datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted March 29, 2007 Datsyuk is one of those players that I hope to follow in Stevie or Nick's footsteps and retire in the Winged Wheel, without ever having another nhl jersey on. I also hope Zetterberg is in that catagorie. i'll drink to that. :chug: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 Exactly, and make it a package deal with Draper. Include Toronto in the mix with a guy who's last name starts with a T... Nah, Draper having a no-trade clause and wanting to remain in Detroit, and management (I'm assuming) happy wtih him as a Wing, doesn't mean much to keep some idiots from suggesting to trade him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) Include Toronto in the mix with a guy who's last name starts with a T... Nah, Draper having a no-trade clause and wanting to remain in Detroit, and management (I'm assuming) happy wtih him as a Wing, doesn't mean much to keep some idiots from suggesting to trade him. Trade Draper and Datsyuk for Tucker and Nik Antropov. I hope we all see the sarcasim there too. Edited March 30, 2007 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 Savard is one year older, and has twice hit 90 points in his career. He has a higher GPG, APG, and PPG. Datsyuk's career high in points is 87. Datsyuk's only advantage is plus-minus, which is skewed due to his career with Detroit while Savard has spent most of his time starring on bottom feeders. If Dats is using Savard's deal as a benchmark, he can't seriously expect more than 5.5m given how he compares to Savard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 He is not looking for 20 mil. Surely he is in for more. I do think that he should make Savard money but we will have to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 If Dats got the same 4 yr 20 million deal as Savard I would be thrilled, he deserves a raise, though not to 6-7 million, but 5 mill is a good number for him in my opinion. Especially seeing as he has stepped it up since Hank went out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyuk_13_fan 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 Savard is one year older, and has twice hit 90 points in his career. He has a higher GPG, APG, and PPG. Datsyuk's career high in points is 87. Datsyuk's only advantage is plus-minus, which is skewed due to his career with Detroit while Savard has spent most of his time starring on bottom feeders. If Dats is using Savard's deal as a benchmark, he can't seriously expect more than 5.5m given how he compares to Savard. Datsyuk is a good defensive player, Savard is not even close to being one at all, if we want to compare them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommie2 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 God, I am tried of the bashing of our best player (look at the numbers and the rankings). So, does that mean Shanny, Yzerman and Lidstrom are all playoff choking experts too? PERHAPS, JUST GOD DAMN PERHAPS there might be a reason while all those players failed to produce in the playoffs in the same time period. Hmm, let's think. How about coaching for one - talking Dave Lewis here? That leaves last year And Yzerman sees Datsyuk as our future. Let me get this right, some of you know more about hockey and hockey players than Stevie ******* Yzerman? This isn't about being a homer for Datsyuk, this is about commen sense. This team without Datsyuk would be hard pressed to make it INTO the playoffs. I dont know if I'd go that far but I'm about ready to say give him what he wants, after tonights game(2-1)! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stactum 4 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 I dont know if I'd go that far but I'm about ready to say give him what he wants, after tonights game(2-1)! +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blgillett 48 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 agreed ...... 5 million is nothing , if he was to hit the open market he would easily get 6-7 from some desperate team There is no way anybody is going to pay him 7 mill in this day and age. He hasn't performed in the playoffs yet. I know he wants this kind of money but the fact is no team can pay him that much for only performing in the regular season. I would guess he will sign for around 5.8. This could change if he has a big playoffs this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 There is no way anybody is going to pay him 7 mill in this day and age. He hasn't performed in the playoffs yet. Luongo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heretic69 10 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 Savard is one year older, and has twice hit 90 points in his career. He has a higher GPG, APG, and PPG. Datsyuk's career high in points is 87. Datsyuk's only advantage is plus-minus, which is skewed due to his career with Detroit while Savard has spent most of his time starring on bottom feeders. If Dats is using Savard's deal as a benchmark, he can't seriously expect more than 5.5m given how he compares to Savard. I'm not a math major, but I'd say you're wrong. NHL Totals 580 155 338 493 NHL Totals 358 107 216 323 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDDYGIBBY5 1 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 I'm not a math major, but I'd say you're wrong. NHL Totals 580 155 338 493 NHL Totals 358 107 216 323 I have to agree, I'm not a math major either, but my calculator says that you are correct. Dats has better GPG, APG, and PPG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) God, I am tried of the bashing of our best player (look at the numbers and the rankings). OK, so let's say we don't have Datsyuk. Would there not be another guy brought in here to take his place on the roster? I don't mean a call-up. I mean a bona-fide star player? [Assuming Holland did his job]. Now if you're saying we minus Datsyuk out of here and didn't sign someone else to fill his spot, of course, there'd be a big hole to fill. You're not making sense. Datysuk is NOT worth 7 million! Actually, give a GM 6 MILLION to spend, and he could easily find a few guys worthy of such a contract. Just when the hell did Pavel become the best deal in the NHL? AT 6 or 7 million? That's funny. Luongo. If the jury is still out on Luongo's worth as a "franchise player" and a 7 million dollar tag, then it sure as hell is still out on Pavel's. I bet there's more than a few GM's who would take #1 over #13. Edited March 30, 2007 by motorcitykid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 Datsyuk's only advantage is plus-minus, which is skewed due to his career with Detroit while Savard has spent most of his time starring on bottom feeders. If Dats is using Savard's deal as a benchmark, he can't seriously expect more than 5.5m given how he compares to Savard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMatt89 63 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) I'm gonna go out on a limb here. Datsyuk is the most creative player in the NHL. His moves are insane..you cannot predict what he's going to do to make the opposing player look stupid. When You think he has no more room, he'll dangle and make room. When theres no openings, he'll make one..When theres no room to pass..He'll put in through the smallest of holes to his teammate. Now, If Joe Thorton was quicker, and more agile, I'd say he's the most creative.. If Datsyuk scores one playoff goal this year..I say give him 5.5 mil. I wouldn't go higher than 6. Now the only problem we might face in the future..is Zetterberg. He's going to want top dollar as well for being the one of the best players in the NHL. He's also more consistent and more versitile than Datsyuk..and He has 9 playoff goals..in 3 years. Datsyuk hasn't put one in for three years while having a third of Zetterberg's amount in twice as many games. And Zetterberg being my favorite player...I hope we can afford them both although I doubt Z will be as greedy and headstrong as Datsyuk and his agent. Edited March 30, 2007 by CMatt89 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest paveldatsukthenextsavard Report post Posted March 30, 2007 now everyones gonna think my username is talking about marc savard. it's denis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lidstromrules16 7 Report post Posted March 30, 2007 now everyones gonna think my username is talking about marc savard. it's denis. guilty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsfan4life19 26 Report post Posted March 31, 2007 http://www.spectorshockey.net/ NO NEW CONTRACT FOR DATSYUK BEFORE SEASON'S END? DETROIT FREE PRESS: Helene St. James reports Red Wings GM Ken Holland "plans to touch base with Pavel Datsyuk's agent early next week, but there is little chance a contract will be done before the regular season ends Thursday." Nine Red Wings are eligible for UFA status this summer: "Forwards Robert Lang, Todd Bertuzzi, Kyle Calder, Kirk Maltby and Datsyuk; defensemen Mathieu Schneider, Danny Markov and Chris Chelios, and goaltender Dominik Hasek. Forward Jiri Hudler can become a restricted free agent, and the team almost certainly will re-sign him to a qualifying offer or a longer-term deal." St. James believes Maltby could be a "last minute signing", that Lang and Schneider likely won't be back, that Chelios will be re-signed, and that Bertuzzi, Calder and Markov likely won't get offers until after the playoffs when Holland has had time time to evaluate their post-season performances. Spector's Note: Datsyuk's playoff performance will also have a bearing on his contract talks. If he's a playoff "no-show" again, Holland might just wash his hands of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted March 31, 2007 http://www.spectorshockey.net/ hopefully this doesn't price datsyuk right out of detroit. if he does well this post-season he's going to be very expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted March 31, 2007 I doubt Holland will "just wash his hands" of Datsyuk. Please.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earthhuman 8 Report post Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) The article does state that the $5 million that Savard makes is a "starting point." From there, Datsyuk is only going to look for more incentives. $100,000 for every playoff goal, anyone? So in the end... $5 million (that's with incentives). Edited March 31, 2007 by Earthhuman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted March 31, 2007 I doubt Holland will "just wash his hands" of Datsyuk. Please.... I know. And to some around here, Spector is like GOD? Not to say i'd mind Holland actually doing that if Pavel disappears again this April. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted April 1, 2007 Datsyuk is a good defensive player, Savard is not even close to being one at all, if we want to compare them True. To speculate that the huge +/- disparity (+33 to -18) is merely due to the respective teams they play for is absurd, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 1, 2007 If Datsyuk wants 7 mil , I say let him go and get Drury or Briere I like datsyuk , one of my favs but not worth 7 mil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
