eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 The NHL isn't going to market a Canadian guy playing in Anaheim of all places. Kane is young and American, playing in an original 6 city. How about Tim Thomas, Scott Gomez, or Chris Drury? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 How about Tim Thomas, Scott Gomez, or Chris Drury? Kane will probably be better than any of those players, and he's younger. I didn't say the league will market any decent American player. However, they will market a future superstar American player. Right now, Kane is the only one who really fits the mold best. I was just responding to the posters who suggested Getzlaf to be on the cover. It's doubtful the league cares about players playing in Anaheim, unless it's the face of the NHL or something. Getzlaf clearly isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 why do you guys not think that crosby will continue to be the poster boy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 Kane is going to write a check to the cabbie, and charges will be dropped. And his lawyer. Don't forget about lawyer. He is the guy who is going to do the dropping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Yep. It's the usual BS here. Kane pays the old man off, and all of a sudden all charges are dropped and it's like nothing happened. HELL, must be nice to be able to go around doing what you like, wheather it be assaulting an elderly man, or killing a homeless man while drunk driving and absolutely getting away w/ it!! And then we have the rest of us. Hmmm, Hockeycrazy has to go fight a speeding ticket in court, you think Kane will spend more time in court than she? I doubt it. lol. What a joke! IF THERE IS ANYTHING THE NFL HAS SHOWN US RECENTLY, IT'S THAT YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER in 2009!!! GUESS THE NHL IS GOING TO BE NO BETTER, WE'LL SEE.... The Kane situation is a joke, it stinks of corruption of the Justice System and it's far too common. This sh#( pisses me right off!!!!! Edited August 11, 2009 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Found this Post on the Yahoo Article and LOVE IT!!!!! # <i>buffalonygal67</i> 1971. Posted by buffalonygal67 Mon Aug 10 11:22pm EDT Report Abuse I retired driving cab in Buffalo after 20 years and now live near Chicago. Kane and his cousin were NOT over charged for the ride they took. Like the Tampa cabbie I also had many professional atheletes in my cab who were jerks and slobs. Multimillionaire brats that expect everyone to bow down and kiss their ass because the media treats them like little darlings. I personally never gave a rats ass who or what you think you are, pay the meter. All meters in Buffalo are inspected in May for accuracy in the milage and timers. That is every single taxicab and livery vehicle with a meter is inspected and must pass 100% no exceptions before a new licence for the vehicle is issued. Since Radecki's cab has a brand new tag on it, it passed the inspection. Buffalo cops are not as stupid as the Chicago PD, every cop in Buffalo knows that the first thing to check on a fare dispute call is the meter seal, driver's hack license and drivers operating license. This is standard operating proceedure for them. For the moron who thinks the driver should be sued for detaining the fare (the bullies Kane) guess again. According to the rules that are issued by the City of Buffalo Police Department (yes read that very carefully, EVERY SINGLE TAXI/LIVERY & DRIVER LICENSE SAYS "By order of the City of Buffalo Police Department" and they NEVER let any driver forget that) " A driver may detain a fare and contact the police department for any fare disputes." There is never, ever any reason for either driver or fare to ever begin a physical confrontation over a fare dispute. You mean to tell me a millionare doesn't have a cell phone to call the cops and refuse to pay a fare if he feels overcharged? All they had to do if they felt over charged is to call the cops refuse to pay the fare and wait until the cops got there. No need to be a neanderthal and beat someone 3 times your age. At the very least Kane and his cousin (lest we forget he is a party in this beating also) should have to repay the driver for his time lost, the fare in question, and the driver's medical since his glasses were broken. Driving cab in any city is no walk in the park, it is a very dangerous job. If Kane were beaten up by a fan outside any hockey arena he would expect the attacker to be arrested and charged. There is no reason he should not answer for his own behavior toward the driver. Does not matter hockey, football, baseball, what ever star you are. Behave like a normal person and keep your hands to your self or face the music like every one else! Edited August 11, 2009 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Don't forget guys, we don't ever circumvent the law. We don't jaywalk, speed, drive recklessly/buzzed, pirate movies, manipulate taxes, set off illegal fireworks, steal s***, get in fights, etc., and get away with it. It's only the rich or young. Or, how about EVERYONE GETS AWAY WITH BREAKING THE LAW AND STILL BREAKS THE LAW, and equally, EVERYONE PAYS FOR IT WHEN THEY BREAK THE LAW TOO EVENTUALLY. Suddenly Kane is expected to be superhuman? He's young, and obviously a little light on the mature side as far as hockey players, who are generally coached to be extremely careful around anything and everything in public due to this type of hyperbolic scrutiny, go. People and the media, not long ago, were all over Phelps for toking on a ******* bong and getting caught, which I'm sure wasn't legal either. Whoopdeef***ingdoo. Nothing beats hypocites pretending to be holier-than-thou. Pardon me while I stick a fork in my eye. This s*** always happens when it involves celebrities. Edited August 11, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 Yep. It's the usual BS here. Kane pays the old man off, and all of a sudden all charges are dropped and it's like nothing happened. HELL, must be nice to be able to go around doing what you like, wheather it be assaulting an elderly man, or killing a homeless man while drunk driving and absolutely getting away w/ it!! And then we have the rest of us. Hmmm, Hockeycrazy has to go fight a speeding ticket in court, you think Kane will spend more time in court than she? I doubt it. lol. What a joke! IF THERE IS ANYTHING THE NFL HAS SHOWN US RECENTLY, IT'S THAT YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER in 2009!!! GUESS THE NHL IS GOING TO BE NO BETTER, WE'LL SEE.... The Kane situation is a joke, it stinks of corruption of the Justice System and it's far too common. This sh#( pisses me right off!!!!! Getting away with it? Are you being serious? You do realize the NFL hasn't even decided on Stallworth's punishment, right, and in the meantime, he's suspended indefinitely and can't practice or play? How is that "getting away with it"? You might also be interested to know that Stallworth spent a month in jail and will spend two years on house arrest and can go nowhere but work and back (except, he doesn't work because he's suspended), is doing 1,000 hours of community service, spending eight years on probation, and he's lost his driver's license indefinitely. If that sounds like something you'd like to do, by all means volunteer. It's not a sentence that's wildly out of line with what a normal citizen would have gotten. And he's not playing football right now. Or, how about EVERYONE GETS AWAY WITH BREAKING THE LAW AND STILL BREAKS THE LAW, and equally, EVERYONE PAYS FOR IT WHEN THEY BREAK THE LAW TOO EVENTUALLY. Suddenly Kane is expected to be superhuman? He's young, and obviously a little light on the mature side as far as hockey players, who are generally coached to be extremely careful around anything and everything in public due to this type of hyperbolic scrutiny, go. People and the media, not long ago, were all over Phelps for toking on a ******* bong and getting caught, which I'm sure wasn't legal either. Whoopdeef***ingdoo. Nothing beats hypocites pretending to be holier-than-thou. Pardon me while I stick a fork in my eye. This s*** always happens when it involves celebrities. Not guilty. I'm not on Kane for breaking the law. I'm on Kane for being a greedy cockhole about 20 cents when he's worth millions. I tip cabbies despite being worth a small fraction of what Kane has in the money department, as do, I'm sure, 95% of people here. I don't act like a prick over 20 cents. Hell, if I'd left $15 on a $13.80 fare, I'd feel like a cheapskate for leaving a cheesy 8% tip. Patrick Kane is not a normal citizen, he has privileges all of us can only dream of, and with that comes a little responsibility to at the very least act like a decent person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stiffy 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 Come on you guys. When a young Stevie Yzerman made similar youthful indiscretions we all... oh wait, he NEVER did! Some great players are great leaders and some are just immature punks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 Don't forget guys, we don't ever circumvent the law. We don't jaywalk, speed, drive recklessly/buzzed, pirate movies, manipulate taxes, set off illegal fireworks, steal s***, get in fights, etc., and get away with it. It's only the rich or young. Or, how about EVERYONE GETS AWAY WITH BREAKING THE LAW AND STILL BREAKS THE LAW, and equally, EVERYONE PAYS FOR IT WHEN THEY BREAK THE LAW TOO EVENTUALLY. Suddenly Kane is expected to be superhuman? He's young, and obviously a little light on the mature side as far as hockey players, who are generally coached to be extremely careful around anything and everything in public due to this type of hyperbolic scrutiny, go. People and the media, not long ago, were all over Phelps for toking on a ******* bong and getting caught, which I'm sure wasn't legal either. Whoopdeef***ingdoo. Nothing beats hypocites pretending to be holier-than-thou. Pardon me while I stick a fork in my eye. This s*** always happens when it involves celebrities. Bulls***. Every one of those things that you mentioned are "victimless" crimes. What Kane did was beat up a 60 year old man. That it a hell of a lot worse than lighting off fireworks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 Don't forget guys, we don't ever circumvent the law. We don't jaywalk, speed, drive recklessly/buzzed, pirate movies, manipulate taxes, set off illegal fireworks, steal s***, get in fights, etc., and get away with it. It's only the rich or young. Or, how about EVERYONE GETS AWAY WITH BREAKING THE LAW AND STILL BREAKS THE LAW, and equally, EVERYONE PAYS FOR IT WHEN THEY BREAK THE LAW TOO EVENTUALLY. Suddenly Kane is expected to be superhuman? He's young, and obviously a little light on the mature side as far as hockey players, who are generally coached to be extremely careful around anything and everything in public due to this type of hyperbolic scrutiny, go. People and the media, not long ago, were all over Phelps for toking on a ******* bong and getting caught, which I'm sure wasn't legal either. Whoopdeef***ingdoo. Nothing beats hypocites pretending to be holier-than-thou. Pardon me while I stick a fork in my eye. This s*** always happens when it involves celebrities. I don't think anyone really cared about Phelps smoking pot. They cared more about the media's reaction to it. He can do any drug he likes because that only affects his dumb ass and no one else. Yes, I drink underage, jaywalk, and set off fireworks once in a while. But that is not the same as beating someone up. The "crimes" I commit don't affect anyone else but myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 How about Tim Thomas, Scott Gomez, or Chris Drury? Zach Parise -- better than Kane anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted August 11, 2009 Bulls***. Every one of those things that you mentioned are "victimless" crimes. What Kane did was beat up a 60 year old man. That it a hell of a lot worse than lighting off fireworks. How is stealing "victimless"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted August 11, 2009 Don't forget guys, we don't ever circumvent the law. We don't jaywalk, speed, drive recklessly/buzzed, pirate movies, manipulate taxes, set off illegal fireworks, steal s***, get in fights, etc., and get away with it. It's only the rich or young. Or, how about EVERYONE GETS AWAY WITH BREAKING THE LAW AND STILL BREAKS THE LAW, and equally, EVERYONE PAYS FOR IT WHEN THEY BREAK THE LAW TOO EVENTUALLY. Suddenly Kane is expected to be superhuman? He's young, and obviously a little light on the mature side as far as hockey players, who are generally coached to be extremely careful around anything and everything in public due to this type of hyperbolic scrutiny, go. People and the media, not long ago, were all over Phelps for toking on a ******* bong and getting caught, which I'm sure wasn't legal either. Whoopdeef***ingdoo. Nothing beats hypocites pretending to be holier-than-thou. Pardon me while I stick a fork in my eye. This s*** always happens when it involves celebrities. What are you smoking? Alot of people, including celebs jaywalk. I'm sure lots of folks have seen a bootleg dvd or have smoked a little weed. But most folks don't go hauling off and beating up near senior citizens. I'm not sure what your stance is here or why you seem to be defending the Kanes in a roundabout way. If they physically assaulted this cab driver, wtf are you arguing about? His age, his status, none of it really matters. If he took to beating on this man, then he should suffer the consequences. Obviously there will be no significant charges. How could there be when the ******* victim's own lawyer comes out publicly in a manner that just screams cover up, deal cutting. Kane's not expected to be superhuman at all. Not sure why you're taking these giant leaps of logic from dvd's, weed and jaywalking and making it anything comparable to beating on another human. You ever beat on another human? Ever been beaten on? I've done both. I have friend who served jail time for a bar fight gone wrong that nearly killed a guy. It's nothing like jaywalking or watching bootleg dvd's. Most of us speed, jaywalk, etc.....How many of us do you personally know go to beating on people in their 60's? Mind you this is not some inner city, thug life, beatdown. We're talking about a supposedly good kid from Buffalo. An NHL poster boy. Face facts. He was out partying like many of us did in our youth. Only thing was, I paid my ******* fare and tipped. He decided he'd pay the fare (sort of) and then tip the guy by punching his lights out. Yeah, we all do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormJH1 231 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 Kane is a D-bag for not just saying "keep the change", and there is absolutely no circumstance I can think of (short of maayybee the cab driver assaulting him first) that would justify roughing him up over such a stupid dispute. You can debate the seriousness of it, but there's no question it's embarassing to the league. If this were an NFL player, it would be such small potatoes compared to the other problems they've had league-wide (and to be fair, there are a LOT more players in the NFL than in any other organized sports league) that it would hardly make headlines. But as the Staal brothers thing up in Lutsen, MN showed, the NHL is a target and the ESPN mainstream media will go out of its way to report negative things about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ZetterbergFourty Report post Posted August 11, 2009 When he bolts from a cab with a full 28 of beer and gets away with it, i'll be impressed. If he ever makes it back to the ice, i hope someone sticks up for the old guy he punched out. Bravo Kane, class A jerkoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 From Toronto Star : Asked if the case would end up as a felony, he said: "Absolutely not." =Undermining the police. "I think we should be able to work things out," he added. =Undermining his client. The cabbie's lawyer: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 honestly shoreline, comparing what kane did to all of those things you listed, even YOU must see the absurdity in such a comment. You are digging yourself into a hole with your argument now. Before you were defending kane on the license that he is innocent until proven guilty, not all the facts are here, etc, which is an understandable stance... But now... you are defending what kane is accused of doing. You are defending him beating up an old man over 20 cents. Im not sure why you are standing up for kane so much, but comparing jaywalking to beating up and old man over 20 cents is just cowardly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Bulls***. Every one of those things that you mentioned are "victimless" crimes. What Kane did was beat up a 60 year old man. That it a hell of a lot worse than lighting off fireworks. Fireworks, particularly the illegal kind that most people use, can light trees, grass, and houses on fire, as well as, if hitting someone with a report, severely injure a person. There's very, very few victimless crimes, and several of the ones I mentioned certainly can and do involve victims. Plus, you don't even know the whole story yet you've already come to a conclusion about everything that happened without being there. The media allows for you to think you do and thus play judge and jury the way you do. Nothing less. I don't think anyone really cared about Phelps smoking pot. They cared more about the media's reaction to it. He can do any drug he likes because that only affects his dumb ass and no one else. Yes, I drink underage, jaywalk, and set off fireworks once in a while. But that is not the same as beating someone up. The "crimes" I commit don't affect anyone else but myself. You s***ting me? The media was all over Phelps and how he's now some horrendous role model for kids. Endorsement deals disappeared over night, and he was made out to be a bad guy because of it. This is the role the media plays. Shall I name the other two rather large celebrities (yet again) whose court case was already decided by the media and thus people in the public court of opinion similarly? You ever beat on another human? Ever been beaten on? I've done both. I have friend who served jail time for a bar fight gone wrong that nearly killed a guy. It's nothing like jaywalking or watching bootleg dvd's. Most of us speed, jaywalk, etc.....How many of us do you personally know go to beating on people in their 60's? Mind you this is not some inner city, thug life, beatdown. We're talking about a supposedly good kid from Buffalo. An NHL poster boy. Face facts. He was out partying like many of us did in our youth. Only thing was, I paid my ******* fare and tipped. He decided he'd pay the fare (sort of) and then tip the guy by punching his lights out. Yeah, we all do that. Obviously I'm referencing the media influence on people suddenly thinking they know everything to a story and acting as if they don't break the law either. And face facts, you were not there, only have one side presented by the media, and that's it. You might as well have said Kane half beat him to death with that aggrandizing assessment. Edited August 11, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 You s***ting me? The media was all over Phelps and how he's now some horrendous role model for kids. Endorsement deals disappeared over night, and he was made out to be a bad guy because of it. This is the role the media plays. Shall I name the other two rather large celebrities (yet again) whose court case was already decided by the media and thus people in the public court of opinion similarly? That's what I said. The media overreacted to the whole pot thing, and the rest of the average citizens of the country commented on how the media was blowing it out of proportion. And yeah, someone who does drugs when he is supposed to be an athlete and put his career first is not the role model I would chose for my future children. And still, pot is not beating up an old man. But for you to completely defend beating up an old man because "the rest of us commit crimes" makes no sense. Even if lots of people do it, doesn't mean it's right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) But for you to completely defend beating up an old man because "the rest of us commit crimes" makes no sense. Even if lots of people do it, doesn't mean it's right. Who said whatever he did may have been right? I'm on people for acting like they were there for the friggen thing and making judgments about him, even worse, on top of that, the holier-than-thou attitude like they've never broken the law or done anything that could put someone else at risk. One poster happened to tell me he's been in fights with people and suddenly can look down his nose at another person without hearing what the role the cab driver might have played in the conflict? If you wonder why SCOTUS has been averse to cameras and the media getting in there -- this is why. People only need a headline or part of a story to suddenly be sure they have the facts when it comes to someone's guilt or roles someone else played, throw onto that the character assassination. About as sensible as polygraphs. Edited August 11, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted August 11, 2009 I say we go back in time - say the old west - say 1860's...Every guy gets to carry a 6-shooter on his hip (ladies get a derringer on their garter), and when someone "wrongs you" - blast 'em!...I betcha folks start acting really civil towards one another, that or there'll be alot of dead assholes lying around. Kane is gonna end up being a bad role model for kids now and they're gonna end up like those satanic hockey kids from Dogma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 When Kane signs here next year we won't have to worry about any stories like this because there is no way in hell a 5'8'' 160 lb white kid will try to beat up / rob / whatever a Detroit cabbie. At least a smart one won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted August 11, 2009 - where's Jay, & Silent Bob when ya need 'em? Too busy beating up kids they sold weed to for dissin' The Time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMan Mark 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) When Kane signs here next year we won't have to worry about any stories like this because there is no way in hell a 5'8'' 160 lb white kid will try to beat up / rob / whatever a Detroit cabbie. At least a smart one won't. Never happen. . . he is too one-dimensional. . . and not very smart either Edited August 11, 2009 by MadMan Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites