IllinoisRedWingsFan

Trade him now and get something good for him. All his nifty puck handling hasn't done s*** at the NHL level and it's only going to become more difficult once we move east.

You don't realize what helm TRULY brings to this team, aside from being the best 3rd line center in the nhl, he brings a lot of energy and heart every shift, every game. Every line literally plays better when he is in the lineup, he just causes everyone else to play better. Ever noticed how deflated we became against trashville when Helm got injured in the playoffs in his first game back, ya I believe that we lost the series as soon as Helm fell on that skate.

Nyquist must really start getting pissed at this. By the time he is a regular, he will be too old to qualify for the Calder

I wouldn't spent 1 cent on acquiring Perry let some other team throw away their cap space for him. Rather wait longer until something worth going after is available and Perry is not that player.

Ya, I said in my first post yesterday that the only way I would be ok with dealing our 1st is if we got a their 1st back (which should be a lower pick, but with the players available, we should still get a nice player.) But I agree, I do not want to just give our 1st away either...
You are correct about the $6 and you may be right about the $8, but as soon as Holland realizes he needs to spend real money to get real talent, then this team will start it's turn around much quicker. Enough overpaying old guys and low balling the guys we actually need...

OP's suggested rebuild would all but guarantee a lottery pick.

If Bertuzzi's back is bad enough to hold him out all season, Holland better consider a buyout on him and hopefully he retires.

It might not be the best idea of a fair trade but your name kinda gives away your attitude about losing nyquist. I think there is something there around fil and perry with us adding a first rounder and decent prospect. Perry is the kind of player we NEED. Hard nosed and scores a butload. I'd be willing to overpay in that case. Not 8.25mill but in the ballpark of 7.5millper over a long term deal.

Anderson- Helm-Tartar
Coming April 2013

Can't wait for Helm. Having him and Tootoo in the line-up at the same time will give us a physical presence we haven't seen since probably 2008. Should be fun to watch.

One period. IMO a summer of hard training will help Tatar and Nyquist. They both have all of the skills, but a little more strength on the puck and in the corners would help them immensely.

Happy to have helm back but too bad it's at the expense of nyquist. I mean in all honesty helm should be playing with nyquist and Tatar to make up the deadliest 3rd line in hockey

Helm, full speed ahead!

...if Cleary is re-signed, frick this team! Talk about taking up a roster space from someone who deserves it...Holland needs to be fired if he re-signs Cleary....period.
Say goodbye to Dats if Holland does nothing to make this team better and Dats is stuck playing with garbage like Cleary...
$4.5M is fine for Filppula. I don't see why the Wings would say its too much, it's only $1.0M more than his salary is now. In my opinion any lower would be a low-ball. Flip can get $5M on the market easily...

Epic melt down. f*** Babcock and f*** holland.

That delay of game call is THE worst penalty in hockey. So subjective, yet no room to breathe.

Someone PLEASE take this NBC broadcast and show it to Kenny regarding EVERYTHING that they have mentioned about Franzen!!!
Edzo tore him up pretty well on that PP.

I'm sorry, but I won't stop complaining about Abby and Cleary until one or both of them are off Pavel's line (and the PP).
It's costing us offensive zone play, Datsyuk magic, points...

Is our second PP unit really Franzen, Tatar, Abdelkader, Kindl and Smith? WTF,

Great offensive prowess by Cleary, looking for the worst angle on net.

Can we ever clear the damn zone????

Be nice if Zetterberg would show up. He must be stuck in traffic or something.

Sounds like Pierre likes Franzen about as much as we do.

Abby's stats are indicative of his career here.
Guy is expendable as s***, yet Babcock promotes him to the second line. What a joke.

Not enough chances on goal. Crawford could have taken a coffee break during the period and not missed anything.