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I think that coaching, just like playing, is a process that (hopefully) evolves in a positive direction over time. Lalonde has never run an NHL bench before, so it stands to reason that there is going to be a learning curve for him just like there is for everyone else. There are definitely things that I can (and have) pointed out that rest more or less entirely on the coaching staff. But very few of my criticisms of the coaching can outweigh the fact that under Lalonde our offense, defense, penalty kill, and powerplay have all improved dramatically. Quite a bit of that is on the players no doubt, but take a look at how Edmonton started the season if you wanna know what great players with bad coaching looks like.

Ha you're right scott Hes just gonna have to learn when hes being retarded. s*** the guy has contributed anything of value in years.

This might be one of your worst hockey takes ever. The whole thing

Coaching is FAR AND AWAY our biggest weakness. I like Derek more than I like Jeff, but I'm not pretending in la la land that this guy is the solution. He's not, and we can do better. Maintaining failing lines for way too long. Going to bat for crap players like Petry. Trying to change Seider's game. The team playing completely bipolar. Turtleing in the 3rd... it's his first gig, but goddamn do I not like the way he plays this team. As I said before... YOU DONT COACH PLAYERS LIKE SEIDER. You let him play and thank god he exists on your roster. I'm starting to hate Derek more than I hate Jeff. At least Jeff was clueless enough to let his star players do their thing.

I dont want seider to be fine. I want seider to be great.

Do you remember the Alfredsson season? He led the team in points. 18G/31A. Dragged them into the playoffs. Zetterberg and Datsyuk were very unhealthy for the 2nd half of that season. Richards and Modano were total failures tho for sure.

That business on Kato Nemoidia?