]

5 hours ago, Euro_Twins said:

Hi I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such films as;

Speaking too soon

Do I have an a$$ on my face?

And, I forgot to take my meds, do you know where I live? - a story about a crazy person

 

I'm here to talk to you about a new charity I'm embezzling from. It's called knee jerk reactions

 

We tell you it's about helping old people get knee replacement surgery and we use the money to buy Starbucks. 

 

I'm Troy McClure. Vote for me 

One measly Patrick Kane signing and suddenly now you wanna talk at me...

You better pray every night that Kaners legs dont get ripped off at the hip. Cause if this flops I am literally going to put MY a$$ on YOUR face.

[Euro_Twins 4,485]

59 minutes ago, Troy McClure said:

One measly Patrick Kane signing and suddenly now you wanna talk at me...

You better pray every night that Kaners legs dont get ripped off at the hip. Cause if this flops I am literally going to put MY a$$ on YOUR face.

You know what is actually funny. The team is a playoff team without kane. 

I want to see what you say if the kane signing does work out. 

 

But then again it wounds like you want to give him mouth hugs anyways 

[Troy McClure 347]

3 minutes ago, Euro_Twins said:

You know what is actually funny. The team is a playoff team without kane. 

I want to see what you say if the kane signing does work out. 

 

But then again it wounds like you want to give him mouth hugs anyways 

You under estimate my doom posting abilities.

[Motor City Mullets 282]

Regardless of the Kane signing and winning last night against the Blues...We're still destined for mediocrity...

[Scott R Lucidi 663]

44 minutes ago, Motor City Mullets said:

Regardless of the Kane signing and winning last night against the Blues...We're still destined for mediocrity...

If we dont bring up Edvinsson and Johansson, yes.

[Motor City Mullets 282]

2 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

If we dont bring up Edvinsson and Johansson, yes.

GR is currently sub .500 - what makes these 2 guys the difference maker in Detroit?