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In Topic: Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Yesterday, 02:59 PM

The only problem I have with these types of deals is that the player will always earn more than they should.  Sign for a few years that you grow into, then you sign your next deal that overpays early again for you to grow into it, etc.  Perhaps they'll be a bargain by the end of the deal, but what about the years leading up to the end of the deal?  I'm using hypotheticals now, but if a player signs for 5 years that turns out to be a bargain in the last year or 2, it doesn't change the fact that he was overpaid for the majority of the contract. 


In Tatar's case, I don't think that is a big issue though as even if he is overpaid for the entire thing, a 3-year, $2.75M contract is not going to cause any issues.  It's the long-term, high dollar contracts that suck.

In Topic: Dekeyser/Tatar status update

25 July 2014 - 01:27 PM

My point is that you can't really apply that logic to everyone (i.e. giving a bridge deal to everyone coming of ELC).  Take Crosby as another extreme case.  You wouldn't sign him to a 2 year prove it deal after his first 3 years.  To me, bridge deals are more of a risk management concept.  Sometimes, a player would prefer 2 years at $3M per rather than 6 years at $4M per...it really depends.


Take Subban for example.  Montreal went with a bridge deal for him and are going to get burned now.  Not sure if he pushed for the bridge deal or not, but they would have been better off signing him long-term a couple years ago, now they will end up paying much more.


I understand your point of view though....you haven't put in enough time to demonstrate consistency, therefore don't deserve a long-term lucrative contract....however, teams often give players contracts they don't currently deserve to avoid having to pay them even more in the future.

In Topic: 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

25 July 2014 - 11:55 AM

I agree with you there, like I said, I don't think either is a bad deal.  I think the Booth deal is a better one, but I certainly wouldn't look at that one as a steal and think of the Cleary one as a terrible deal.  Both are low risk deals and while the Booth one is better (imo), it certainly isn't by a huge amount.

In Topic: Ferraro re-signed: 1-year $550K (2-way)

25 July 2014 - 11:45 AM

Yeah, you have to include AHL games as well since he's over 20, so he's tripped that as well....now must clear.

In Topic: Ferraro re-signed: 1-year $550K (2-way)

25 July 2014 - 11:13 AM

Pretty sure he wouldn't have to go through waivers.  I think he's tripped over the number of years threshold, but I believe you have to trip over both that and games played and he's got a long way to go before he gets to the games played threshold.