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Howard is rightfully so the starter going into the season, but I wouldn't be at all shocked if Mrazek returns to form and steals the starter role once again. Here's to hoping...

From what I've read Vilardi was ranked higher for the most part, better upside. I don't hate the Rasmussen pick, but I don't really like it a lot either. I think if Holland really wanted Rasmussen he could have trade back a bit, or maybe even swapped the pick and Nyquist or Tatar for a good young D

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Ken Holland kicked some tires, but ultimately the price was too high to draft Owen Tippett

Seems like Mrazek wants out and him or his agent told holland not to protect him in the hopes of Vegas taking him.  There is obviously no market for him right now so here's hoping he has a huge bounce back year and settles down. 

The hand wringing over​ losing Nosek reminds me of the reactions to losing stars like Ferraro and Nestrasil

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I'd like to see us pick up a 2018 1st for Vanek. Then we will have two 1st rounders and two 2nd rounders for next year. Take Svechnikov and Dahlin in the first round.

Sounds like Sharp may be injured.  If this is true, it will really sky rocket the market for Vanek

2018 2nd is good.  Supposed to be a deeper draft. 

Great job here by holland.  I wonder if holland gets offers for green now... he could be an attractive piece for a lot of teams. 

Great job here by holland.  I wonder if holland gets offers for green now... he could be an attractive piece for a lot of teams. 

Kypreos just said for 2 2nd rounders on hockey central 

Rangers and wings working on a deal for Smith per mckenzie 

Rangers and wings working on a deal for Smith per mckenzie 

We must be thinking about two different Sergei Fedorovs because the one I'm thinking of had ten 30+ goal seasons, two 100+ point seasons, a Hart Trophy, and three Stanley Cups.
Datsyuk is slicker, not better.

bleacher report = /thread

Was kinda dirty but Reaves will learn. If you want to make it in a league as a tough scrapper type and youre only 5'8 you learn to do things to keep guys off your back. You make a clean hit and a guy challenges you for it when hes twice your size why should you stand there and let him go to town on your face?
Definitely a dirty playre who has cleaned up his act quite a bit, but its perfect to combat the blues dirty play. I'm hoping its Jackman and Backes that get it first

Yeah, because having Tootoo will suddenly give Blues fans a reason to hate the Red Wings.
I hope his first dirty moment comes at the expense of Jackman.

Ken doesn't wanna part with any of his future Hall of Famers to get him, so I don't even see Bouwmeester as a possibility anymore. Sign Vandermeer and start the season, already.

Smith will complement Kronwall nicely, screw Jblow.

Smith will complement Kronwall nicely, screw Jblow.

Smith will complement Kronwall nicely, screw Jblow.

So the NHL has been around since 1917....almost 100 years.....and thousands of fighters have taken to NHL ice in that time, and you have a list of 6 players???? I know there have been a couple of unusual tough guy deaths recently....but those deaths are just that....NOT USUAL. And most of those suicide deaths were guys who struggled with addiction, not to mention you have no idea what other problems besides addiction that they were dealing with in their personal lives as well....yet you wanna pin the whole suicide on the fact that hockey allowed him to get hit in the head a lot? Sorry but even if I was anti-fighting I would still call this a very poor argument.
The enforcer system was the best system out there. It was run and facilitated by the players and coaches themselves and worked better than the system in place today. Enforcers made sure dirty crap didn't happen and if it did you got punished for it. Then the enforcers also had their own little side game...which was the heavy weight bouts that were just as much for the fans as they were for themselves...You had big name fighters like Probie and Domi who would square up just to see who would win that round and prove that they are the bigger, tougher, better fighter....you would have thought they hated each other but they actually had huge respect for each other....these were big, tough, nasty.....yet honorable men
Nowadays guys are running everyone, slamming heads into boards, hitting to the head, flopping, the list goes on and on. And the NHL keeps trying to make more and more and more rules to stop it....but you can't stop it. Let the players handle it, they did a better job at handling it than the NHL has, despite their best efforts. Let them handle it, they know best... instead we have baby-proofing do-gooders stepping in and telling them how to play their own sport. In the players poll last year it was something like 99% of NHL players said fighting should not be removed from hockey....they want fighting just as much as the fans do. It has a place....even in this post-lockout league.
And don't get me started on your fighting versus hitting argument....by your logic we would have to remove hitting as well....anddd just as many if not more health concerns arise from hitting, just not as many to the head.

His 24 goals and 29 assists for 53 points last year in 82 games says otherwise. And he only got 64 points the year prior with 26 goals in 80 games.
So Franzen outscores him for goals, last year he got a whopping 3 more points than Hudler and in the past 2 seasons, hip point per game percentage is the same as Flips, who so many guys are willing to trade along with our top prospects for Ryan.
Heatley's value has plummeted.