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  2. Athanasiou Rumor

    The "comparable players" argument isn't a good one, for a couple of reasons. First, there aren't many comparable players to AA. His goals/60 is INSANE. He's a complete outlier. Secondly, a 20 goals scorer (for example) on a team full of 20 goal scorers has less value than a 20 goal scorer on a team that doesn't have any. We need AA's offense more than the Penguins (for example) probably would. As a result we'll have to pay more. Ken Holland is trying this tactic and it seems to be sticking, but at the end of the day it's all about supply and demand. AA can supply goals in a league where that's important. The Wings NEED goals pretty badly, enough that they probably should just give the guy the 2.5 million he's asking for.
  3. Hossa's Career Might Be Over Already

    I thought you were mindfly. Its hard to keep up with all your banned accounts
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  5. Hossa's Career Might Be Over Already

    When you were mindfly?
  6. Riley Sheahan ( aka Mr Teletubby)

    Guy is a good young man. That's why its tough.
  7. Pre-Season Games

    Haha apparently? Hope Sheahan comes out on fire and that account goes crazy
  8. Riley Sheahan ( aka Mr Teletubby)

    Sheahan's unforgettable bond forged over the hardest times. https://theathletic.com/106444/2017/09/22/custance-sheahans-unforgettable-bond-forged-over-the-hardest-times/
  9. Pre-Season Games

    Fear the beard. Exactly we dressed an AHL team, And we knew pretty much that we were going to get lit up, Like you said the Hawks pretty much had their starting lineup minus Toews. As tonight we will have our starting lineup at the first game at LCA if we get lit up tonight against a Bostom team that will probably pretty much have their own AHL roster then yes we need to worry quite a bit.
  10. Ken Holland contract extension watch

    He didn't even do that job very well. Too many of the moves he's made over the last 6-7 years defy any sort of justification. He did nothing to help the team get into the playoffs handing out many of the contracts to the players he did.
  11. Hossa's Career Might Be Over Already

    The board collective doesn't like any Red Wings goalie for more than a few minutes at a time.
  12. Hossa's Career Might Be Over Already

    Wonder how deep they get into the conditions. Do they bring in doctors from Mayo Clinic or similar super specialists in that area? Almost like me and my insurance Dr says you could do X to improve the condition and the insurance company says nope not covered. NHL to Hossa sorry you can't go LTIR for an allergy to equipment sorry feel free to appeal would be the same thing
  13. Michael Rasmussen

    If the kid is able to bulk up and fill out that monster frame he has then he'll be a beast. Hopefully he hits the gym a lot over the next 2-3 years.
  14. Riley Sheahan ( aka Mr Teletubby)

    Just to be clear: I'd be ok with shipping Sheahan out. I just have a hard time seeing Holland doing it in September<-->December, unless he truly has no other choice. I can see Holland moving Sheahan at the trade deadline, assuming we suck this season and Sheahan doesn't have an especially good season.
  15. Riley Sheahan ( aka Mr Teletubby)

    3C isn't a position you would look to "solidify". It's a tweak you make, if needed, once you've got the important stuff covered. Like PVD, I think Sheahan has become superfluous with all the centers we have for the short/mid-term (and I even think Sheahan has the tools to be a better 3C than Helm), plus Larkin, Ras, AA, future picks and/or UFAs..., our center depth should not be an issue. If anything, we should worry about having too many 3C options without any good 1C options (and I think that probably is the fear of most). I had some hope that a switch to wing might result in a Franzen-esque emergence for Sheahan, but then basically the exact opposite of that happened. I don't necessarily want to just get rid of him for cap space. But if we can get that plus also some decent asset for a player who doesn't seem to have much of a role here going forward...
  16. Riley Sheahan ( aka Mr Teletubby)

    Even if Larkin and Z play together, I'd prefer Helm at 3C. Lark, Nielsen, Helm would still be ahead of him in my book. I agree Sheahan should be 4C to get him back into a position he's good at while he's still here. I just think there's better options for 3C , which is why I say ship him out. To put him at a place (3C) where he'd raised his trade value, you'd have to move 2 better canditates (Nielsen and Helm) to wing (where neither are great - Nielsen I don't really know) - I don't think that'd be a great option. As for how he plays into the future, we have Nielson and Helm for the next 5 and 4 years respectively as candidates for the 3C spot. As for the top 2 lines, you yourself said that Sheahan not going there, so why would we keep him around to hypothetically replace Z, Nielsen?. I think we're betting on Larkin, Rasmussen, AA(?) at this moment for those top 2 center in the future - plus future draft picks, of course. Keeping Sheahan around hoping he can be a fill in at 2C doesn't seem like it's worth it since I also don't think he's a 2C
  17. My fitbit #Fitstats_en_US for 9/22/2017: 7,050 steps and 3.1 miles traveled. https://t.co/8YeecvmLJM

  18. Riley Sheahan ( aka Mr Teletubby)

    I believe I said I "like" him as a 3C, not that he would be. As I said before, Nielsen should not be centering the 3rd line, IMO. Z is getting to an age where I think he should move back to LW. I like the idea of Z and a Larkin playing together so that they can be switched back and forth as Larkin will struggle at center at first. NIelsen centers 2nd, Glendening 4th, Sheahan 3rd. The Pens agree, which is why they are supposedly trying to acquire him.This is obviously not where Sheahan played last year. And I agree with you that that's why he struggled last year (which is why he should be moved back to C), and that he is paid way too much to be a 4C. The Wings best prospects aren't centers, so if they trade Sheahan, who do they have to play center when Z is retired and Nielsen's skills have declined? What if Larkin or AA end up as wingers? I don't have a problem with trading him now, but only if the deal is right which is unlikely because he has little value now. Why not put him back at center this year and increase his value for a trade later when we know we have the center position solidified for the foreseeable future?
  19. Pre-Season Games

    Not that it means anything for sure, but Booth played primarily with the Griffins and prospects during training Camp. The only time I saw him play with roster players was during the mixed scrimmage games. PAP on the other hand, practiced entirely with the roster players during camp. The impression that i got was that they were looking at Parenteau as a possible replacement for AA, and they were looking at Booth as a depth signing-either a two way deal or solely as a Griffin. I don't think they were looking at DB as a potential roster player, I think it was more of doing a Detroit native a favor.
  20. Riley Sheahan ( aka Mr Teletubby)

    Completely disagree. Sheahan is slotted as the 4C as is, since we have Z, Larkin, Nielsen slotted in front of him at center. I think Helm would definitely also be a better option as 3C. Sheahan struggled last year because we played him at wing (and he's not so good at the wing) because he got squeezed out of his role. To me, he has no place on the team in any forseable future - perfect trade bait. Also, anyone who complains about Glendening as a 1.8 4th line center should recognize that we'll have Sheahan at 2.075 this year if we keep him.
  21. Pre-Season Games

    Yep, its real and it's spectacular! (Shout out to Seinfeld)
  22. Ken Holland contract extension watch

    I apologize if this was already said ad nauseum (sp?) but I just couldn't go back and read all 10 pages of this topic. As to whether KH's contract should be extended really comes down to whether or not he is doing what ownership is asking him to do, not the fans. If so, then yes, he should be extended. If ownership wants to make the playoffs again and Holland makes moves to accomplish this, then he is doing his job, even if the fans want a rebuild. As much as fans hated KH delaying the rebuild for years in order to squeek into the playoffs and keep the streak going, that's what ownership wanted. They sign his paychecks, they have the ability to fire him, not us. I can never blame someone for doing the job that they were paid to do, even if I didnt agree with how they did it. Criticism by fans over the direction of the team was fair, but it was never fair to blame Holland for that. He had a job to do and he did it, I can't blame the guy for that. Some of his transactions on the other hand... Its the same with Bettman. He is booed and jeered at every event where there are NHL fans present, especially the draft. Yet, he is secure in his job because the owners are happy with the job he is doing, So what the fans think really doesnt matter, he doesnt work for you.
  23. 2018 Detroit Red Wing All-Star(s)

    IDK, I can't choose. If Howard is healthy, and plays regularly, then yes, I think he has a REALLY good year. If Howard is injured AGAIN and Mrazek steps up and takes and keeps the starting job, then I think he gets the nod. (less likely) I just can't decide, but I feel like this is one of those years (Hi Nielsen) that the Wings get a player in by default. And that whichever goalie is having the better year gets in, like Howard did a few years ago.
  24. Riley Sheahan ( aka Mr Teletubby)

    Those are exactly the reasons I'm not keen on trading Sheahan. He'll never be a top 6, but I like him as a 3C. Who else is there if he is traded. Nielsen is a 2C, despite what some say and would be a waste on the 3rd line. Same with Larkin. Z is stil a top 6 forward. AA may mature into a center someday, but he's a winger at this point. Helm was a good 3C for a while, but with his durability issues, those days are behind him. Glendening? Nope. Plus, the idea of the Pens getting their coveted 3C because of cap issues makes me want to puke. I would rather keep him unless its a trade that makes the team better, not a trade that solves cap issues.
  25. Athanasiou Rumor

    I guess it all depends on what your definition of "fair" is. The reason I say that 1.9 x 2 is "fair" is because its within 500K of what I perceive as fair market value. If I'm not mistaken AA is looking for 2.5-3 per? By my definition 2.5 is fair, but 3.0 is way high. Someone else's idea of "fair" may be different. That's fine, that's what debate is all about. I don't care if Holland is 10 mil under the cap or over, AA is not worth that much- regardless of cap implications. There are at least 6 forwards on this roster that I would play over him on the top 2 lines. He is a 3rd liner at this point. He has yet to prove to me that he can be a top 6 forward consistently. He has yet to prove to me that he can play center, which of course would warrant a higher salary. He has too many holes in his play at this point, and until I see a more rounded player, which I certainly hopes he becomes, he is worth somewhere between 1.9 to 2.5 to me. 1.9 is not "lowballing" - neither is 2.5 "overpayment". He may very well turn into a top 6 forward or even a 2C, and I hope he does- but right now he is overpricing himself IMO, and KH should not give in. And if AA wants to play sooner than later, he will have to give in. The Wings can afford for him to sit. Can he afford to not get paid? Not indefinitely, which is why if he was willing to come down to say 2.2, I think he would be signed by now. If he stays at 2.5 or over, he is going to end up with warm cushions on his sofa.
  26. Pierre McGuire on Wings-Tavares

    Self-awareness on Tavares' part. A somewhat too subtle insinuation that he isn't capable of being "the guy", and therefore should be looking to play second fiddle somewhere.
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