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Get a load of this WingsfaninMA guy.LGW's newest troll.welcome to the forums,bro. FYI,smaller contracts are a little easier to move than a contract like Gagne,hence the speculation of dealing bottom 6 forwards,which tend to have smaller contracts. Get your s*** straight before you get on here and try to poke fun.

Shortly after Osgood got sick, he started in a game against Nashville, and won 3-2. Who was in net THE NEXT THREE GAMES after that win? Do you honestly think Osgood was given much of a chance at that point?

A game. He had a stretch of 20+ games where he did not see the ice. Last I checked, that's not "getting a start to prove himself" and more "let's shut up the Howard haters".

Well, in Russia I bet "Ministry of Internal Affairs" is more frightening than lightning or hurricanes or even Panthers.

Amazing how much his english has improved since then too eh? I watch this one for the lulz.

Him not even having a Selke nomination is pretty ridiculous when you consider what he's done to the opposing team's star players time and time again.

We weren't exactly in the position to give him plenty of time to round into form last season, though.

Yeah but when given the chance a 6'3 hockey player should make a hit o the other team. Mule chooses not too alot of the time

What does his relationship with babcock have to do with him having a GAA over 3 for last season?

So what are you telling me? That this isn't a realistic trade or Chicago wouldn't do it because it's an in-division proposed trade? I fully believe this is a realistic trade and as far as in-division, remember March 23, 1999? The day Chicago traded Chelios to Detroit. I understand Chicago weren't contenders at that point, but they have their hands tied with their cap issues. Now is the time to take advantage of that. If the in-division part is the reason for your argument, then I fully understand. But Cleary has a NTC too. He'd have to waive it, this of course is assuming he would. But think about it. Chicago Receives: Dan Cleary, Derek Meech, Jan Mursak, 1st Round Pick (2011), 2nd Round Pick (2011) Detroit Receives: Patrick Sharp, 1st or 2nd Round Pick (2011) Chicago would pick up three players including a top-six or top-nine forward in Cleary that are equal to Sharp's salary, plus a pick. Detroit would land a top-six forward plus a pick. It is a trade that benefits both sides. Chicago then would have 19 Players signed for $60,457,701. They are expected to send Huet to the AHL, which relieves them of his $5.625 Million Cap Hit. At that point, the Hawks would have 18 Players signed for $54,832,701 and $4,567,299 cap space to work with. Detroit then would have 19 players signed for $56,742,045 with $2,657,955 cap space left to sign Helm and Abdelkader. Look at these lines for Detroit if the deal did happen. Datsyuk - Sharp - Franzen Zetterberg - Holmstrom - Filppula Hudler - Helm - Bertuzzi Eaves - Abdelkader - Miller/Draper On D, I think we have to throw Kindl in there. Like Ericsson last year, there will be some growing pains no doubt about it, but for Detroit in the long run, it will be good for them. And with that offense, you can afford to throw Kindl in there. Then at the trade deadline, you can acquire a D'man if Kindl isn't performing. They also have options that will be in Grand Rapids, such as Brendan Smith and Doug Janik. Of course, the Wings are set in goal with Jimmy and Ozzy. But both are free agents after the season. However, getting Sharp and being able to resign Jimmy is possible because Draper's $1.583M Salary is off the books. And if Ozzy did come back, he would accept a lesser deal. If he didn't come back, the Wings would most likely promote Thomas McCollum to the backup job, who is signed through 2012-13 at a cap hit of $816,667. Jimmy's Cap Hit: $716,666 Ozzy's Cap Hit: $1,416,666 Draper's Cap Hit: $1,583,333 ----------------------------- Total Cap Freed: $3,716,665 That would be plenty to resign Jimmy(say $2.25M Hit per), and Ozzy(say $1M) if he comes back. After this upcoming season, Tomas Tatar($870K) will be ready to join the Wings, taking Draper's spot. Jonathan Ericsson is also a free agent, and Nick may retire. If he does, then we'd look to the market. The best UFA D'man on the market next season is Chara, although there are RFA's such as Drew Doughty, Brent Seabrook, and Shea Weber, who the Wings could sign to an offer sheet and may get lucky. But that's a season from now. I'm looking to now. I think we'll end up signing Modano, but that trade I believe is realistic when you look deeper into it.

Well duh. They are our rivals, they won a Cup, sure we're upset… especially when their fanbase grasp a name eerily similar to ours. And put it on their championship video. Sorry that bothers you. Stop chanting "Detroit sucks" when we aren't in town, and we'll look into getting over this.

I empathize, but don't hate on a hearty buzz.

Haha, had many good times at Hall Road High. Have a good group of buddies back home in Shelby Twp. who definitely would be interested in checking it out.

I think it's ozzy's time. It seems like he doesnt have a place with the wings anymore.

I meant its not really about cap space because it isn't going to clear a whole bunch but its a start. Second, not trading Powe would be dumb. Theyre just going to give their RFA away without recieving some kind of compensation? What youre suggesting is that trading an extra bottom 6er or 2 isn't goign to help clear any cap space, which it will. Trading one of those guys could be the difference i them being over the cap or under it. Would it be better to trade someone with a 4 mil contract to clear space? yes Would trading a couple bottom 6ers and clear a million still be a good way to clear some space? For sure. as a wings fan and the tight cap we've had the last few years you should know a million dollars can be huge when calling up for injuries.

Oh I didn't realize he was an RFA, and it still wouldn't surprise me to see him either not signed or his rights traded since he's an RFA. Its not so much about clearing cap space as it is getting rid of an unnecessary amount of bottom 6 players. They have more bottom 6 guys then Detroit does right now and instead of paying 3 guys to sit in the press box they can save probably a million or so by trading 1 or 2 of them. Haha ok there Mr. 46 posts....

Seriously? Did Brad May and his 7 minutes per night through 40 games really keep this team from getting destroyed? If anything Red Wings are bigger and stronger than last year. Franzen will be back, Cleary should be the healthiest he's been in probably 2 years, Abby should get a full season. 5'9" Bett Lebda is gone. I don't know, but to me this year's Red Wings look stronger than last year. And who's to say Holland doesn't pick up a gritty scrub at camp. You know, someone who actually works for his chance. I doubt one guy who plays 7 minutes through 40 games is going to put this team over the edge in terms of "toughness" and "grit".

Yes because no one ever got injured from a random hit/fall. Oh wait, that happens all the time. Some people are just unlucky. And in this case it was also incredibly unnecessary.

Like others have said, this is pretty common. Those people overreacting make me wonder how closely they follow hockey.

I wouldn't go that far, Maltby was a 50 goal scorer in the minors.

Having the opportunity to watch Kyle Beach while he was playing for Everett, Lethbridge and Spokane i can definitely tell you that he's a complete meathead. His on ice antics get tired after a while, and a lot of the time he puts himself ahead of the team. He's been knocked out more than once for running his mouth. He's got a reputation and needs a coach that can really reign him in. The sad part is, just reading the thread title i knew exactly who the poster was referring to.

Eh no biggie in my opinion. Fighting happens, it's too bad he got injured though.

Lilja

Go away and leave him alone. Every team has their share of dumbass fans. If you don't believe me, spend more time on this site. Have to agree with this to an extent, though another mass exodus will cleary happen again due to Hossa and Campbell's overdone contracts.

he actually has 2 more of those vids