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#1 WingedWheels

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 11:41 PM

Scouting Report: Dominik Hasek
Posted by Ansar Khan July 23, 2007 06:00AM
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With so much to prove last season, Dominik Hasek showed that he still has the drive to be the best, that he's still hungry for a championship and that he could avoid groin troubles that dogged him the previous two seasons.

He'll head into what is likely his final season with the same questions. Will he still be motivated? And, can he make it through two straight seasons relatively healthy?

Hasek was bitterly disappointed after the Wings loss to Anaheim in the Western Conference finals, feeling his club was better and should have won. He spoke like a man with unfinished business and believes this team will have just as good a chance to win the Stanley Cup next season. So there is little doubt he wants to win badly.

But, what are the odds that a guy who turns 43 in January can once again make it through the season healthy? It wouldn't be such a bad thing if he missed some time in the regular season as long as he's healthy in the playoffs. Once again, the Wings will do what they can to minimize the risk by not overworking him and not playing him on consecutive nights.

His legendary work ethic hasn't declined a bit and he's still as intense as ever. He's not as quick or as acrobatic as he was a few years ago, but on this team, with its puck control and strong defense, he's not going to face a lot of shots.

Hasek is still one of the best goalies in the league and the Wings were fortunate he came back. Beyond his abilities, he brings a level of confidence that is contagious. His teammates know they have a goalie who won't fold under pressure in the playoffs, and that's huge.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 11:53 PM

QUOTE(WingedWheels @ July 23, 2007 - 11:41PM) View Post

His teammates know they have a goalie who won't fold under pressure in the playoffs, and that's huge.


Ouch... my sympathies to Chris Osgood, Manny Legace and Curtis Joseph.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 11:57 PM

QUOTE(Collin Lane @ July 24, 2007 - 12:53AM) View Post

Ouch... my sympathies to Chris Osgood, Manny Legace and Curtis Joseph.



Osgood did win a cup for us and Legace got a bad rap... I can't defend Cujo though
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 12:13 AM

Legace was the only one who folded in the playoffs. Osgood and Joseph had fine playoffs. Ozzie's won a Cup and always kept us in it and Joseph is the only reason we went anywhere a few years back. Our best player. But hey, it's the media, I'm not shocked.
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 12:29 AM

QUOTE(brubs42 @ July 24, 2007 - 12:57AM) View Post

Osgood did win a cup for us and Legace got a bad rap... I can't defend Cujo though


O god Cujo.........the only memorie i have of him was i belive in the playoffs when the puck was dumped in right at him and he went to handle it and it went right passed him and in the net and he was way out of his crease!........god if any one could find that video that would be great

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 12:38 AM

come playoff time, i've felt more comfortable about hasek than anyone else the wings have had in the past, lets see, 8 years?

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 12:56 AM

[quote name='WingedWheels' date='July 23, 2007 - 09:41PM' post='1130192']
Scouting Report: Dominik Hasek
Posted by Ansar Khan July 23, 2007 06:00AM
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Hasek was bitterly disappointed after the Wings loss to Anaheim in the Western Conference finals, feeling his club was better and should have won.


WE SHOULD HAVE!!! That series was 100% an up hill battle for us!!! We earn our goals, and the ducks got theirs on silver platters!!! Scotty off Nic's stick still huants my dreams!!!

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 01:18 AM

QUOTE(brubs42 @ July 24, 2007 - 12:57AM) View Post

Osgood did win a cup for us and Legace got a bad rap... I can't defend Cujo though

You have it exactly the wrong way.

Cujo played great in that Calgary series... we never lost because of him. Think about it. We had two consectutive 1-0 losses. How exactly is that the goalie's fault? Sounds more like scoring problems to me...

Legace, on the other hand, folds like a tent come playoff time. He did it in the Nashville series in 2004, and the Edmonton series in 2006. That's twice in a row he bombed out. He's not getting a bad wrap at all. Any criticism he gets is all true, as he was just plain awful for the Wings during the playoffs.

If the Wings had a decent goalie during the 2006 playoffs, I really think we could have, at least, beat Edmonton. Maybe not win the Cup, because we also lacked grit, but we should have gotten past the first round. Legace is the reason why we lost to Edmonton that year, hands down.

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 02:23 AM

^ ^ agreed 1000000000000000%

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 02:36 AM

QUOTE(Kp-Wings @ July 24, 2007 - 07:18AM) View Post

You have it exactly the wrong way.

Cujo played great in that Calgary series... we never lost because of him. Think about it. We had two consectutive 1-0 losses. How exactly is that the goalie's fault? Sounds more like scoring problems to me...

Legace, on the other hand, folds like a tent come playoff time. He did it in the Nashville series in 2004, and the Edmonton series in 2006. That's twice in a row he bombed out. He's not getting a bad wrap at all. Any criticism he gets is all true, as he was just plain awful for the Wings during the playoffs.

If the Wings had a decent goalie during the 2006 playoffs, I really think we could have, at least, beat Edmonton. Maybe not win the Cup, because we also lacked grit, but we should have gotten past the first round. Legace is the reason why we lost to Edmonton that year, hands down.


absolutely...

2006 team should have won the cup...they were better than anyone else by a country mile, and Legace cost us...


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Posted 24 July 2007 - 05:09 AM

Can't wait to see how this goalie war thread turns out... biggrin.gif

Anyways, Hasek should adopt me as a nephew and give me lots of money as a reward for being a good relative, just for fun. wink.gif

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 05:14 AM

god i wish everyone would get their heads out of their ass when talking about legace and the edmonton series. People seem to forget, or wish to just turn their heads to the fact that we just got outplayed against edmonton. They out worked us, out played us. plain and simple. Nobody showed up to play that series. Need we forget that until this year, Datsyuk was pegged as a no show for playoffs? Now I never jumped on Datsyuk for that, but everyone else around here sure did. And I can safely assume that if Legace was given another year, chances are he would have done well, since he did consistently well in the regular season, and everyone here would shut their yaps about how legace is the worst thing the world has seen since pimento loaf.
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 05:19 AM

QUOTE(martyrme19 @ July 24, 2007 - 05:14AM) View Post

god i wish everyone would get their heads out of their ass when talking about legace and the edmonton series. People seem to forget, or wish to just turn their heads to the fact that we just got outplayed against edmonton. They out worked us, out played us. plain and simple. Nobody showed up to play that series. Need we forget that until this year, Datsyuk was pegged as a no show for playoffs? Now I never jumped on Datsyuk for that, but everyone else around here sure did. And I can safely assume that if Legace was given another year, chances are he would have done well, since he did consistently well in the regular season, and everyone here would shut their yaps about how legace is the worst thing the world has seen since pimento loaf.

Pimento loaf? Damn, I gotta try that! laugh.gif

Seriously though, while Legace certainly did his part in helping seal the Wings fate that series, I understand what you are saying. The only three people who showed up that series were Yzerman, Zetterberg, and that other guy who's initials are R.L. (I'm afraid to say the full name as the thread will turn into a ***** fest about "work ethic" instead of Hasek as it was intended for).

Edited by SouthernWingsFan, 24 July 2007 - 05:19 AM.


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Posted 24 July 2007 - 06:41 AM

Cujo was definitely not the problem in 2004...he played well enough in that series, but didn't they only score 6 goals in that series and lose Yzerman to the eye injury? I don't really care that he's gone but the blame wasn't all his

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 06:45 AM

QUOTE(Kp-Wings @ July 24, 2007 - 02:18AM) View Post

You have it exactly the wrong way.

Cujo played great in that Calgary series... we never lost because of him. Think about it. We had two consectutive 1-0 losses. How exactly is that the goalie's fault? Sounds more like scoring problems to me...

Legace, on the other hand, folds like a tent come playoff time. He did it in the Nashville series in 2004, and the Edmonton series in 2006. That's twice in a row he bombed out. He's not getting a bad wrap at all. Any criticism he gets is all true, as he was just plain awful for the Wings during the playoffs.

If the Wings had a decent goalie during the 2006 playoffs, I really think we could have, at least, beat Edmonton. Maybe not win the Cup, because we also lacked grit, but we should have gotten past the first round. Legace is the reason why we lost to Edmonton that year, hands down.


I agree with all that except to say that Legace was the only reason we lost to Edmonton. I agree that he was the biggest reason, but none of the guys played well that series except Z and would you believe Robert Lang. We were clearly lacking the passion that we showed this year. I think that we were just outplayed by an Oil team that wanted it more.

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 06:56 AM

QUOTE(chrisdetroit @ July 24, 2007 - 07:45AM) View Post

I agree with all that except to say that Legace was the only reason we lost to Edmonton. I agree that he was the biggest reason, but none of the guys played well that series except Z and would you believe Robert Lang. We were clearly lacking the passion that we showed this year. I think that we were just outplayed by an Oil team that wanted it more.


Which other Western Conference team scored more goals than the Wings against the Oilers that year? We were outplayed in some games, but not to the point that we should've lost. Legace wasn't the sole reason, but he let in goals he NEVER would've let in during the regular season.
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 07:54 AM

QUOTE(Heaton @ July 24, 2007 - 07:56AM) View Post

Which other Western Conference team scored more goals than the Wings against the Oilers that year? We were outplayed in some games, but not to the point that we should've lost. Legace wasn't the sole reason, but he let in goals he NEVER would've let in during the regular season.


Very true, its wasn't just him, but he had a big part in it.
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 09:27 AM

QUOTE(Kp-Wings @ July 24, 2007 - 12:18AM) View Post

You have it exactly the wrong way.

Cujo played great in that Calgary series... we never lost because of him. Think about it. We had two consectutive 1-0 losses. How exactly is that the goalie's fault? Sounds more like scoring problems to me...


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Posted 24 July 2007 - 09:56 AM

QUOTE(Kp-Wings @ July 24, 2007 - 02:18AM) View Post

You have it exactly the wrong way.

Cujo played great in that Calgary series... we never lost because of him. Think about it. We had two consectutive 1-0 losses. How exactly is that the goalie's fault? Sounds more like scoring problems to me...

Legace, on the other hand, folds like a tent come playoff time. He did it in the Nashville series in 2004, and the Edmonton series in 2006. That's twice in a row he bombed out. He's not getting a bad wrap at all. Any criticism he gets is all true, as he was just plain awful for the Wings during the playoffs.

If the Wings had a decent goalie during the 2006 playoffs, I really think we could have, at least, beat Edmonton. Maybe not win the Cup, because we also lacked grit, but we should have gotten past the first round. Legace is the reason why we lost to Edmonton that year, hands down.


You hit is right on the head! I even remember Babcock saying after the fact that he would have replaced Legace with Osgood in the Edmonton series if he were 100%. I would have loved to see that!

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 10:25 AM

QUOTE(HuntsVegas Baby @ July 24, 2007 - 08:56AM) View Post

You hit is right on the head! I even remember Babcock saying after the fact that he would have replaced Legace with Osgood in the Edmonton series if he were 100%. I would have loved to see that!


People can knock Oz all they want but the fact remains that he's still clutch when we need him. I think the Preds games he won in the second half of the season prove that.
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