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#2684053 Calle Jarnkrok

Posted by toby91_ca on 27 July 2016 - 12:31 PM

Someone would have to convince me why Helm is worth 2X what Jarnkrok is getting.


Maybe the value in the deal is term....which is very valuable to players...very few are going to have long careers in the league....getting a 6 year guaranteed contract is pretty valuable for most.

#2683791 Hall of Fame Worthy

Posted by toby91_ca on 25 July 2016 - 08:06 AM

I used Carbonneau as an example of a guy that had the Selke's but didn't score enough, I suggested Datsyuk likely did score enough...while his scoring is low on its own, combined with Selke's will likely be enough.


I don't get the suggestions that he wasn't as good as Crosby that I've seen a lot of here.  I don't disagree, but why does that matter?  Do you need to be better than Crosby to get into the HOF?  Crosby will likely be seen as the best player to have started his career within the last 20 years....so he'll be in his first year of eligibility....so will a few others that weren't considered as good as him and there will be more that still get in as well, but take more time.

#2683621 Fans rank front offices....Wings 21st

Posted by toby91_ca on 22 July 2016 - 10:16 AM

It's probably a relatively fair assessment, but at the same time, this is the result of polling fans and only 200 of them, so the results don't really mean that much.

#2680593 Shea Weber for Pernal Karl Subban

Posted by toby91_ca on 30 June 2016 - 11:47 AM

Here's my view....if you start the discussion on Dmen by pulling a bunch of stats, that's where the discussion stops for me.


If you want to assess a winger vs. another winger, stats are more meaningful, less meaningful when you get to centers, but still meaningful....get even less when you get to Dmen.


Team Canada knows what they are doing, they have a lot of smart hockey minds making decisions and Weber tends to be one of, if not their 1st pick and Subban tends not to even make the team.  Not saying that end the discussion, but there is a reason for that.

#2677638 2016 SCF: San Jose Sharks vs. Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by toby91_ca on 14 June 2016 - 09:19 AM

Thornton is still a pretty good player and it makes total sense too.  His game has never been based on speed, so there is no reason why he couldn't operate at a fairly high level.  Similar situation with Jagr.  Jagr had a bit more speed, but no one would have thought of him as fast or that being an asset to his game.  Lidstrom was similar in that he didn't decline dramatically, was more of a slow decline, largely because his game was less focused on speed and physicality.  He was going to decline, everyone does, but it's wasn't as dramatic as you tend to see with other types of players.


It will be interesting to see how Ovechkin's career goes late into his 30's since he's the type of player I'd expect to decline quicker than others if my theory holds up.  

#2677575 2016 SCF: San Jose Sharks vs. Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by toby91_ca on 12 June 2016 - 10:25 PM

They got the Conn Smythe right.  Kessel had 3 more points, but Crosby was by far the more complete and more important player.


I honestly thought Kessel would win it, but didn't think he should.  Sometimes you wonder if they just look to who had the most points and not pay attention to the games and watch closely.  I thought Crosby was way more dominant later in the playoffs than he was early on, but the points seemed to follow the opposite.

Cullen won in 2006 with Carolina

#2676510 Datsyuk - someone who works for JLA told me he's sold his house

Posted by toby91_ca on 25 May 2016 - 09:18 AM

I'm not going to lie, some of all this is leaving a bad taste in my mouth, which is tough to admit.  At this point in his career, I don't think the team's on-ice performance will suffer because Datsyuk is not there, so I'm not dreaming of him coming back or anything, it just doesn't sit well with me that he isn't playing out the contract he signed.  If he didn't think he'd stay, he shouldn't have signed a 2 year deal, or whatever it was.  Those finding excuses, suggesting his ankle injury, etc. holds no value to me when you consider he went straight to the world championships after the season and will likely play in the KHL next season.


The biggest issue for me is the dead cap space for now, not missing the player (other than nostalgia).  I probably won't hold it against him too much, but for now, it does sting.

#2676089 ECF : Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by toby91_ca on 17 May 2016 - 10:17 AM

I saw bits and pieces of the game (most of the 1st, half of the 2nd and 3rd).  I flipped back to the game about 30 seconds after the OT goal....that happens when the goal is scored in the first 40 seconds.


The level of scrutiny Crosby has been under is pretty incredible though.  So many people just can't get past goals and assists.  I totally get it, that's what he's paid to produce, but he was a monster out there for a lot of the shifts I saw, only thing missing was getting the puck past the goalie (which is the most important I guess).


Anyway, I did see the aftermath and they made a pretty big deal out of Crosby having 47 career playoff goals, but that was his 1st career playoff OT goal.  Funny stat, Mario Lemieux didn't score a single playoff OT goal in his career.

#2675912 ECF : Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by toby91_ca on 13 May 2016 - 07:25 PM

The hit was bad enough, but the worst part of it was that he got his forearm up behind Letang's head and drove the head down into the boards.  Really dangerous, wonder if Letang will be back...huge blow if not.

#2675578 ECSF : New York Islanders vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by toby91_ca on 10 May 2016 - 08:25 AM

Hard to read Tampa.  They had a very easy road to the conference finals, because of the schedule, they were lucky to avoid both WSH and PIT.  You have to believe they'll be a huge underdog in the next round.  That said, they'll be the fresher team and they have a very good goalie, so anything can happen.  PIT still has a question mark in goal, we'll see how that goes, WSH can still come back if Holtby keeps playing like he did in game 5.

#2675577 IIHF World Championships

Posted by toby91_ca on 10 May 2016 - 08:21 AM

Secondary scoring is actually extremely important.  If you don't have it, teams will focus entirely on shutting down primary scoring and then you are toast.  It is pretty easy beating teams in the playoffs who have very thin forward lines. 

#2675353 ECSF : Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Washington Capitals

Posted by toby91_ca on 07 May 2016 - 08:42 PM

So, someone needs to explain this to me, I thought linesman were able to call major high sticking penalties.  Oshie gets a stick near the stomach and he snaps his head back, falls to his knees and grabs his face...absolutely disgusting, I understand embellishment, but absolute faking like that drives me nuts....back on topic, neither ref called anything, but then the linesman convinced them there was a penalty....but only 2 minutes, can that happen?


I'm guessing Oshie is getting fined tomorrow though, not that it will matter.

#2675297 Calder finalists

Posted by toby91_ca on 07 May 2016 - 09:31 AM

If you've proven yourself to be better than all the rookies (McDavid), I don't really have a problem with playing less games.  It's not like an MVP award where you can say "how can he be MVP if he missed so many games" - I don't think he'll win, because of the games missed, but I'm sure that's the thought process for people that voted for him.

#2675003 Kris Letang Facing NHL suspension hearing.

Posted by toby91_ca on 03 May 2016 - 03:52 PM

3 games based on what?  I know there are some PIT fans losing their minds he is suspended at all, pointing to similar hits their players have taken in this series alone and calling for Ovechkin to get suspended the next time he does something similar (which they say happens almost every game).  So, they are obviously biased, but do have a small point.


The rationale in the video was weird...no illegal contact with head, etc....explanation boils down to suspension due to interference...which is why some of them are losing their minds.


Honestly, I would have been fine with no suspension, but prefer a suspension as a point of ensuring people get the message...consistency is the main point I look for.  3 games for that would have been grossly inconsistent with past rulings, including one just a few days ago (Orpik).

#2670838 Playoff Bracket - Round 1

Posted by toby91_ca on 18 April 2016 - 09:20 PM

No, doesn't make it interesting all, makes it ridiculous.  Why give a weaker team a better chance because two stronger teams go against each other and have one knocked out early?