pucktividi 472 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 We are discussing about the majority of the Wings problem,but what to do with our PP? Nick's gone,Homer and Hudler likely,so we obviously need some new faces on our PP units. Don't get me wrong,I'll sing 'jingle bells'on the 1st of July if we'd manage to sign Parise and Suter ,but we should sign some player(s) with the 'shoot the puck mentality' on PP as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings4Life19 150 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 Alex Semin would be great if he felt like playing for a reasonable price or for most of the season 1 redwings8831 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted June 17, 2012 With Lids gone we'll probably rely less on point play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 With Lids gone we'll probably rely less on point play. I dont think so because we dont have the size to work it down low and into the dirty areas, especially on the power play when teams are trying to box it out and force it on the perimeter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 Chris Stewart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 Chris Stewart We all get your man love crush for Stewart..put it in your sig so we don't have to see you type his name every day ! 4 anthonyn66, pucktividi, MabusIncarnate and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 We all get your man love crush for Stewart..put it in your sig so we don't have to see you type his name every day ! Amen. +1. That and he just re-signed a 1 year deal according to the thread thats about him so not happening. 1 hooon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 Zack Parise and Ryan Suter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigWillieStyle 662 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 Chris Stewart This Chris Stewart? http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398405 Don't worry, our PP problems will be solved when Kenny signs Sheldon Souray to a multi year deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 According to Babs: Shoot it, get it back Shoot it, get it back Shoot it, get it back Shoot it, get it back Shoot it, get it back... ...Oh, and shoot it, get it back. (Not saying he's right or wrong. It's just funny.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 The best powerplays have the same things in common. On D you need a LH and RH shot. You need a F that can stand in front of the goal, and 2 other forwards that are good at passing AND shooting. We have some short comings here. Only 1 RH D on the team. Not sure who is going to stand in front of the net, and what F are great shooters? Great passing and plenty of LH D we have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 We really need focus on getting those dirty and ugly goals again. Holmstrom in his prime was a force in front of that net and our PP was stellar. Stewart is a non-option, not entirely sure why his name keeps being brought up, but realistically we need a replacement player for Holmstrom. Someone like Hornqvist or Neil who will plant their ass in front of the goalie and get some screens and deflections going. I watched game after game of 30-45 second passing surges that lead to finally being broken up or the shot being blocked or going wide. Before you know it a minute of the PP has gone by, our boys keep shuffling the puck around and the clock just seems to burn away. There was countless times on our PP this past season where I was yelling at the television "JUST SHOOT!". The Great One once said "You miss 100% of the shots you never take". We just gotta get back to basics, shoot a lot and grind for those bounces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan_indian 39 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 Entering the offensive zone is also an issue... We are very predictable and without datsyuk it was just pathetic last season.The new asst coaches need to come up with new ideas. And I cannot remember our last 5 on 3 goal.. I bet the PP% is even worse on 5 on 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) We really need focus on getting those dirty and ugly goals again. Holmstrom in his prime was a force in front of that net and our PP was stellar. Stewart is a non-option, not entirely sure why his name keeps being brought up, but realistically we need a replacement player for Holmstrom. Someone like Hornqvist or Neil who will plant their ass in front of the goalie and get some screens and deflections going. Smyth? I watched game after game of 30-45 second passing surges that lead to finally being broken up or the shot being blocked or going wide. Before you know it a minute of the PP has gone by, our boys keep shuffling the puck around and the clock just seems to burn away. There was countless times on our PP this past season where I was yelling at the television "JUST SHOOT!". Not saying I disagree, but it's been that way for a very, very long time. Edited June 17, 2012 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 "One too many passes" has remained a time-honoured tradition for about twenty seasons now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Semin-dats-Z, suter-kronner Mule-Filp-Bert, white-smith Maybe something like that assuming parise signs with jersey.. Edit not too sure about the second one tho. Depends how smith does. Might have to divide these two into two lines a different way but who knows Or maybe we do.. Semin-dats-Bert Z-Filp-mule And have bert and mule be the in front of the net guys then use dats-z-semin towards the ends of games/crucial pp's when we really need to score Edited June 17, 2012 by amato Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 Teach Ericsson how to aim at the net. 1 Ally reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted June 17, 2012 Teach Ericsson how to aim at the net. He had the best possible teacher in Lidstrom without significant improvement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted June 18, 2012 Well, one more righty on the point would help. Eaves can fill that role but I would much rather see him at one of the circles waiting to release his underrated one-timer. Ericsson should be on the PP at the point. He has a 100+mph slapshot and it is under used. Teach him to put it about knee height and let him go. If Homer leaves, Franzen and Bert are the obvious fillers of that role. A Ryan Smyth pick-up for 1 season would be a great idea, but I don't watch him all that much so I don't know if he brings anything other than a net front presence. With Nick gone I guess that a combo of Kronwall and Pavel/Z will QB the point play. Not saying that Pavel or Z will be taking shots from the blue line, but they may be starting plays from that far out and be the ones to take the puck into the PP zone. With the acquisition of Suter and/or Parise/Semin, any of these players will be on the 1st line unit IMO. Ideally, the lines would look something like this: Parise/Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Franzen Suter-Kronwall Bertuzzi-Flip/Z-Eaves/Semin Ericsson/Quincey-White 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted June 18, 2012 Ericsson should be on the PP at the point. He has a 100+mph slapshot and it is under used. Teach him to put it about knee height and let him go. 100+ mph doesn't mean much when it he has to pull his backswing all the way to the UP to fire it off, giving defenders plenty of time to get in his shooting lane. Better to teach him how to speed up his mechanics & give up a some on the mph to get the puck on net before there are bodies in the way. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick D 350 Report post Posted June 18, 2012 100+ mph doesn't mean much when it he has to pull his backswing all the way to the UP to fire it off, giving defenders plenty of time to get in his shooting lane. Better to teach him how to speed up his mechanics & give up a some on the mph to get the puck on net before there are bodies in the way. This applies to a guy standing in front of the net as well. It seems like it takes one guy out of the play for us. Their pk players match up one-on-one, the rest of our guys rip shots from the perimeter, and the shots get blocked before they get anywhere. We need more movement, more guys cycling down low, to break the opposing teams coverage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BamaWing 37 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 Righties. Versatility. Net Presence. Toughness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,962 Report post Posted June 19, 2012 This applies to a guy standing in front of the net as well. It seems like it takes one guy out of the play for us. Their pk players match up one-on-one, the rest of our guys rip shots from the perimeter, and the shots get blocked before they get anywhere. We need more movement, more guys cycling down low, to break the opposing teams coverage. Agreed! With the inevitable retirement of Holmstrom, I think the Wings need to establish more 2 on 1's in front of the net instead of the one guy standing there. Seems most folks have figure that out, especially last season...get it down low, cycle, get that 2 on 1 in front of the net... 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites