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In Topic: Datsyuk or Fedorov?

Yesterday, 02:52 PM

1. In answering for myself, Fedorov was the better player.  In terms of Wings fans in general, I wouldn't be surprised if more said Datsyuk, for several reasons: he didn't have a nasty exit from the team, for a long time now (at forward), the team has been him and Zetterberg, there were more greats around in Fedorov's day + timing thing, Datsyuk's more current.

 

2. Fedorov should get in fairly easily, but his offensive stats tailed off (under 1ppg, under 500 goals), but he was better all around than anyone + playoff stats are good and he has the major awards to back him up.  Also, being the highest scoring Russian in league history will help.  Ovechkin will likely pass him, Datsyuk won't, but either way, Fedorov will have held that title for many years.

 

3. I'm honestly not sure about Datsyuk getting in.  Then again, it's always hard to say.  There are worse players in than Datsyuk, but there are also better players that haven't made it.


In Topic: Leiweke Leaving Toronto after 1 year

Yesterday, 12:49 PM

From what I've heard, his role with MLSE was never meant to be long term, so to many, this isn't a huge surprise.  Also, for clarity, it will likely be over 2 years that he will be with MLSE since he will leave on June 30, 2015 (unless the Board finds a new replacement sooner).  That said, my guess is that he is likely leaving earlier than planned for some reason (difficulty dealing with Bell and Rogers boards?).

 

For those not as close to the specifics, this isn't a Toronto Maple Leafs thing, MLSE owns the Leafs, Raptors and Toronto FC (MLS soccer team) - amoung many other ventures.  So, he was the President of MSLE and from what I can tell, most of his attention was actually on other ventures, not the Leafs specifically.


In Topic: Zetterberg Foundation fundraiser

Yesterday, 10:21 AM

It's about what we'd give as a wedding gift when attending, so doesn't seem unreasonable at all.


In Topic: What Might Have Been: Gretzky to Detroit?

18 August 2014 - 01:46 PM

Well, he had just turned 30, so really not that old (Datsyuk's best offensive seasons...by far....were at the age of 30 and 31).  The real low scoring years didn't really come until the real late 90s and even then, scoring was higher than now (going by scoring leaders list anyway...not by any in-depth analysis).  Anyway, that really doesn't matter as it is really his production compared to the rest of the league.

 

You are right though, regardless of health, would be a bit much to expect him to continue to outpace everyone by a significant margin past the age of 35.  That's the other consideration as well....in 1988, Wayne was 27 and Stevie was 23.  So if you are thinking about a magically age that players "lose it", you'd be getting an extra 4 years out of Stevie.

 

A fun stat as well...at that point, Gretzky amassed 1,669 career points, compared to Yzerman's 410 (of course, Gretzky had 4 more years in the league).  If you look at stats only from when Yzerman was in the league, Yzerman averaged 95 points per 82 games (so he was a star for sure by that point)....but Wayne averaged 209 points over 82 games during that same period.


In Topic: What Might Have Been: Gretzky to Detroit?

18 August 2014 - 08:27 AM

Looking at this potential in 1988, no question, you'd do the trade 10 out of 10 times.  However, let's not forget the hit from behind Gretzky took from Suter in the 1991 Canada Cup.  He was not the same player for the rest of his career after that.  Yes, he still put up significant offensive numbers, but he no longer left the rest of the league in his dust.