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Connor Brown just signed a 3 year deal for 2.1/season so that should help the process with AA. He's the same age with similar stats. 20 goals and was actually one of their leading penalty killers

KH should try to move She (Pens could use him as a 3rd line center)... I guess/hope that we can get at least a 2nd rounder (they overpaid for Reaves maybe KH can do some work)... with moving She we should have enough money for AA. Mantha - Z - Tatar Larkin - Nielsen/AA - Nyquist Abdelkader - AA/Nielsen - Baby Bert Helm - LG - Kwitowski

Well since Nyquist / Tatar aren't at all similar to former Red Wings Pulkkinen / Jurco, that question makes no sense. How many Larkin/Athanasiou/Cleary/Andersson type guys can a team play in the 12 man roster (beer league roster?) to be successful?

Nyquist at this point could probably get us a top D prospect.

Pretty sure it's only Rich and LW. Everyone else is just willing to trade them for a top pair D, not just get rid of them. That said, Rich does kind of have a point. Maybe arrived there on accident for all the wrong reasons, but a point nonetheless. Nyquist is one of our better trade assets. Best I think, outside of Larkin, Mantha, and maybe AA. Free up some cap space, plus get a nice return like a high pick or good D prospect...certainly an option worth consideration. Depending on how the rebuild progresses, we may not want him back once his contract is up, or he may want to leave himself. Trade him for Haydn Fluery, sign AA and Vanek @ ~$2.5M each, call up Bertuzzi...Probably no worse short-term, and potentially better long-term.

Nyquist and Tatar aren't even close to the top of the list of problems the Wings have. I'm not sure why so many people complain about them. Is it just because people thought they were going to be studs, and now that they're not, people think they suck? Or is it some misplaced idea that you can get guys who can consistently score in the 45 point range for $3 mil a year?

Scored the second highest points on our team last year after Zetterberg. With only 76 games played unlike Tatar or Neilsen who both played all 82 games. If Nyquist isn't "that good" then everyone else below him on that stat sheet is trash. Talking out of ass to the next level. Nyquist is actually one of our best 5 on 5 players. The reason his "goals" have dipped is because our PP sucks and so does our PP coaching. But even strength wise he's really good. People are dumb enough to actually use his 13/14 season as a benchmark. That season was one of the most flukiest things in NHL and near impossible to achieve for anyone. If you look at a larger sample size excluding that outlier of a season.. This was at the midway point of last season: "Nyquist has actually increased his 5v5 points/60 from last season and is now a full 0.70 points/60 higher than his 2014-2015 season. Looking at the league leaderboard, Nyquist is 44th in 5v5 points/60, tied with Auston Matthews among all forwards with >250 minutes played at 5v5" Season 5v5 TOI/GP 5v5 Goals/60 5v5 Assists/60 5v5 Points/60 2014-2015 12:27 0.65 0.82 1.47 2015-2016 11:27 0.51 1.28 1.79 2016-2017 12:51 0.67 1.50 2.17 "Nyquist is averaging 1.90 5v5 points/60 which is 66th among NHL forwards with >500 minutes played over the past season and a half. That's the best mark of any player on Detroit (>500 minutes played)." Player Games Played 5v5 Points/60 minutes Gustav Nyquist 110 1.90 Dylan Larkin 108 1.86 Tomas Tatar 109 1.62 Darren Helm 94 1.40 Henrik Zetterberg 110 1.37 Justin Abdelkader 104 1.35 Pavel Datsyuk 66 1.34 Luke Glendening 109 1.14 Riley Sheahan 109 1.13 Brad Richards 68 0.84 https://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2016/12/12/13911624/defending-gustav-nyquist-again So yeah you keep Nyquist. It would be stupid not to seeing as how he's one of our best producers.

Just got the 2001 Playoffs CD, sealed, for 99 cents

Tatar is a good player and he's in his prime.

I would argue 90% of the people on this site are happy with the Tatar signing, and about 1% happy are happy if AA walk.

We've waited for a "fix" the last decade what makes you think they'll do anything at all. Hell half the guys on this site are happy about the Tatar signing and letting AA walk and remaining stagnant is what KH does best.