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In Topic: Mantha getting closer.

Today, 08:38 AM

It was clearly a made up stat by Rich, seems how hits weren't tracked until after the 2004 lockout...


EDIT: The NHL did not start tracking hits until Shanahan was 36 years old. In his last season with the Wings in '05-'06 he had 74 hits in 82 games. Then he went on to play with the Rangers for 2 seasons from '06-'08 where he had 113 hits in 140 games. Then he played his final year with the Devils in '08-'09 where he had 18 hits in 34 games.


So in his final 4 seasons when his body was breaking down he averaged under a hit per game... What about when he was in his prime? One of the best power forwards in the league?...

In Topic: Inconsistency

Today, 08:22 AM

Rich, I disagree. Tatar has been on fire as of late with 12 points (8 goals, 4 assists) in the past 12 games, which is great, but he has been the only one "on fire". Nyquist only has 4 points (3 goals, 1 assist) in his past 11 games, in which 2 of those points came in one game against Tampa, and the other came last night against Ottawa. I'm not saying he is in a massive slump, but definitely not on fire. Franzen has been extremely consistent so far this season, but doesn't have a point in his past two games, his longest stretch all season. Zetterberg has been in a bit of a slump, with just 3 assists in his past 9 games. I'm sure once Tatar cools off a little, which he inevitably will, Zetterberg will be out of his slump. Sheahan really seems to be heating up lately with 5 points (3 goals, 2 assists) in the past 5 games, and hopefully with Nyquist finding the back of the net again last night, he will heat up again.


Anyway, my point is, that while some players are on fire or heating up, some other players are slumping right now. That's just the way it is in any sport. Also, Datsyuk has been injured and Smith is out now, so you can't really say there haven't been any significant injuries...

In Topic: Mantha getting closer.

Today, 07:54 AM

The point was that you originally compared Mantha to Shanahan because of his fighting ability, now you're just comparing them offensively, stating that "Shanny was much more willing to drop the gloves than Mantha ever has been"... My point is that he will not be dropping the gloves very often, if at all at the pro level, and if he does, I'm sure management will have a chat with him. They're not going to want their top prospect in 20 years, risk injury in fighting.


Red Wings management say a lot of things, regarding prospects but everyone knows how they like to develop their players - overripe. And while I do think Mantha will be somewhat of an exception to their rule, I don't think they're in any huge rush to get him in the NHL. Management also said that one of our top defense prospects would be making the team out of camp this year. That never happened. Because they're not ready? Nope. Ouellet is clearly ready and has already passed Kindl and Lashoff on the depth chart. Players have to put their time in with the Red Wings, nothing is ever handed to them, and that philosophy seems to have been working quite well for them. I'm not necessarily saying that Pulkkinen will be called up before Mantha, because I could see it going either way, especially depending on who they're being called up to replace, but I don't think it's as clear cut as you're trying to make it out to be...

In Topic: Mantha getting closer.

Yesterday, 05:58 PM

Although I would never compare him to a Shanahan type, I think he is a lot more aggressive than he gets credit for. He is a big body and he does use it to his advantage. He does like to hit and mix it up a little from time to time, I just think he needs to stay away from the fighting.


I totally agree with your assessment jimmy, he does have a knack for quietly finding the open ice and putting the puck in the net.

In Topic: Mantha getting closer.

Yesterday, 03:25 PM

While I do agree with you that Mantha isn't as clear cut to be the first recall that Rich is claiming, I wouldn't be surprised either way. If Pulkkinen gets called up, it is well deserved because he has been working his ass off and has been producing down in the minors for nearly 2 years now. If Mantha gets called up, it is because he has a much better chance in filling in a top 6 role. I love Pulkkinen but as of right now, he is nothing more than a third line NHL winger in Detroit's system, whether he reaches his 2nd line potential is entire up to himself. Mantha on the other hand, although I'd love to see him finish the year in Grand Rapids, is probably going to have the easier transition into a top 6 NHL role because of his size and skill set.


Also, last Saturday was the first Griffins game I missed in a while and the only one I missed that Mantha played in. I seen the highlights but never bothered to watch the full game. But every other game I watched that Mantha played, he flat out dominated when he wanted to. And I don't mean when he wanted to in a lazy way, he seemed to take over the play and did not seem to be lazy or floating at all in the games I seen. So maybe it was just an off game... I may watch that last game tonight before the Wings game if I have the time...