YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Lindros? Carter? O'Neill? Friesen??? ...Are you guys actually serious??? This team has MORE than its fair share of guys that *might* put up 20 goals in a season. At this point, Id take Sammy and/or Franzen over any of those guys. You keep on tossing out 500k here, 650k there, and it starts to add up. Like somebody else said, RYDER, DOAN, and FORSBERG are the only names mentioned in this thread that are of any worth. You know what youre getting with those guys and theyre all bona fide top 6 talent. Anything outside of guys like that is a complete waste of roster and cap space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Shane Doan? Who would want that guy? Not like he was Team Canada's frikkin captain or something. Oh wait, he was. Should come cheap then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 I'm confused... isn't Igor a lefty? How did the original picture come about? Is Igor ambidextrous like Gordie was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Holland isn't going to sign anyone that's still availble. Player wise, I like guys like Lindros, Friesen and O'Neill a lot more then I like Samulesson, but all 3 of those guys come with uneeded emotional baggage (especially O'Neill). 2 of the 3 haven't had a productive season in a long time (Lindros and Friesen) and O'Neill is inconsistant and, again, is kind of a headcase. As far as mentioned trades like Ryder and Doan: this team doesn't have s*** in the way of trade bait. The Wings are currently the definition of a 1-line team right now, and, contrary to popular belief, guys like Samulesson and Meech are not going to land you Shane Doan. The rookies, like Hudler or Filppula, are also both playing terrible hockey right now, and aren't going to fetch anything either. Any trades that would be made for guys like would have to include players like Kindl, Helm, Quincey, Brenden Smith, and a whole heap of high drafts picks. Holland has proven by his track record post-lockout that he isn't willing to give a lot, so a big trade is pretty much out of the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Noodle 39 14 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 OMG that is one of the scariest things i have ever seen... lol All those years he was our rival in Colorado and the many times he owned us... hasen't left my mind completely yet.. and seeing Forsberg in our uniform gave me the shivers lol.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDDYGIBBY5 1 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 First off Eklund makes things up out of thin air. The other day on XM204 he said that the Leafs were looking to deal Kaberle. This suggestion is beyond absurd. Kaberle is their best dman and he's a bargain at under $5M. If anyone is getting dealt from T.O. it's Kubina or McCabe (yes i know that McCabe has a NTC, but I seriously think McCabe would consider getting out of town due to his whipping boy status). Anyway, I don't think Montreal has any intention of getting rid of Latendresse anytime soon. Not only is he young, tough and talented but he's also French-Canadian. I highly, highly doubt the Habs have any interest of getting rid of a kid like that unless someone like Kronwall is coming back in return. The Habs would have to get someone of exceptional Then give them Kronwall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Then give them Kronwall. Habs don't need another def - they have Gorges and O'Byrne (in minors)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 (edited) AMEN! If I were a betting man - I'd say Holland won't do anything until the trade deadline; it'll give Hoodlum, Filppula extra playing time, & a chance to prove their worth. As for Latendress I gotta agree with HANK - a skilled Francophone won't be moved in Hab Town unless there's a equally good player coming back in return; however we need a French-Canadian or 2. I could be wrong, but I believe each Cup Detroit has won has had @ least 1 French-Canadian on it They are not going to move Latendresse - we could have him instead of Abdelkader but who cares... he's too big for our standards. I would like to have MALONE or BELL - without all his issues - Malone would be best option... Can we have Milan Lucic??? He's a beast!!! Edited October 20, 2007 by Dominator2005 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Habs don't need another def - they have Gorges and O'Byrne (in minors)... Well, that's kind of like saying we don't need a second-line scorer, we have Filppula and Hudler. Who might evolve into that role, and we're all hoping they do, but there's no guarantee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Well, that's kind of like saying we don't need a second-line scorer, we have Filppula and Hudler. Who might evolve into that role, and we're all hoping they do, but there's no guarantee. O'Byrne will play this season in Montreal... Don't forget that they have Dandenault as a forward... so they have 8-9 def who can play in NHL right now Markov - Komisarek Brisebois - Hamrlik Streit - Bouillon Dandenault Gorges - O'Byrne - Cote - Biron Why do they need another DEF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spongewingredpants 75 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 went shopping too. bought an IPod Nano for my buddies burthday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turretin 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Holland isn't going to sign anyone that's still availble. I love posters who talk about Holland in absolutes. Unless you're freaking Ken Holland, comments like this shred your believability. Point: No one has even mentiond Teemu. He's what I think of as perfect. He could mentor Flip and score goals. Plus, I love his attitude. He'd be my #1 choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 I love posters who talk about Holland in absolutes. Unless you're freaking Ken Holland, comments like this shred your believability. Wow, way to overeact over one little comment. Tell me: if you were Holland, would you sign the dead weight players in free agency just because? These guys don't have a place to play for a reason. Their either miles over the hill (Lindros) or have bad attitudes and off ice problems (Friesen, O'Neill, Carter, Forsberg). I highly doubt Holland has any interest in these guys. Hardly any teams do, otherwise, they'd have a place to play right now. Point: No one has even mentiond Teemu. He's what I think of as perfect. He could mentor Flip and score goals. Plus, I love his attitude. He'd be my #1 choice. I'm sure many of us would like Selanne, but why would he even want to come here? Name me a reason, other then the supposed "him and Filppula are good friends". I don't think he wants to play anymore. If he hasn't made up his mind about playing to this point, it seems to me that he's not going. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a fan that has no believability because I speak in absolutes, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 I'm sure many of us would like Selanne, but why would he even want to come here? Name me a reason, other then the supposed "him and Filppula are good friends". I don't think he wants to play anymore. If he hasn't made up his mind about playing to this point, it seems to me that he's not going. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a fan that has no believability because I speak in absolutes, right? Exactly. If he wanted to continue playing hockey, he already has a team. And they actually aren't too bad, either. Why would he want to come to the Wings? Am I missing something here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 I'm sure many of us would like Selanne, but why would he even want to come here? Name me a reason, other then the supposed "him and Filppula are good friends". I don't think he wants to play anymore. If he hasn't made up his mind about playing to this point, it seems to me that he's not going. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a fan that has no believability because I speak in absolutes, right? Exactly. If he wanted to continue playing hockey, he already has a team. And they actually aren't too bad, either. Why would he want to come to the Wings? Am I missing something here? He actually doesnt technically have a team since hes not under contract to the Ducks. Either way, no reason hed want to come here. Unless its about a paycheck that the Ducks cant give. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 (edited) ...people we are talking about Holland here. He'll make a move that is latteral. He'll get Franzen back and say that it was like getting someone... ...for my money, Fedorov and Forsberg are the cheapest and, really, only logical solution. Right away your 1 scoring line turns into 3 with a 4th line grind unit... ...Hudler for Feds, tell Nick to talk to Forsberg... Edited October 20, 2007 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 ...people we are talking about Holland here. He'll make a move that is latteral. He'll get Franzen back and say that it was like getting someone... ...for my money, Fedorov and Forsberg are the cheapest and, really, only logical solution. Right away your 1 scoring line turns into 3 with a 4th line grind unit... ...Hudler for Feds, tell Nick to talk to Forsberg... Even the current day washed up Fedorov is going to garner more then Hudler. Especially considering how bad Hudler has played this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Even the current day washed up Fedorov is going to garner more then Hudler. Especially considering how bad Hudler has played this season. ...I must agree with you on that one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted October 22, 2007 I wouldnt mind O'neill, but no to Yashin. He's in Russia and good riddance. Yashin is playing in Europe because no NHL team would pay his lazy a$$ what he thinks its worth. No way he signs for 500k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Enforcer 13 Report post Posted October 23, 2007 Trade Draper and Grigorenko for Doan. Easy trade to make.............................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2007 This photo is SO unrealistic. Everyone knows that Grigs wears #21 and I don't see Forsberg having any right to take it away from him. Then give them Kronwall. I'd go for that too. Im part of that minority too Hank. I love the way the Wings have drafted throughout there history, but it's not like guys like Milan Lucic and Jared Boll are first rounders or anything, I want guys like that in our organization. And on the subject of Lucic, I love how he plays, he's everything I like in a hockey player, big, tough, can score goals and can chuck the knuckles. Boston got a steal with him in the 2nd round, as for Boll, I like him too, he was a later pick, but he can throw his fists and is a great defensive forward (as is Lucic). Amen brother! I love Lucic! I would give up half our prospects for one of his kind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earthhuman 8 Report post Posted October 23, 2007 I'd take Oneill for sure or Doan, offer up in some deal any of these players: hudler, flip, kopecky. Lilja, Sammy. I'd hope for the last three to though. Here we go... How about [Player that we want to get rid of anyway] for [kid that everyone else in the league knows is gonna be a superstar one day, too] or [star in the game already]. Think of it this way- if you were Phoenix management, would you give up Doan for Kopecky, Lilja, and Sammy? That's the Joe Thornton trade on a smaller scale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted October 23, 2007 I guess he is not shopping for Floppa anymore: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/rumors/post/Se...F?urn=nhl,50344 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted October 23, 2007 Here we go... How about [Player that we want to get rid of anyway] for [kid that everyone else in the league knows is gonna be a superstar one day, too] or [star in the game already]. Think of it this way- if you were Phoenix management, would you give up Doan for Kopecky, Lilja, and Sammy? That's the Joe Thornton trade on a smaller scale. Why not? In return they'd get a possible 40 goal scorer who has a rocket for a shot, an enforcer, and a young player with tons of potential and size that makes smaller players cringe at the thought of getting hit by him. If I'm Phoenix I make this deal in an instant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) Trade Draper and Grigorenko for Doan. Easy trade to make.............................. You forgot to show your sarcasm. There, I got your back, bro. Edited October 23, 2007 by T.Low Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
