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He definitely is, though I wish he'd score like this for the Kings.

It may be an unpopular opinion here but I'd take Doughty over anyone on the Wings blueline.

On a side note, what's the best place for finding Olympic hockey stats? Anything I've found is usually at least a day behind and kind of piecemeal.

IIHF.com

agree on Doughty as well :)

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No they're just bad at Defense I think they're both capable. I wouldn't count on getting 6 power plays in the medal rounds. Half our forwards could still finish the tournament without really getting it going and we'd still win gold just like last time

I wouldn't count on playing teams who's best defenseman is Sami Salo in the Medal rounds either, so maybe you should worry about your own team. They can't seem to skate, score, or play up to their potential and you're talking smack about Team USA? Haha, good try. Also, have fun against Russia. You'll see how little they play defense in a few days. By that time most of Team Canada should juuuuuuust about be catching their breath.

It might not be today, or tomorrow, or this week, but sooner or later you're going to realize that this ain't Vancouver, and the big ice is doing your boys no favors.

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I wouldn't count on playing teams who's best defenseman is Sami Salo in the Medal rounds either, so maybe you should worry about your own team. They can't seem to skate, score, or play up to their potential and you're talking smack about Team USA? Haha, good try. Also, have fun against Russia. You'll see how little they play defense in a few days. By that time most of Team Canada should juuuuuuust about be catching their breath.

I might not be today, or tomorrow, or this week, but sooner or later you're going to realize that this ain't Vancouver, and the big ice is doing your boys no favors.

I doubt Russia and US will be dumping it in without a forecheck and lining up at the blue line. Playing a team that tries to score goals will be a nice change for our forwards

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I doubt Russia and US will be dumping it in without a forecheck and lining up at the blue line. Playing a team that tries to score goals will be a nice change for our forwards

I feel like Canada has pretty much the greatest forward corps ever assembled. All we hear about is how monstrously deep they are and the countless different ways they can hurt you. So, "Yeah, well, all the teams they've played have been really good defensively"...that kinda rings hollow to me.

I do think there's something to what you're saying. And, like I said, I do fully expect "The REAL Team Canada" to emerge from its slumber now that they're past the prelims. But, any way you slice it, this can't be the kind of start Canada was hoping for. I mean, sure, a win is a win. But...dat lineup. It should be crushing a depleted Finnish team with one hand behind its back, meaningless game or not.

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He definitely is, though I wish he'd score like this for the Kings.

It may be an unpopular opinion here but I'd take Doughty over anyone on the Wings blueline.

On a side note, what's the best place for finding Olympic hockey stats? Anything I've found is usually at least a day behind and kind of piecemeal.

Not sure why it'd be an unpopular opinion, Doughty is one of the best defenceman in the world. I'd trade DK+Smith+1st for him in an instant, even though that'd never get it done. He's that good.

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I agree. I guess I assumed some people would think Kronner was better.

A few years ago I'd say it's close. But neither are particularly good defensively (ok at best for both) and they both score about as much as each other, but Kronner will only get worse moving forward while Doughty will only get better.

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Not sure why it'd be an unpopular opinion, Doughty is one of the best defenceman in the world. I'd trade DK+Smith+1st for him in an instant, even though that'd never get it done. He's that good.

Hell, I'd consider trading Datsyuk.

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Well I hope for your sake you're right. Because of that s***ty, half assed performance, they now have to go through Russia to get to the Gold Medal game and I can promise you those guys can skate just as well as Finland AND score on their chances. Good luck with that.

You do realize that the most likely scenario for a Canada/Russia game at this point is IN the gold medal game, right? Canadas path (assuming everything goes as it should) Would be Switzerland, USA, then Russia.

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Getting carried away boys. Datsyuk for Doughty...no. All around good defenseman...no. Doughty is an offensive defenseman who's decent defensively and above average offensively. While he's got the potential to round out his game and play above average two ways in the years to come, so far he's a young guy who's had one 50 pt. season and a lot of growing to do defensively.


You do realize that the most likely scenario for a Canada/Russia game at this point is IN the gold medal game, right? Canadas path (assuming everything goes as it should) Would be Switzerland, USA, then Russia.

Either you, or the announcers during the game were wrong. They stated during the Canada game that the US would not have to play Canada or Russia again unless it was in the gold medal game. I was basing my info off that. If they're wrong, then so am I.

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Nope. Doughty is one of the few Dmen in the league that's an all-around better player than Kronwall. Doughty is an eff'n rockstar!

And one of the couple of D men that at time makes Pasha looks human.The other one(hate to say it)is Keith

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Getting carried away boys. Datsyuk for Doughty...no. All around good defenseman...no. Doughty is an offensive defenseman who's decent defensively and above average offensively. While he's got the potential to round out his game and play above average two ways in the years to come, so far he's a young guy who's had one 50 pt. season and a lot of growing to do defensively.

Either you, or the announcers during the game were wrong. They stated during the Canada game that the US would not have to play Canada or Russia again unless it was in the gold medal game. I was basing my info off that. If they're wrong, then so am I.

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Love how people already buried Finland,Slovakia/Czech Republic and Switzerland like today's games were ancient history.One of them will upset in the QF :lol:

I think Finland have a really good shot at upsetting Russia. They have a much better goalie and if they play this kind of disciplined, grinding defense they will be incredibly tough to beat, add to that the classic Rus-Fin animosity and that game is a must watch!

Also there are no free passes in the olympics ;)

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People don't realize how good Doughty's defensive game is. He's a great skater who plays really hard, is physical, and of course we all know about his offensive abilities. He's rarely out of position. Let's not forget that he's one of those guys who thrives on the big stage, whether it's the playoffs or the Olympics. Franchise defenceman for the next ten years at least, I'd give up almost anyone on our team to have him.

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One of my favorite things about the Olympics is how all the NHL animosities you build up for players, and all the free rides you give players in the NHL, go right out the window. Which is why Ryan Kesler can be totally rehabilitated in the minds of American fans for blocking a shot, while half of Canada's forward can go from being superstars to bums in a close game. Everything is topsy turvy.

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One of my favorite things about the Olympics is how all the NHL animosities you build up for players, and all the free rides you give players in the NHL, go right out the window. Which is why Ryan Kesler can be totally rehabilitated in the minds of American fans for blocking a shot, while half of Canada's forward can go from being superstars to bums in a close game. Everything is topsy turvy.

I hate Shea Weber, but I love him for Canada, same with Crosby, Keith, Toews...

Your right, it's amazing!

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He definitely is, though I wish he'd score like this for the Kings.

It may be an unpopular opinion here but I'd take Doughty over anyone on the Wings blueline

Not really. Doughty is consensus top 10, Kronner is consensus 10-20

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