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Subliminal Sidney Crosby Messages in NHL commercials?

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They were just the ones who came to mind then and there. But hell Masalskis played great for Latvia, but the team fell on their faces. I just think you are way too quick to crown him, especially while Ovie is playing better hockey than Crosby, and has been for a while.

But the point of the matter is, it is a team sport. One player can't carry a team like some want to believe. If you notice the Pens didn't do half bad after he went down for the year either.

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They were just the ones who came to mind then and there. But hell Masalskis played great for Latvia, but the team fell on their faces. I just think you are way too quick to crown him, especially while Ovie is playing better hockey than Crosby, and has been for a while.

But the point of the matter is, it is a team sport. One player can't carry a team like some want to believe. If you notice the Pens didn't do half bad after he went down for the year either.

Up until this season that may have been true.

I don't even really know what this is about anymore though, other than another stupid thread about how much Crosby sucks.

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:thumbup: to the first comment.

Yea I agree, that's how I feel, just wait and see. However, this has been a long recovery. But then again, in Baseball it took Aaron Hill and Justin Morneau a year to comeback.

how can you injure yourself playing baseball????

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how can you injure yourself playing baseball????

Steroids, or clawing your own eyes out from boredom.

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I think I'd actually take Dats over them both

That is not just you and you should win the Internet basically. Totally true. Sid is spectacular and a douchenozzle as well, but let's not forget who we have playing for our very own team. Pav's game went to some kind of unearthly level this year.

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If your ALL TIME GREAT'S list is made up of 10+ players...than yes you may have an arguement. But I believe when most talk about "All Time" anything, most have a very short list (standard list...not in this order: Gretzky, Howe, Mario.....Done!) If you want to run this list into the 15+ or 20+ greatest of All Time players...you may have an arguement. But today he's not in the top 5 of All Time. Probably not even close. But ask yourself this....if you have to go 6+, 10+, 20+ deep into your "All Time" list ....are they really the best/most talented of ALL TIME??? No, not really. Really a great players, yes...is it fun to rank the really great players, yes...All Time- no.

You say you think he's a ******, but in all honesty in think your a fan of his or else I'm mistaken and your defending him blindly and not realizing that a lot of people don't even think he's the best player in the league right now, or even the past few years (ever since AO has turned it on). If you have to argue the notion that you believe he is the better player than AO, and the "gap has been widing before his injury", then he's clearly not "ONE OF THE ALL TIME GREATS". You might want to look at the great history of this game and some of the truely "all time greats" players. Even Don Cherry who is a Sid slappy has been quoted as saying "he's not there yet, but by God when I retire he just might be". Further debating that he's better than AO blows up your point.

I said all time talent, not all time greatness.. Its semantica anyway. Talent wise, I would put him up there in the top talented players of all time. Look at his numbers for his career. They are unbelievable. Greatness implies longevity, which he will only achieve if he can stay healthy. But talent is something that can be debated now. And the guys is f***** talented.

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That is not just you and you should win the Internet basically. Totally true. Sid is spectacular and a douchenozzle as well, but let's not forget who we have playing for our very own team. Pav's game went to some kind of unearthly level this year.

Tru dat. I take Dats one-on-one against anyone...ANYONE!!

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Weeks and weeks without a Sidney Crosby hate thread... (and yes I think he is a putz but sometimes you get to your tolerance level of seeing the same thing over and over again)

We were doing so well in here...

*sigh*

Carry on.

*shrugs*

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The NHL will suffer so very much if Crosby does not recover 100%. Crosby will be the reason the NHL will be successful league or fall back into the shadows

I'm sorry. This is just dumb. I know you say these things to troll and then act all innocent and misunderstood after the fact, but there are PLENTY of players in the NHL that are as compelling/marketable as your hero.

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Hudlers 11 game stretch had as much of an effect as Crsobys first half pace.

From Dec. 27 to Jan. 11, there was a ratings drop of 4 million households due in part to the loss of Crosby and Hudler's emergence. The stats can't be refuted.

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Weeks and weeks without a Sidney Crosby hate thread... (and yes I think he is a putz but sometimes you get to your tolerance level of seeing the same thing over and over again)

We were doing so well in here...

*sigh*

Carry on.

*shrugs*

*shrug* All that happened was it switched from Crosby to Chicago / Toews for a lil bit.

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how can you injure yourself playing baseball????

I know Morneau got kneed in the head on a play at 2nd base, I'm not sure how Hill got his.

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how can you injure yourself playing baseball????

Lots of torn hamstrings. Getting beaned in the head also doesn't help. Lots of catchers get injured at home plate collisions.

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So... in 4 pages, has anyone actually answered the original question?

Why was only Sidney Crosby visible on the Cup? It's pretty blatant. It's not like they just happened to get a shot of the Cup where his name was. Why not some of the great names from the past? Why not just a shot of the Cup? If they just happened to shoot it there, why not show the rest of the team?

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Probably because Crosby is the best playoff performer in the modern era, ppg wise atleast.

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Probably because Crosby is the best playoff performer in the modern era, ppg wise atleast.

By definition, modern era would include anyone playing since the 16th century. Sid isn't even on that list.

However, if you even want to look at his Playoff PPG during his career....

PPG playoff leaders:

10-11 Didn't play

09-10 2. Crosby (1. Franzen)

08-09 4. Crosby (1. Malkin, 2. Ovechkin, & 3. Getzlaf did better)

07-08 2. Crosby (1. Jagr)

06-07 15. Crosby

You would think to be the best PPG playoff performer of the "modern era", he'd have to be first in the category at least once in his career.

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Career post season points per game of players playing right now.

Feel free keep bashing Crosby, I'm trying to stay away from this. It's just sad to see so many irrational opinions here.

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Career post season points per game of players playing right now.

Feel free keep bashing Crosby, I'm trying to stay away from this. It's just sad to see so many irrational opinions here.

How am I bashing Crosby? I'm pointing out your delusions based on irrational love.

Right now, well... he didn't play in the playoffs. So anyone who scored a point did better.

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Does Crosby not have the highest career PPG of active players that have actually played at least a full year of playoffs or not?

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By definition, modern era would include anyone playing since the 16th century. Sid isn't even on that list.

However, if you even want to look at his Playoff PPG during his career....

PPG playoff leaders:

10-11 Didn't play

09-10 2. Crosby (1. Franzen)

08-09 4. Crosby (1. Malkin, 2. Ovechkin, & 3. Getzlaf did better)

07-08 2. Crosby (1. Jagr)

06-07 15. Crosby

You would think to be the best PPG playoff performer of the "modern era", he'd have to be first in the category at least once in his career.

You must be new to sports?

Your attempts at diminishing Crosby are hilarious. He's a career 1.323 PPG in the postseason. Of active players, only AO is higher. Of course because of the Caps postseason flops his stat is based on 25 fewer games. None of the other guys you mention are even in the ballpark for career PPG.

So yes, Crosby missed being #1 last season to Franzen by .04 ppg, but if I had to choose I'd rather have the player who averages 1.32 PPG in the postseason for 62 games in his career than the one who manages to lead it for 12 games one playoffs.

And for the regular season, Crosby averages 1.388 ppg, which puts him top among active players and behind only Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy, and Orr.

Some Red Wings playoff ppg, by comparison:

Zetterberg: .952 (he's the only active Red Wings in the Top 50 all time)

Franzen : .867

Datsyuk: .752

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Ohh... so it's career Playoff PPG now. ok....

BTW... I have yet to say anything bad about Crosby. I have always said I think he's a great player.

Quit assuming that because I don't agree with Carman's biased original statement that I'm hating on Crosby.

You must be new to sports?

Your attempts at diminishing Crosby are hilarious. He's a career 1.323 PPG in the postseason. Of active players, only AO is higher. Of course because of the Caps postseason flops his stat is based on 25 fewer games. None of the other guys you mention are even in the ballpark for career PPG.

So yes, Crosby missed being #1 last season to Franzen by .04 ppg, but if I had to choose I'd rather have the player who averages 1.32 PPG in the postseason for 62 games in his career than the one who manages to lead it for 12 games one playoffs.

And for the regular season, Crosby averages 1.388 ppg, which puts him top among active players and behind only Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy, and Orr.

Some Red Wings playoff ppg, by comparison:

Zetterberg: .952 (he's the only active Red Wings in the Top 50 all time)

Franzen : .867

Datsyuk: .752

So you agree Crosby is NOT the best PPG playoff performer. Nice! We agree!

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So you agree Crosby is NOT the best PPG playoff performer. Nice! We agree!

Aside from the tiny little tidbit of 25 fewer games. Ya know, other than that, yes. thumbup.gif

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This is just ridiculous.

Is the Crosby disliking over the top in here sometimes? Without question.

However, Carman you should be damned aware by now what you are getting yourself into stroking Crosby's ego often in over-the-top fashion on here in a Red Wings forum. If you want to like Crosby, cool, I have absolutely no problem with that and neither should anybody else in here. But you've been slammed for your over the top stances on him over and over again yet you still do the same thing. Either you don't get it, or you are just trolling or goading people for negative reactions to you on purpose. Either way, it's completely stupid. You should know damned well what you are getting yourself into here by now.

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There's some people in the Toronto media that think Crosby's done. Apparently he's stopped skating because of headaches.

I think i wave always been very brutal when it came to his name even being mentioned...but sid get well and get back to the game.

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