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Don't worry everyone. We'll make a move on defense at the deadline and fix all this s***.

I guess...its kind of surprising to me though that one man could have such an impact, especially when he's dealing with a veteran crew that should know what to do at this point without being given a ton of direction.

this team blows

This team needs a Charlie Sheen motivational speech.

Bulls***. How many more leads need to evaporate before McCrimmon is gone?

Lmao, actually eating a hot dog on cam... awesome

Helm: $16m 7 years. get it done kenny!

On the replay I saw the white ice. Still, it's frustrating when Homer gets called if he just farts into the blue paint.

Wouldnt attack avatars if I was you...Its a discussion not a Lidstrom bash, that doesnt even make sense.

If I had to put into words the way I feel about the Wings chances this season, I'd say I feel half caution and half excitement with fairly high expectations. Everybody may feel differently from one person to the next. I got to reflecting on how I felt about years past as far as I could remember in my years as a competently enough fan of the game. Feel free to share any memories you guys have from past regular seasons going into the playoffs. 93: More or less, "I'm going to watch one game at a time and just see how this goes." 94: I actually had really high hopes this year because of the 1st seed and everything. So sad. 95: Very much a feeling of, "This seems to be going really, really well... Hmm..." and then the Wings landed in hell. 96: Definitely thought they would win it all. Had very little, if any, doubts. And then it happened. 97: 20% cautious, 80% not expecting much. And then they won it all. 98: The same as 97, actually. Even though they were defending champs and the theme of that year was, "Believe." 99: I really felt they would three-peat. The 99 post season definitely pissed me off more than any other run for any of my sports teams. I got greedy big time. 00: Had a decent level of excitement but not much. Nothing exceptional. God I hate Colorado. 01: A little less excitement than what I had for '00. Ugh... Late night first round against the Kings definitely ruined some grades. 02: Haha. I actually felt like, "They better ******* win it all, dammit... Or else... (shakes fist)." So very sad after Game 5 against the Avs. But it all ended very well. 03: Wasn't excited at all for this playoff run. I remember how they didn't get the 1st seed and thinking something just didn't seem right. I was more excited about the birth of the Euro Twins. From what I remember, Fedorov was on fire that year and then he ran into Steve Rucchin. 04: I actually felt really good about this year. I really liked the team from that year on paper. But it wasn't to be. 05: Lockout. 06: I was fairly excited but also a tad cautious because I started to see how the Wings would get one of the highers seeds and then lose. 07: Cautious with low expectations. I was very impressed after this playoff run. The foundation of the team was starting to really emerge. 08: A very slow building feeling of shocking amazement as they year went on. "Wow... They could really do this and I can't think of a better team in the league," is how I felt. 09: Definitely believed they would win it all. 10: Very much a "One game at a time, let's see where this goes" kind of feeling.

I find it hard to believe too, also because McCrimmon played a very smart defensive game as a player and is often credited by Lidstrom as a great mentor when he first broke into the league. But the Wings literally went from years of great defensive hockey to years of lackluster defensive hockey almost over night between the 08 and 09 seasons... Coinciding perfectly with McCrimmon's hire. Hard to ignore that.

u might but not us. We use the NHL rulebook and that is boarding.

We'd be calling Abs dumb.

I want the 2008 defense back

After all the nice things we said about you, Jakub.

In short, NHL officiating is a joke.

Darren Helm:

Darren ******* Helm.

I went absolutely Berzerk when I saw that goal stood, because of what you just said. Players breathe on a goalie and they call goals back, but that was so obvious that the player deliberately stood his ground and did not allow Howard to get over to make a stop. It was out in white area and I understand the rule, but it was just infuriating, because far less has been called back. I hate the league refs. No wonder nobody watches the NHL. Average hockey fan out there would have seen that and said "how is that goal alloweD?"

The Phoenix player had the ice before Jimmy did. It really isn't interference. If that was ground for calling a goal off, then a goalie could just bump into an opposing player to get a goal called off or something. In Homer's disallowed goal, he did back up into the goalie.

Modano floats on offense, not defense. Bertuzzi also is a hectic back checker, it's just the cool thing to say he floats. With Mo's speed, and Bertuzzi's passing and Cleary's hardass work, that line could easily pot a goal tonight.

So... the person w/ a username and avatar honoring Datsyuk, thinks he should be the next captain. What a shocker. Z has been groomed for the role for many years now. Sorry. We don't even know if Lidstrom is retiring. Way to push the 2011 Norris candidate out the door.

I disagree; they're both good skaters, both good positionally, both have good defensive hockey sense, but Stuart has slightly more offense and a better first pass as compared to Phillips' bigger shot and better reach. Slight edge to Stuart as an all-around hockey player. Either way, though, the value isn't far apart and Stuart makes a good reference point to Phillips both in role on team and in price.

I hope Osgood gets back soon. We need him to either play good and take the starting job or play good and make jimmy raise his game.