nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 I gotta say I'm kind of annoyed with people on the radio and tv overlooking the wings like they got no chance at winning the division and it's all bruins habs and tampa (although pierre McGuire did just say people will be surprised at how many good prospects they'll see that detroit has in the next few years) I look at last year and Weiss missed 56 games Helm 40 Zetterberg 37 Datsyuk 37 Ericsson 34 Franzen 28 Dekeyser 17 Besides last season and the shortened season we hit 100+pts 12 years in a row (and we still hit 93pts with all those injuries last year) I know some will say we had lidstrom , and your right but we still got a great roster and promising young players along with the best coach and maybe I'm being naive cause I'm a die hard wings fan but I think we can compete and win our division So just wondering, are the wings underrated? Or we clearly on the decline? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 We are rebuilding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 426 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 In my view the Wings did just fine last year considering changing conference and with all the injuries. Obviously the playoffs were disappointing. But when they don't go far they always are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themcityblues 249 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 I don't know, I don't think we are under-rated. I think this team has a lot of unrecognized potential, but it's just potential at this point and it's up to the Wings to prove to everybody they aren't a playoff bubble team. 2 T.Low and jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 426 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 It would help to have Ericsson back. Last year was tough on the D. Although it's nice to give the young guys a chance to grow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 A team that can barely make it out of the first round once in the last 3 seasons is not underrated. Everyone knows the team is in a mini-rebuild mode. 2 F.Michael and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 A team that can barely make it out of the first round once in the last 3 seasons is not underrated. Everyone knows the team is in a mini-rebuild mode. Last summer we were hyped as a contender for the division. Now we're not after struggling through last season with injuries. And we essentially have the same team as last season. It's all perspective. 3 krsmith17, nyqvististhefuture and 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 I think this is the best team we've had in a few years, assuming we stay healthy and one year ago we could have won the Cup. I think we're a little underrated right now. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 Last summer we were hyped as a contender for the division. Now we're not after struggling through last season with injuries. And we essentially have the same team as last season. It's all perspective. That prediction for last season was essentially just based on the fact that we played above our heads the year before in the playoffs, and because we were moving east. Nobody who seriously looked at our defense would have believed we were going to contend for the division. Even without injuries its not like we were setting the world on fire the first part of the season. I'd say we were worse than we appeared at the beginning of last season, and (if Babcock truly ices the best squad) we're slightly better than we appear this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 I think this is the best team we've had in a few years, assuming we stay healthy and one year ago we could have won the Cup. I think we're a little underrated right now. What Cup could we have won last season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 What Cup could we have won last season? Guessing he means when we had Chicago on the ropes. That was still pretty damn far from winning the cup though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted September 29, 2014 Guessing he means when we had Chicago on the ropes. That was still pretty damn far from winning the cup though. Yes. If we had beat Chicago I still believe we would have won the cup or at least had a legitimate chance to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 We would've been the underdog going into both remaining series so believing that we probably would've won is a bit optimistic I'd say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 A team that can barely make it out of the first round once in the last 3 seasons is not underrated. Everyone knows the team is in a mini-rebuild mode. GMR......you gonna come watch with us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 We were? Yup... Ppl forget quick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 That prediction for last season was essentially just based on the fact that we played above our heads the year before in the playoffs, and because we were moving east. Nobody who seriously looked at our defense would have believed we were going to contend for the division. Even without injuries its not like we were setting the world on fire the first part of the season. I'd say we were worse than we appeared at the beginning of last season, and (if Babcock truly ices the best squad) we're slightly better than we appear this season. Last season was by far one of the weirdest seasons I've seen. Not sure I can really draw any conclusions from it. The year before we took the Hawks deep in an early round. I don't think that's playing over our heads. They won a series they were predicted to win. We put up a helluva fight against a rival. Tends to happen. The injuries were unpredictable and ridiculous. The beginning of the season was bad puck luck and just the entire team in one big slump. I actually think the injuries helped in a sense, bc the called up kids sparked the rest of the team. I think this team really is underrated in a sense. We have some very good players at all positions, and very good young players at all positions. In the end I think we're probably middle of the pack come playoffs if last seasons bad fortunes don't repeat themselves. 3 kliq, krsmith17 and nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 What Cup could we have won last season? The Memorial Cup...easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 Yes. If we had beat Chicago I still believe we would have won the cup or at least had a legitimate chance to. "If". A team that can't close a series out after taking a 3 games to 1 lead has no business winning the Cup, and probably wouldn't have. 3 Fred_Bear, Internet.Unknown and kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 In my opinion non red wing fans and media underrate the wings because they love prospects and the next it team however wings fans clearly overrate the wings so it should be somewhere in be tween Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 156 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 No way we get past the Kings AND the Bruins in 2013. The Wings might be a little underrated this year. If they stay very healthy and if all the reports of improvements the players have made (stronger, faster, different routine, health) over the summer are accurate, they could make some noise in the division and maybe in the playoffs. The injury bug is already biting though, and I don't see them winning the division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 In my opinion non red wing fans and media underrate the wings because they love prospects and the next it team however wings fans clearly overrate the wings so it should be somewhere in be tween I would disagree with this. I believe most Wings fans right now are completely underrating the Wings due to the frustration they have with the style of re-build the Wings are undertaking. Some fans have expectations of immediate results, and the fact that we have not been contenders for a few years just eats away at some. You cant read a single thread on this board (which is filled with die-hards) without reading how how "Holland ruined this team". I think fans underrate them, I think overall the media are somewhere in the middle. 4 PavelValerievichDatsyuk, 13dangledangle, krsmith17 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 "If". A team that can't close a series out after taking a 3 games to 1 lead has no business winning the Cup, and probably wouldn't have. The only reason we played so well in those playoffs was Howard. He's been average in the other playoffs he's had, and look how that turned out for the team. We don't have enough talent to win without a hot goalie. No way we get past the Kings AND the Bruins in 2013. The Wings might be a little underrated this year. If they stay very healthy and if all the reports of improvements the players have made (stronger, faster, different routine, health) over the summer are accurate, they could make some noise in the division and maybe in the playoffs. The injury bug is already biting though, and I don't see them winning the division. The Kings looked gassed in 2013. Especially coming off the Cup win. Boston would have murdered us, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMatt89 63 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 A serious contender is the full lineup is healthy come April 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 The only reason we played so well in those playoffs was Howard. He's been average in the other playoffs he's had, and look how that turned out for the team. We don't have enough talent to win without a hot goalie. The Kings looked gassed in 2013. Especially coming off the Cup win. Boston would have murdered us, though. I'm not saying you are wrong, but this can be said for most teams come playoff time. Its very hard for a team to play well for 4 rounds if they dont have a hot goalie for the majority of it. 4 derblaueClaus, Hockeymom1960, krsmith17 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 How can anyone say the wings are underrated? Lol They have lots of UNPROVEN talent. They had lots of injury prone talent. They have several over the hill guys. In fact I think it's pretty clear what the wings are. And if by some miracle they stay healthy and all live up to their hype this team would be a pleasant surprise. But after these last few seasons it's extremely foolish to think that'll happen. 2 frankgrimes and T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites