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Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

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Kronwall - Ericsson

Smith - DeKeyser

Lashoff - Griffin

^^^^ Is not a D corp I want entering the playoffs. We are weakest at D, why would we want to make that worse by making Lashoff a regular, a rookie a regular, and giving Smith more ice time? What happens if one, or even multiple, D-men go down with injuries? We'd really be up sh**s creek then. Just cause our young forwards have flourished this season doesn't mean our young D-men will too. Case and point: Smith and Kindl. We should be trimming forwards and adding defensive depth.

About Zidlicky, you're correct about his injuries. I think his injury in Minnesota a few years ago just stuck out in my mind cause he was on my fantasy team that year, other than that you're right, he's been pretty healthy. He's a great puck mover and for an offensive D-man he isn't afraid to hit at all. I just think members around here would start throwing fits about his defense... though he's no worse than Q and the gang at this point either like you said.

At the end of the day, whether he were to re-sign at the end of the season with us or not, at 37 years old he's a rental. I might be willing to part with our 1st for that this year, if the draft class really is as weak as they say.

You're forgetting that the whole point of moving those guys was to bring in Zidlicky (and Jagr in LWs proposal). Basically the same defense we have now, just with Zidlicky in Quincey's spot, and Ouellet/Marchenko/Sproul in the 7 spot. Depth may be a little worse, but the top 6 is better. It also frees up a bit of cap space.

But I agree that a lot of people here would hate him.

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And our top scoring forward is 66th in the nhl. Team is 19th in goals for. Defense would be fine if babs could have a proper lineup for once in his life.

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And our top scoring forward is 66th in the nhl. Team is 19th in goals for. Defense would be fine if babs could have a proper lineup for once in his life.

They have 3 top 4 d-men. Their top goal scorer has 16 goals and they're 19th in goals scored because all of their scorers have played fewer than 50 of their 58 potential games, and only Tatar has played in more than 80% of the possible games.

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And our top scoring forward is 66th in the nhl. Team is 19th in goals for. Defense would be fine if babs could have a proper lineup for once in his life.

Yeah any defense that relies on Smith, Kindl, Quincey, to fill out their second pair will not be "fine".

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Actually it would. Smith looked great when he was with kronwall so why not keep it going and have big e with dekeyser. OMG SOMETHING THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE noooooooo

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How can you judge our offense with all injuries that we had so far???

Our "new" 2nd line was complete for like 15 games... our biggest problem is our DEF and now there is Z injury also.

Our 1st line should be fine: Nyquist - Dats - Alf

2nd line: Jurco - Sheahan - Tatar

3rd line: Abdelkader - Helm - Weiss/Eaves

4th line: Miller - LG - Andersson/Eaves

Kenny should bring up Callahan - would love to see him on the 4th line.

Spares: Tootoo, Bert, Cleary

Still have Franzen and Z which could/should be back sometime (at least for the playoff's).

Our DEF is so bad: Smith should be playing with Kronwall, he was really solid with K.

DeKe - E

Kindl / Q = GARBAGE, bring up Marchenko and Ouellet at worst case but STOP playing those two.

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The reason why defense should be the priority is that addressing it would, in theory, help both our defense and our offense. Good offense starts with good defense. Good defense is a team concept, but it of course begins and ends with the blue line (and the man between the pipes, but yeah). A good blue line has a very strong top four. We have a decent top three with Kyle Quincey rounding out the top four. And then Brendan Smith and Jakub Kindl. If the goal is to go deep in the playoffs, our D corps is not going to cut it.

Putting Smith on the first pairing isn't really a plan for improvement. Nor is bringing up Callahan. We should be thinking about changes that might help us win a Cup.

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Tallinder in as a stop gap vet presence on the D. Quincey out to Boston/whoever have actually inquired about him.

All depends on how Pav is and if Z is out for the season, which i feel he may be. Weiss due back and will get the

chance to C the 2nd line for remainder of the year, Cleary and Bert will get a reprieve because of the 4 player

movement rule after the deadline. I dont see kenny doing more than that. This summer is where he will make the big

changes. Who ? the best D available hopefully.

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Tallinder in as a stop gap vet presence on the D. Quincey out to Boston/whoever have actually inquired about him.

All depends on how Pav is and if Z is out for the season, which i feel he may be. Weiss due back and will get the

chance to C the 2nd line for remainder of the year, Cleary and Bert will get a reprieve because of the 4 player

movement rule after the deadline. I dont see kenny doing more than that. This summer is where he will make the big

changes. Who ? the best D available hopefully.

He's literally a carbon copy of Ericsson, just older and declining. I like that he's a swede, but I just don't think another defense oriented guy is what we need. IMO we need that quarterback that can move things up the ice when Kronners is on the bench.

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I agree, i just dont see us getting one in before the deadline. Ive just put what i thought would happen this deadline, and as far as i can see Kenny wont be doing any more than that.

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I agree, i just dont see us getting one in before the deadline. Ive just put what i thought would happen this deadline, and as far as i can see Kenny wont be doing any more than that.

Yeah, my money is on a whole lotta nothing this deadline

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Yeah, my money is on a whole lotta nothing this deadline

I don't think we'll be seeing a lot of moves overall, most contenders are tight to the cap and safe for the obvious players Vanek, Miller, Callahan and Girardi there is not much outthere.

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With Tavares done for the season and Z potentially being out too it might open up an opportunity for the wings to take on Vanek before the deadline (provided we can agree on a deal long term). I know its a long shot but it is a nice opportunity considering the Isles no longer have the option to compete this year and we have so much cap space going forward to next year. It would be tough to give up our 1st considering it could be in that non-playoff lottery...

I would go nuts if we ended up drafting in the top 10 and got a guy like Draisaitl who we have no business getting in most years considering our traditional draft position.

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With Tavares done for the season and Z potentially being out too it might open up an opportunity for the wings to take on Vanek before the deadline (provided we can agree on a deal long term). I know its a long shot but it is a nice opportunity considering the Isles no longer have the option to compete this year and we have so much cap space going forward to next year. It would be tough to give up our 1st considering it could be in that non-playoff lottery...

I would go nuts if we ended up drafting in the top 10 and got a guy like Draisaitl who we have no business getting in most years considering our traditional draft position.

We could only do a deal like that if we were sure Hank was out for the remainder of the season. As of yet, I haven't seen anything to suggest we're even sure he'll be out the 10 games necessary to LTIR him at all.

That said, on the page linked in the Tavares injury thread, some Isles fan suggested trading Vanek and their first for Martin Jones. That'd be a move I think even Snow would be ashamed of (and technically I don't think they can trade their 1st at the deadline), but if we could pull off that kind of robbery... :)

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