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  1. martyrme19

    Mike Milbury is at it again

    Yes, this would be the correct, logical and rational way to respond to the situation.
  2. martyrme19

    Mike Milbury is at it again

    Do you even understand hyperbole? Because you're continuing with it. It's an extremely low mark of intelligence.
  3. martyrme19

    Mike Milbury is at it again

    The fact that you think using hyperbole is an effective argument is embarrassing for you.
  4. martyrme19

    Mike Milbury is at it again

    Strange theory. Doesn't seem to check out.
  5. martyrme19

    Mike Milbury is at it again

    I don't enjoy Mike Milbury, but he's 100% right here. What he said ISN'T bad. You're naive if you claim otherwise. There's no way you can operate in this world and truly be offended by what he said. If you acted that way in your own day to day lives, you wouldn't last. No one would take you seriously. We all know what he meant by it. And hell, it's literally the damn truth! You all realize that, right? These athletes are, by in large, having an immense amount of interaction with women before, and after their games. There's literally nothing wrong with that. No one is saying there's anything wrong with that. He's bringing to light that in the bubble - that's all changed and by consequence, some of that time will now be focused on hockey. Since they're broadcasting a damn hockey game... anything that brings attention away from hockey, in this context, would be a distraction. And no emotionally intelligent woman would feel as if it was an insult. Because it's literally not. Right now, I'm distracting you from doing something productive with your time. And you ass clowns have distracted me from doing something productive with my time. The ass clown is the insult. A distraction is just describing the situation. It isn't inherently good or bad. The thing that sucks is, when we all turn the TV off - literally no one's lives were changed by what he said. NO ONES. But we get to rant online about being "offended" so we can all sit here and smell each other's altruistic farts. Then when we're bored with it, we literally move on with our days and no one gives it a thought because again, no one was effected by it. We get to leave it behind. Meanwhile, we've just upended a human beings livelihood. A livelihood that has effected not just him, but his entire families. And we have the luxury of not having to care about that. Convenient for us, isn't it? I guaran-*******-tee you, if you had to witness the actual emotions and feelings that a family had to endure when their lives are upended like this, you wouldn't be so quick to call for someone's head. You wouldn't have this false sense of accomplishment and pride for yourselves. You'd realize that s***....maybe this wasn't an equitable punishment. But no, we are all able to turn are heads away from that reality. They got their just desserts, let's move on to the next one. It's absolutely sickening and appalling that we've created a culture that can do so much damage with a clear conscious. And that's the most dangerous part of all.
  6. Tatar + a 3rd rounder for Joe Veleno, Robert Mastrosimone, and Alex Nedelijkovic, Yes.
  7. martyrme19

    2021 Buyout Thread

    Minnesota just bought out Parise AND Suter. Parise was obvious, but I'm pretty surprised about Suter. He was usually 1st or 2nd TOI in the playoffs has been pretty consistent. Their contracts were identical so their buyouts look like this: 21-22: $2,371,794 22-23: $6,371,794 23-24: $7,371,794 24-25: $7,371,794 25-26: $833,333 26-27: $833,333 27-28: $833,333 28-27: $833,333 Man - I remember when these guys were the number #1 and #2 FA's that season. We had just lost Lidstrom and Stuart. I felt like it was a lock to get Suter and a chance at Parise too since we were still lacking some firepower. I thought it was a certainty one of these guys would've come to Detroit because I still thought of us as hockey royalty and we had the cap space..... Then it comes out that Minnesota signs BOTH. I remember thinking.....who the f*** signs with Minnesota!?? How the hell could Holland be so inept to not be able to sway one of these guys to sign here over Minnesota?? They began touting how Minnesota was now a force to be reckoned with from here on forward. Then the contracts come out and I remember thinking even back then......these contracts are going to age so terribly. I completely understood why we lost the bidding war and I was happy for it. However, I STILL thought Minnesota was going to be a great team for awhile. How did that turn out? a total of 2 first round victories 5 first round exits 2 postseason misses. Man....things did not turn out well.
  8. martyrme19

    2020 Offseason

    Don't forget about the conversions from US dollars to Canadian! How did I straw man? I don't think you understand the word you just used. In addition to the front office, I mentioned the owner specifically. I'll try to reword what I said. If you still don't get it, I'll type in caps lock for you to see if it helps. The NHL, like all major sports, is a competitive sport. Meaning teams will always look to create and exploit advantages they have. If we happen to have an owner who has a better cash flow than another owner, that's an advantage. People accept that in sports. Any owner in the NHL, NFL, NBA etc is well aware of these advantages or disadvantages when buying a team. No one questions it. In any case, there are already measures that help hedge this. The salary cap serves two purposes. One is to save the owners money, the other is to narrow the gap between what a heavy spender can pay, and what a low spender can't to create parity. Nobody except for you for some sad reason cares or thinks it should be completely even. If something drastic happened to the Illitch family's empire tomorrow - would you expect the NHL to stop and say, "hey guys, we all have to spend 25mil less so that the Illitch family can catch up and it's all fair." I sure hope not. Teams have inherent advantages and disadvantages. That is all a part of pro sports. Key word, pro. Not commy. There's nothing you can do about that. Some players might only want to play in warm weather year round. How can Detroit compete with that? Florida doesn't have a State income tax, how do we compete with that? Some players love the spot light and media attention like New York, Toronto, Montreal. How do we compete with that? Some players like anonymity and don't want to be recognized when they go out to eat. So how do we compete with Arizona? Some players want to play in big thriving cities. How do we compete with NY, Chicago and LA? The point is, you can't go around life worrying about every little thing trying to make it fair because whatever you try to correct today, someone will just move the goal post tomorrow and say something else isn't fair. Professional sports was never made to be fair. There's youth hockey for a reason. go cheer on some peewees.
  9. martyrme19

    2020 Offseason

    Are you kidding me? Absolutely. Why is it fair? Because the team isn't just the players. A team also includes coaches, scouts, executives and owners. All of them have to perform to get the best product on the ice. In Detroit, we've loved the Illitch family because they've performed. All of the other owners have an equally fair opportunity to be as successful as our owner. What a dumb question.
  10. martyrme19

    2020 Offseason

    Lol - are you implying that the other owners aren't capitalists? The NHL is literally a capitalist business. What a strange, strange take. If you can't refute the narrative that the Wings bought their cups, then you haven't done your research. In 96', We had an amazing amount of drafted talent (14) (Yzerman, Fedorov, Lidstrom, McCarty, Kozlov, Konstantinov, Lapointe, Dandenault, Holmstrom, Pushor, Eriksson, Kocur, Osgood, Knuble) 1 guy off waivers (Doug Brown) 1 salary dump (Larry Murphy - which we likely only took on because of Ramsey's sudden retirement) 1 player dump (Draper) And some bold and shrewd trades: (7) Shanny - Paul Coffee, Primeau and a 1st Larionov - for Ray Sheppard Maltby - Dan Mcgillis Fetisov - 3rd round Vernon - Steve Chiasson Aaron Ward - Paul Ysabaert Tomas Sandstrom - Greg Johnson We signed a grand total of 1 free agent - Bob Rouse. The next year was much of the same with the obvious subtraction of Konstantinov and Vernon (We drafted Kevin Hodson and Norm Maracle) Traded for: Mironov - for Jamie Pushor Macoun - 4th rounder Only UFA we signed in the offseason: Brent Gilchrist The narrative only holds in 02 - but that roster was a spectacle so I'm completely fine with it. 07-08 A lot of the same characters plus guys we drafted that we're familiar with so I wont get too into it but: Traded for Chelios, Stuart, Hasek Signed: Samuelsson - he was a nobody before he signed with us, not a big signing Cleary - he got a contract with us only after he was invited to camp when he received no other offers Rafalski - This was a big signing. We're still allowed a signing like this and not have it count as "buying a cup" Dallas Drake - This was his swan song. He was previously put on waivers and we signed him for 550k so not a big signing (plus technically we did draft him!) So ya, the buying the cup narrative is just flat out wrong. We were able to retain a lot of our talent that we drafted, but that's not "buying" a cup. Not to mention, many teams every year try to buy the cup. They spend money and the roster never comes together. So it isn't all about money. I remember in the 90's and early 2000's the Rangers were spending money like crazy but they could never put together a winning formula.
  11. martyrme19

    NHL Diversity

    Oh hey guys. I'll jump in this fight if ya'll don't mind. Two things that I want to clarify before doing so: 1) First would be my anecdotal life experience with the black community. My long time significant other is black, I'm white. I'm very well entrenched in her family/community that reside, for the greater part, in South Chicago. She is also the co-founder of the business we own together. The business is a financial service that disproportionately benefits from our services. I don't want to get into too much detail because I don't want to dox myself. I should say that we also employ a good number of black people as well. 2) I've learned that when entering topics of debate like this, it is crucial to define certain vocabulary and agree upon it. Clear cut, I define racism as the belief that someone of another race is intrinsically inferior to you or other races. If you two want to define it in any other way, please let me know. CRL - If I can summarize, you asked SP if the past atrocities by white people is the reason for the issues they face today. I believe the answer is yes and no. Obviously you cannot deny that many black people wouldn't be here if it weren't for slavery. And those that would be, would have done so of their own accord and likely more successful than average. The continued oppression that black people faced certainly kept many of them from reaching their potential in life and caused their communities to be more prone to toxic However, I do not believe that those past hardships are experienced by today's black society. I believe your point is that because of the past, you surely cannot expect Black America to be any better off than they are now. I would agree, but to a much less degree than you, I am sure. With all of my life experiences and knowledge, what I believe is this. Though it's obviously true that the black community has suffered in the past, those hardships have little to no bearing on a black person's day to day life right now. I believe, however, that during those hardships, there are a lot of voices in those communities that speak up about many different ideals, cultural norms and mores. It is up to that community to decide which voices to listen to and follow. Unfortunately for the black community, they have made a lot of critical mistakes by choosing to listen to the wrong voices. Now, this could literally happen to any other group of people put in the same situation. I don't believe they are predispositioned to make these bad choices. Hindsight is 20/20. But these choices that are made over decades have created a disproportionately toxic culture that has now turned on itself so much that it is the number one thing impeding black advancement. I know this because the people who abide to and succumb to today's black culture do not thrive. Rather, they parish in terrible ways. The one's who often reject those ideals and norms (such as my significant other) very often thrive and become successes. Then, they are excommunicated from black society and culture. You keep calling CP racist. But I bet you that he's never insulted a black person to their face (or online or whatever have you). I bet he's never told a black youth that 76% of this country hates him and wants to keep him from succeeding. I bet you he's never made a black youth feel discouraged about how successful he can be in life. But, I bet YOU have. You make asinine assumptions about the majority of American's and project yourself as a neutral voice for White America. You lift yourself up in life by beating other white people down. You're different than everyone else, right? Special. Everyone is racist except you. You belong to a small elite class that isn't racist. How convenient that the standard you've built in your head to measure your success and worth as a human is completely based on something that you and you alone can arbitrarily and ambiguously measure. People like you tell a young black boy how much White America hates him, how they want to see him addicted to drugs and thrown in jail before he's even 18. He believes that 76% of people hate him before he's ever met any of them. You spout your agenda as if it's gospel. It's easy to do since your fight is so selfless, right? There's no accountability for you whatsoever because if your intentions are right, what harm could you be doing? Human nature is to hate those that we believe hate us. If it's your life duty to spout off to black people how much they're hated, that will only create animosity. Blacks will believe they have to fight back, not live amongst. White people see them fighting back....trying to bring their way of life down (a life where they never wished harm on anyone). They now believe that black people must assuredly hate them. You've now created your self-fulfilling prophecy. You've created hate. With your message, black people can never self-reflect and come to the realization that only they can change the toxic parts of their culture. That more than what any other white person can do for them, they can make the most change in their live's by their actions and their actions alone. I believe people like you are the ones who create the biggest divide between races. But there is no way to convince you of that. The scariest thing is a person who causes harm with a good conscience.
  12. martyrme19

    Pride and Player Sexuality

    Dude banged my buddies gf. So......
  13. martyrme19

    One of the best signings ever

    Jesus Christ dude...... Ya, reading the rest of your are flat out insufferable. Fans have negative opinions on signings all of the time. No one agrees on every contract or signing. To think there won't be some fans who don't like the Daley signing is insane. Which you are. Daley has played in 69% of the games here in Detroit. Performance aside, that stat alone will get people bitter on the signing. And considering the fact that Daley played in only 56% of the games the last 2 seasons......comparing him to Nemeth is shortsighted and clearly agenda driven. You're insufferable. Reflect on your personality and become a better person.
  14. martyrme19

    News From Around the NHL *Mod warning page 75*

    I agree. I loved our first two but that last one was waaay off reservation.
  15. martyrme19

    Blash replacement story

    Yzerman will fire Blashill and name himself coach. Genius move. He will then fire Chris Illitch and become owner of the Red Wings. Genius move. He will then become majority owner of Little Caesars Pizza. Genius, Genius.