Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 I said this another thread, but the Wings have yet to play an important game of hockey since they beat the Pens last year. Thursday will be their first, and if they don't come out with a bit of pizazz, then I may begin to worry. I think there is some truth to this. This may be the first time this season that the Wings actually have their backs against the wall. Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cern 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 I dunno. Beyond maybe 10-20 minutes a game the Wings play as though the don't care if they win or lose, why should I anymore? Just end this s*** and hope a team, ANY team but the Ducks goes all the way. I'm so sick of seeing the Wings get embarassed by Anaheim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cern 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 You neglect the very real possibility that if the Wings played like they cared for more than ten minutes at a time we probably wouldn't be down 2-1 in the series in the first place. I never this season would have predicted a situation where it's everyone BUT Osgood who need a kick on the ass. As infuriated I was with the denied goal, the Wings shouldn't have allowed it to be a game-breaking decision in the first place The way they're playing right now, they don't DESERVE to win the series, let alone the Cup. I'd be ******* embarrassed for the league if their caliber of play was sufficient to go all the way. So f*** it, if being dealt a triple overtime loss didn't light a fire in them nothing is going to. Right now all I'm holding out for is that with Hossa undoubtedly moving on we integrate some of our younger guys into more permanent positions on the roster next season and hopefully get a bit more on-ice enthusiasm going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted May 6, 2009 We're jumping refs, not ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 Rule number 1 in sports forum posting: Anything that is written before 3 hours after a loss (let alone a bad one) is considered null and void hah its so true ... my ice coach always said we can NEVER talk about the game until we come back to the ice the following day .. time to cool down and think LOGICALLY for a sec .. breathe .. its going to be okay .. WINGS IN 6!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 I have to be honest.. the only thing that angers me more than the crappy no goal call is the attitude of 90% of this forum right now. Yes, it sucks that we lost the game when it should've been tied and that the Wings, once again, failed to come together in the first half.. but holy cow. Are you a fan of this team or just a fan of the W? You guys are acting we have no chance at all. Where's the faith? There's people on this forum saying the series is over and we should pack it in. I mean... really? What fan does that? Look at these threads. They're pathetic. We're so used to winning that when something like this happens, we want to throw our team under a bus one by one and watch them burn. We have a whole thread dedicated to bashing Datsyuk. DATSYUK of all freaking people. We have a thread calling for HOLMSTROM to be benched. Yeah.. the best goalie screener in the league - benched. Grow up, LGW. It's 2-1. It's the freaking WINGS. How many times have we seen them fight back with such intensity that we all had to sit back and say "That's my Wings". I love you guys, but my goodness.. be a fan of the damn team. Stop jumping ship and acting like the city is about to burn down. It's not. And if you think WE are feeling the pressure, imagine how the teams feels - and imagine what it would be like to find out that your "fans" have started trashing you because you lost two games in the playoffs. Knock it off. Well here's the thing, let me start by saying that this is a forum where people share there thoughts so technically whatever they write it's there opinion and what there feeling. Now let's be honnest I don't care how many times Wings have come back to win when down 2-1 in the series this is not then. Hossa's been a ghost, Datsyuk started to show the bright light ... we've got Holmstrom that's playing terrible and the supposed suspension that there accusing him of wouldn't be bad. We've got an injured Defensemen. The best line has been the Zetterberg line. The only guys playing amazing with the Wings are: Osgood, Stuart, Zetterberg, Franzen ... *Datsyuk (if he continues like yesterday) that's pretty much it ... rest of them have been mediocre at BEST. Truth is we're down 2-1 and we've still got one more at Anaheim ... seems like we're the underdogs now not only we've got to beat the Ducks but also the reffing. I am a Wings fan for life ... but NHL is the worst organized sport in the world and has the worst reffing I've seen in any sport. I'll always be a Wings fan ... but NHL fan ... probably not for long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 Wings fans just has to hope that Babcock can work the refs in the media and during the games to hope we get a make up call--keep planting that seed that the Wings were in fact jammed by Watson. It happens all the time... Also, perhaps Rafalski will be back in the series and provide some more scoring punch from the back end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevotron 3 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 Billy: I'm scared Poncho. Poncho: Bulls***. You ain't afraid of no man. Billy: There's something out there waiting for us, and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoDakWing 8 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 How many times are the Wings going to be f**ked over in a game by an early whistle? I can remember a goal in Chicago that got called off for an early whistle. (atleast that ref admitted that he f**ked up). It's dumb and I'm pissed at the officating not the game, had the officiating been there it would of been atleast a game that headed to OT. If we lost like that I'd be ok. But getting screwed over by the ref on the gtg I'm pissed and will remain that way until they tie the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 Wings fans just has to hope that Babcock can work the refs in the media and during the games to hope we get a make up call--keep planting that seed that the Wings were in fact jammed by Watson. It happens all the time... Also, perhaps Rafalski will be back in the series and provide some more scoring punch from the back end. This. Karma will turn around. All the Wings have to do is play third period hockey for 60 minutes and they'll be fine. A little adversity can push them over the hump. No worries unless they come out flat in game 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellarina 1 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 My first instinct is to HULK OUT and fire all my employees, which are Hab fans. Hopefully Drapes and Raffi come back for game 4. At the very least let Drapes on the ice wrap his stick around Gets-laughed-ats face and take a suspension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 I think the Wings can still do this. And I have to say at first I was thrilled when they kept pounding Ducks against the boards and taking them out whenever they could. But I'm thinking it's distracting them from playing their usual game. They have GOT to get their rhythm going on getting the puck, moving through the zone, passing, and setting up in the Ducks' end. And they can't do that if they keep going out of their way - even a little bit - to pound away. And it doesn't really seem to be having that much of a negative effect on the Duck's game. It's kind of like having an enforcer out there. You thrill to see your guy pound somebody, but meanwhile there's a game going on and rhythm and potential goals are lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 I have to be honest.. the only thing that angers me more than the crappy no goal call is the attitude of 90% of this forum right now. Yes, it sucks that we lost the game when it should've been tied and that the Wings, once again, failed to come together in the first half.. but holy cow. Are you a fan of this team or just a fan of the W? You guys are acting we have no chance at all. Where's the faith? There's people on this forum saying the series is over and we should pack it in. I mean... really? What fan does that? Look at these threads. They're pathetic. We're so used to winning that when something like this happens, we want to throw our team under a bus one by one and watch them burn. We have a whole thread dedicated to bashing Datsyuk. DATSYUK of all freaking people. We have a thread calling for HOLMSTROM to be benched. Yeah.. the best goalie screener in the league - benched. Grow up, LGW. It's 2-1. It's the freaking WINGS. How many times have we seen them fight back with such intensity that we all had to sit back and say "That's my Wings". I love you guys, but my goodness.. be a fan of the damn team. Stop jumping ship and acting like the city is about to burn down. It's not. And if you think WE are feeling the pressure, imagine how the teams feels - and imagine what it would be like to find out that your "fans" have started trashing you because you lost two games in the playoffs. Knock it off. This is a powerful post and a creative thread. I believe another reason to calm down is that with your (OK, "our"...) anger and rage taking over, the only real thing that's happening is that we are hurting ourselves physically and mentally. Yeah, it's good to vent. But do we get back at the refs or the Ducks by doing so? Does it change anything? And wouldn't it be great if our pissed-off attitudes did affect those we rage at? But it doesn't happen that way and never will. I was in a rage last night and was screaming to the point where I lost my voice. And at the end of the game, Pronger was still being his usual self and pounding on Datsyuk and smirking away. And for the hell of it, I took my blood pressure. NOT good to the point of being scary. So I calmed down and did the only thing I knew how to do that was creative. I emailed Colin Campbell and told him I thought the reffing and the cheapshots after the whistle were an outrage. I said it without attacking, but I know I made my points. I suggest if you want to do something positive, email WhoEVER, including the NHL and any sports media sites you know of. But first things first. Vent, yeah. But then move on. Take care of your health, your heart and your mental attitude because nobody else will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMAC 25 18 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 game 4 is a must win now, we lose and theres still hope that we win but very little. i couldnt believe that we lost last night. its gonna piss me off if detroit loses to the ducks this year, no reason that the number one seed and the number two seed should be out this early in the playoffs. like i said i still believe they can win the series but game 4 is now a must win i think, makes it a tie in the series and then go back to detroit where they can get a 3-2 lead on them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.OWingsFan 7 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 Its not a time to RELAX. Its time to get pissed. The fans and the players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superted 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 I found the BEST way to let off some steam 1) turn on your ps3 or xbox 2) load up nhl09 3) play a detroit at anaheim game 4a) follow the ref around and keep slashing his legs 4b) find pronger, check him to buggery, start fights, beat the living shyte out of him I feel strangely calm.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 This ******* series is over. They have imposed their will on us and dominating our star players. Props to them, they want it more. The only chance we have is if we get Raffi and Drapes back and if ******* Babs puts the ZDH line back together. It's amazing, I thought the only way we'd lose this series is if Ozzie played terrible, but he has actually played really good. ******* s***, I'm so ******* pissed off and drunk right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will agree with you that they are imposing their will upon us. The Ducks do want it more. It wasn't until the 3rd period when the Ducks just slacked off and the Wings got a ton of chances on net. Lets put it this way, if the Wings keep up this level of play and lose this series, the Sharks won't look as bad for getting beat out of the first round. Every Red Wing fan that cheered for the Ducks to win that series so we could play them should be taken out in the street and shot. I knew this Ducks team would be trouble and now every Wings fan is feeling that after a game 3 loss. I predicted a Wings win in 6 games and I am sticking to that. I have faith they will pick it up and play hard in Game 4. If not? Well, they have no one to blame but themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 Red Wings have had solid goaltending and the defense is solidifying. Once Babcock puts ZDH together everything should be fine. Hopefully Leino and Abdelcader will be called up and replace Koko and Maltby and we will have a fourth line that can play tight defense and also pot a couple goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 Being in this position, then coming back to beat Anaheim, and going on to win the Finals, are the exact reasons grown men break down emotionally and cry as they Hoist The Stanely Cup. Its called being a Champion. We shall see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 The Ducks aren't allowing the Red Wings to play their game - that is puck possession. The Ducks phycical play is taking it to the Wings, and it's frustrating both players, and fans alike...Have you ever seen Hossa so absent from the play as he's had these past few games? The Ducks game-plan is to intimidate/man-handle the Wings, and not allow them any quality scoring chances; so far it's working. Size meaning nothing huh? Try telling that to Kopecky/Hudler/Hossa/Chelios and anyone else who's watching since it appears that the Wings are losing many of the battles in the corners, and in front of the net. It's funny how people here are so unwilling to admit that the Wings are being beaten up physically, when it constantly shows during the games. Our players aren't used to this kind of play and we didn't have to face a team anywhere remotely as physical last year in the playoffs. We lucked out. Also, other than Homer, everyone else on our team seems unwilling to crash the net consistently. That's a sign of a team that is afraid to do anything physical. The Wings are just being handled right now physically, and the people who've made excuses all year about us not needing toughness are unable to admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 You, & I, & a few others are of the few who acknowledge that the Wings will always have trouble with teams like the Ducks; playoff hockey is a different animal, & the Ducks are built for it. If we had faced the Ducks last year - chances are we may not have won it all...Now don't get me wrong - I'm not throwing in the towel - it's just that when the refs decide to call the game differently (as they do every spring) it benefits teams with more grit/determination vs teams that rely on skill/puck possession/calls going their way. If the Ducks do manage to find their way to the Finals - I really hope the Bruins make it there too; that Bruin squad IMO is on a equal footing when it comes down to the thuggish aspects to the game. You guys are totally correct. ANd in the playoffs, the league does not want the game to be determined by the refs (if you can believe that after last night) so the penalty calls will not be there. During the season, the Wings thrived off the Power Play, not 5 on 5. And now the PP is not going to be there. Its going to be interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsallwin 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 The reason we have looked lost in this series; let me summarize. Our 5 on 5 is absolutely brutal at this moment. It is good to see our special team is clicking but if we cannot score on equal strength, we do not deserve to win this series. Besides, we are not losing this series because of lack of playing physically. We have hit the Ducks more than they hit us. However, my view is on the fact that the Wings play to physical level but they do not play to win the game. Before the series starts, everyone worried about Ozzie because not everyone was sure about Ozzie's real performance. On the other hand, while Ozzie has been really good, our key players have been DEAD. Datsyuk looked to be back on his track of his own game but Hossa and Homlstrom look really lost still. Make two good lines is far better keeping normal three lines. I thought Babcock is a good coach but now? I highly doubt. He has been too stubborn not changing any line combo; he never tested ZDH line in the playoff. We all saw Hossa and Datsyuk have zero chemistry together and what is the point of using that line again and again? Besides, it is the story on the other end part but I think ref has been a *** toward us even though I really do not blame ref when we got f*cked up by refs in the past. I will keep cheering for the Wings but I was never fan of the NHL since the first time I watched hockey; the time was around 1998. f*** this league. The worst league in North America Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lilja4mvp Report post Posted May 6, 2009 the wings will not win both games in anaheim. you can take that to the bank. nailed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawings1905 2 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 I sure am glad I didn't play sports or go to war with most of you in here. The wings are down 2-1 in a series in which all three games could have gone either way. Yet, some of you are bailing out already. Grow a pair, grow up, and realize there is much hockey left to be played. Me, I think I will watch and see what happens. This is an organization that has won more cups than anyone over the last 11 or so years. I would much rather have these guys fighting for us down 2-1 than any other team in the league. Comon people, this is not over. Quit being a bunch of little quitters.l Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) Um, nothing at all has changed in these regards. There's been lots of scared bandwagoners simply waiting to call the Wings season over way too prematurely as long as I've been here. However, I agree with the intent of your post, although it's like fighting an oil fire with water. I've learned to use the ignore feature for the special ones who have nothing better to do than consistently show up again to declare the season over after declaring it over long ago and the season is still going. I hope to god they don't have children with this mentality. Edited May 6, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites