I found this article on NHL.com, its their top five captains of all time. Really its something we all know but it's always good to see Stevie on these lists. They five players are not ranked in any particular order.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 01:26 PM
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 03:21 PM
Scott Stevens should have been there. So should Bobby Clarke. I'd take Gretzky out and probably Sakic.
Can't argue with Yzerman, Beliveau and Messier. They should be on anyone's top 5.
Can't argue with Yzerman, Beliveau and Messier. They should be on anyone's top 5.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 04:58 PM
Good choices - I'd probably bump Messier though. Most of these guys became better leaders with age, while Messier literally became a 'bad' captain - demanding too much ice-time, causing division in locker rooms and just believing all his own hype.Scott Stevens should have been there. So should Bobby Clarke. I'd take Gretzky out and probably Sakic.
Can't argue with Yzerman, Beliveau and Messier. They should be on anyone's top 5.
Potvin is another guy I consider.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 05:01 PM
Stevens and Yzerman were the definitions of a captain. They'd sacrifice ANYTHING to help the team win, great locker room guys. They both had a way with words and knew when to speak up.Scott Stevens should have been there. So should Bobby Clarke. I'd take Gretzky out and probably Sakic.
Can't argue with Yzerman, Beliveau and Messier. They should be on anyone's top 5.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 05:24 PM
Call me crazy, but I think all this Messier talk as being such a great leader is a little overrated. I don't think he'd be in the conversation if the 1994 Rangers didn't win. There's to much attention on one year.
Just my opinion.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 05:28 PM
Call me crazy, but I think all this Messier talk as being such a great leader is a little overrated. I don't think he'd be in the conversation if the 1994 Rangers didn't win. There's to much attention on one year.
Just my opinion.
No, I think you're absolutely right.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 05:41 PM
He's not in the top 5, but who I've always had a lot of respect for is Trevor Linden
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 05:53 PM
Am I the only one bothered by the fact that Bleacher Report is just a giant collection of amateur blogs? Legitimate (if you can still even call them that...) are bad enough, but some of the blogs on that site are just dripping with stupidity; armchair drivel at its best. I'm fine with the idea of people having a blog and a voice, but I think it gets fuzzy when they start trying to pass themselves off as proper journalists when they blatantly are not beholden to the same standards of integrity and accuracy.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 06:02 PM
One of my cousins is a Canucks fan. Messier's 3 years in Vancouver, according to my cousin, was a complete joke. They hate him out there.No, I think you're absolutely right.
egroen mentioned Messier's ice time at the end of his career. I've heard he hurt the development of some of the Rangers young players because he wanted first line minutes.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 06:07 PM
Scott Stevens should have been there. So should Bobby Clarke. I'd take Gretzky out and probably Sakic.
Can't argue with Yzerman, Beliveau and Messier. They should be on anyone's top 5.
f*** Bobby Clarke. He was a highly skilled player on a stacked team protected by goons, but good captain? Good captains don't do things like this unprovoked in friendly exhibition games against obviously undermatched teams:
My choices (no order) would be:
Steve Yzerman
Maurice Richard
Jean Beliveau
Joe Sakic
George Armstrong
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 06:20 PM
Scott Stevens should have been there. So should Bobby Clarke. I'd take Gretzky out and probably Sakic.
Can't argue with Yzerman, Beliveau and Messier. They should be on anyone's top 5.
Good choices - I'd probably bump Messier though. Most of these guys became better leaders with age, while Messier literally became a 'bad' captain - demanding too much ice-time, causing division in locker rooms and just believing all his own hype.
Potvin is another guy I consider.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 06:57 PM
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 07:09 PM
Gretzky was a good player but I have never looked at him as a leader. If he was not as good of a player as he was there is absolutely no way he would have had the C. I have always thought Messier was pretty overrated as a captain also. Those two need to be bumped off the list. Someone said Stevens should be on there, I agree with that for sure. There are a lot of guys I would consider over Gretzky and Messier.
Edited by cjm502, 15 February 2011 - 07:09 PM.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 07:57 PM
Good choices - I'd probably bump Messier though. Most of these guys became better leaders with age, while Messier literally became a 'bad' captain - demanding too much ice-time, causing division in locker rooms and just believing all his own hype.
As a 14 year old I played against Clarke in an exhibition game when he was in his prime with the Flyers. I'm surprised he didn't do that to me. He sure as s*** high sticked and speared me. You've got to understand that he just doesn't care. If he was on the ice it was all personal and he had to win no matter who he was playing against. That's part of being a good leader in my opinion.f*** Bobby Clarke. He was a highly skilled player on a stacked team protected by goons, but good captain? Good captains don't do things like this unprovoked in friendly exhibition games against obviously undermatched teams:
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 08:00 PM
No love for Mats Sundin? Seeing as how I can never limit myself to 5 of anything, my list would be 7-10 long and Sundin would be in there.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 08:02 PM
f*** Bobby Clarke. He was a highly skilled player on a stacked team protected by goons, but good captain? Good captains don't do things like this unprovoked in friendly exhibition games against obviously undermatched teams:
My choices (no order) would be:
Steve Yzerman
Maurice Richard
Jean Beliveau
Joe Sakic
George Armstrong
I hate Clarke more than anyone here, but I won't discredit his reputation as a leader for that franchise.
He was the heart and soul of those Flyers teams, and not just their best player.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 08:21 PM
Thats one person I would have over Gretzky and Messier.No love for Mats Sundin? Seeing as how I can never limit myself to 5 of anything, my list would be 7-10 long and Sundin would be in there.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 08:48 PM
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 09:27 PM
How come no one has mentioned Bourque? He was definitely one of the greatest leaders in the history of a very very storied franchise. Amazing player too I might add.
NOTE: I can't open this website on my computer for whatever reason so not too sure if it is on bleacherreports list. Just haven't seen a single person mention him on here yet.
NOTE: I can't open this website on my computer for whatever reason so not too sure if it is on bleacherreports list. Just haven't seen a single person mention him on here yet.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 09:43 PM
I'm with you; I used to read Bleacher Report "articles" now and again, but stopped when I realized I pretty much had to rant at the stupidity of the authors after almost everything I read on there.Am I the only one bothered by the fact that Bleacher Report is just a giant collection of amateur blogs? Legitimate (if you can still even call them that...) are bad enough, but some of the blogs on that site are just dripping with stupidity; armchair drivel at its best. I'm fine with the idea of people having a blog and a voice, but I think it gets fuzzy when they start trying to pass themselves off as proper journalists when they blatantly are not beholden to the same standards of integrity and accuracy.
There are hidden gems, but frankly most of the crap over there is just that: crap.
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