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BUT WAS STAMKOS A CENTER OR NOT?!

Fedorov was a wing on the Russian 5 line. Plus he also played D. Does any of this have anything to do with The Yzerplan? We have 2 pages of arguing about who played C and now plays W. This could be it's own thread.
Yzerplan. I, as well as most people, tend to give Yzerman lots of leash and lots of passes because he's such an icon here. If Holland were still GM, we'd (still) be calling for him to be fired if he made the same moves or lack of moves that Yzerman has. Especially after this past TDL. While I don't really have too much of a problem with his plan so far, but if you think of a couple of other teams that were also rebuilding the same time we were (Rangers, Canucks, Devils) we are still way behind in our rebuild. Although Rangers and Devils have been gifted 1st overall and in some cases, multiple #1s, and top 4s. But nonetheless, we are still way behind them despite having top 10 picks the last 6 or 8 years. Holland absolutely killed us with Zadina. Vancouver drafted ahead of us the year prior and just behind us the Zadina year. Not going D that year was the most...nevermind that could be yet another thread! Point being, they were rebuilding the same time we were and now look at them compared to us.
I'm not convinced Lalonde is the guy to lead them either. My biggest question with the plan was, why did he keep Blashill around so long? That makes me afraid that he'll just keep Lalonde around far, far too much longer than he should. Obviously we weren't there when he was interviewing coaches, so we don't know who he called or who wasn't interested. It just seems Lalonde was the guy no matter what. IMO there were at least 3 better choices. Larionov, Fedorov and Grönborg. Fedorov being the wildcard. But they didn't call Igor The Professor for no reason. Nobody thinks the game like he does. Again, maybe these guys weren't interested, but to me, it just seemed like Lalonde was his guy from the start, and he wasn't going to consider anyone else. I would've liked to have seen a coach that was new and had ideas that 31 other coaches don't already have. There's nothing special about Lalonde. Nothing that sets him apart. 
And my one gripe about TDL. I think Roslovic could've and would've been an upgrade to our top 9 and think most definitely he would've been worth the 4th(3rd) that Rangerd paid for him.
 

https://www.nhl.com/lightning/player/steven-stamkos-8474564
I emailed NHL.com and let them know Kip said Stammer is a Wing.

1. Should not have traded Hronek
2. Should not have traded for Petry
3. Should not have signed Holl
4. Should not have traded for Kostin
5. Should have sold Ghost, Perron, and Sprong
6. Should not have traded up for Cossa
7. Should not have hired Lalonde

Derek: "I loved our effort in Arizona"
>we lost 0-4 and played like garbage
Derek: "I thought we had a really good first period"
>Outshot 19-7 by Vegas
This is guy is either fuqqing delusional, or he's a terrible coach. Because a good coach would be honest and hold his team accountable. 
Blash 2.0 players friend wannabe. We're never winning dick wth this Ted Flanders at the helm. 
 

Why's that? The only difference in their games is that Point scores marginally more. Which is to be expected when you play your entire career on a Cup contender with Nikita Kucherov as a linemate. Larkin's been on a rebuilding team his whole career and until this year his best winger was Tyler Bertuzzi. Otherwise they're extremely similar players both in style and in production.

I'm mad we didn't SELL. 

But he literally said he didn't feel the price of dealing away top prospects and picks was worth any player he could've picked up at the TDL. So are you mad he didn't make these trades to get top 6 or top 4 talent or are you mad he kept Berggren instead? I understand the frustration of lessor players in the NHL while top prospects are in GR. But Berggren has been called up and he isn't going back. If he plays 4 more NHL game's he loses waiver exemption and Yzerman, again, literally said in his presser that he didnt plan on bringing him up to only play him to the threshold (3 games) and send him back. He's here to stay. So that covers one of the top prospects that you're referring to. In regard to the last 3 years 1st round picks, ASP and Danielson aren't quite ready. Kasper is in his 1st year in the AHL and Yzerman said yesterday that he couldn't say no for sure that we won't see Edvinsson this year in Detroit. He's in GR to learn how to run a power play, lead the D, and learn how to be a top 2 guy. He's pretty much ready, so if not sometime this year, next year for sure. I went over all this in the TDL thread. We're all a bit upset that teams around us went all in and we just cleared a roster spot. But that spot is now filled by Berggren. Plus I can appreciate him not throwing 15-20 years of the future away for rental help now. If that means fall out of the playoffs this season, oh well. It beats selling off our top picks and prospects to squeak into playoffs. AKA Ken Holland 2.0.

I'll be shocked if this isn't a blowout

I am going superstitious route haven't won since garbage patch on jersey  

That'll happen when you lose the only good center you've had on the team since Henrik Zetterberg retired.

What better way to let your team know you have no faith in them than to let every other team in the division improve while you stand pat. Good call Steve.
Also, can we learn to f*cking pass or no? I know I've been beating this drum all season long but watch how we pass. We don't even attempt to pass tape to tape. Nada, just the ol' Jonathan Ericsson special...fling the puck into space and hope one of your guys gets to it first.

There's a part of me that wants us to lose the rest of our games just because I know that's the only possible way to get the trash patch removed.

Thankfully we've got Edvinsson to come in and take the hard minutes for Seider soon enough.

Seider and Walman looked terrible last night, and that's before you factor in all the goals they gave up. Lazy passing, bad penalties, out of position. They got exposed. Both of these guys are great dmen but they cannot handle a full season of the opposition's best without wearing down it seems.

I think that's it for me. If the Wings want to make a comeback, I'll see the highlights tomorrow.
These announcers that over react, I can't take it! When you play sports, like I have for years, you need keep your emotions in check, and not get anxious 

Holy Crap - the # of REd Wing fans in the audience!

I say we call up Kasper and throw him right into the fire as the 1c

trade winds are blowing now!

Winless in the Priority patch era.  No sir, I don't like it.  

The next time we play these guys I'd dress Kostin and start every guy on the team that can fight. This makes me crazy. Florida does this every single game they play and our guys are getting roughing penalties. How?
If you're going to get penalized anyway just line brawl off the opening faceoff and let them play the rest of the game without a couple of their pests.
 

BARF
https://www.wxyz.com/sports/red-wings-unveil-first-ever-jersey-patch-sponsor-priority-waste?fbclid=IwAR35pFS7ETvjpVfl0eAVy9R0HqxDrvqnwUocKbvNbZGLP28ItarHsPxYlbU
but i am old and don't like change ....what's next a 3rd jersey?
Where the H*LL did I put my meds.....

*Applause dies as Dumbledore beings to speak*
"To house Avalanche, your bravery and determination, throughout the 90s and early 00s, despite the Red Wings superior dynasty, is both an act of true courage and true willpower. I award you 50 pts for each Stanley cup you've won....150 POINTS!"
*WOOS AND CHEERS*
"To house Red Wing, young master Yzerman's brilliance during the rescue of house Bolt was both daring and noble... But perhaps nothing touches our hearts more than his compassion to retrun to his muggle home of Detroit to do the same. I award you 50 pts for each time Stephen Yzerman has touched the cup....150 POINTS!"
*WOOS AND CHEERS*
"And lastly, to the wealthy and distinguished house of Leaf, your majesty knows no bounds. Your legends echo through these halls. And now your window is open again, and you have one of the most talented and dominant teams in the entire league. It is for these accomplishments that I will award you the generous gift of ONE HUNDRED points for each time you have beaten House Coyote on home ice since 2005..."
*WOOS AND CHEERS"
"ZERO POINTS!"