WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) Myers easily fetches one of tatar/nyquist/mantha AND one of our top D prospects. Mrazek would come into question as well. Kindl and weiss have literally no trade value Edited October 11, 2014 by WingsallTheway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 I have a hard time seeing Weiss waive his NTC to go to Buffalo. Kindl has 0 trade value, Weiss would probably just get us a pick...a lower one at that. Just waive Kindl, he has enough experience that someone would probably pick him up as an experiment. That way his cap comes off our hit. If Weiss would submit 5-10 teams he would like to go a play with, a 4th round pick is probably the best he would fetch in return. I like Weiss, although I haven't seen enough of him to know how much, but obviously there is something that us fans don't know and he is just not going to get the chance here. Either way, if he isn't going to play, his $5M would come in handy while kicking some tires around. That way we could also keep Nesty up when Pav gets healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 I have a hard time seeing Weiss waive his NTC to go to Buffalo. Kindl has 0 trade value, Weiss would probably just get us a pick...a lower one at that. Just waive Kindl, he has enough experience that someone would probably pick him up as an experiment. That way his cap comes off our hit. If Weiss would submit 5-10 teams he would like to go a play with, a 4th round pick is probably the best he would fetch in return. I like Weiss, although I haven't seen enough of him to know how much, but obviously there is something that us fans don't know and he is just not going to get the chance here. Either way, if he isn't going to play, his $5M would come in handy while kicking some tires around. That way we could also keep Nesty up when Pav gets healthy. I laughed. We could kick countless tires with that kind of money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 Kindl and weiss For Myers, reports coming in that myers is back on the trading block ....from malik. I would like this deal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'd love Weiss packaged up for Myers, but I'm not understanding why Buff would let him go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 Murray is not an idiot, no way we are getting Tyler for Kindl and Weiss. 1 anthonyn66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) Murray is not an idiot, no way we are getting Tyler for Kindl and Weiss. Agreed, but if we did that would be awesome! Edited October 11, 2014 by kliq 2 frankgrimes and anthonyn66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 Agreed, but if we that would be awesome! I'd book a flight to america, take a cab to the JLA and drive both to the airport if Buffalo makes that trade *g* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted October 24, 2014 Anyone hear that Buffalo asked for Larkin+Kindl for Myers and we turned them down? That's what I'm hearing anyways, I don't have a source though. Looking for something legit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted October 24, 2014 Anyone hear that Buffalo asked for Larkin+Kindl for Myers and we turned them down? That's what I'm hearing anyways, I don't have a source though. Looking for something legit. Ya it's in the rumors section. From Darren dreger think? He would get us our righty but then we got no room for defenseman until Quincey goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Ya it's in the rumors section. From Darren dreger think? He would get us our righty but then we got no room for defenseman until Quincey goes. Yeah, I stumbled across that while searching for a source. It wasn't directly from Dreger though, I don't think. And evidently it's yesterday's news. Edited October 24, 2014 by rrasco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Ya it's in the rumors section. From Darren dreger think? He would get us our righty but then we got no room for defenseman until Quincey goes. We make room ? ... If it's true ... Larkin kindl for myers ... Trade smith/howard in a package for eberle and call up mrazek to take over with monster getting a bit more starts than now and then we call up ouellet Yes Howard's been awesome thus far(which can up his trade value)but I think mrazek is a star in the making and Larkin May be good but we got a lot of good forward prospects coming and I think although myers struggled he can get back to the player buffalo thought he would be here Zetterberg datsyuk eberle Nyquist sheahan Franzen Tatar helm jurco Miller glendening abdelkader Kronwall Ericsson Myers dekeyser Quincey ouellet Mrazek Monster Edited October 24, 2014 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 24, 2014 We make room ? ... If it's true ... Larkin kindl for myers ... Trade smith/howard in a package for eberle and call up mrazek to take over with monster getting a bit more starts than now and then we call up ouellet Yes Howard's been awesome thus far(which can up his trade value)but I think mrazek is a star in the making and Larkin May be good but we got a lot of good forward prospects coming and I think although myers struggled he can get back to the player buffalo thought he would be here Zetterberg datsyuk eberle Nyquist sheahan Franzen Tatar helm jurco Miller glendening abdelkader Kronwall Ericsson Myers dekeyser Quincey ouellet Mrazek Monster Smith shouldnt be traded for anyone hes our only solid offensive defenceman. Let alone for eberle..... eberle is one of my favorite players but we would be getting owned here. He is being pushed out the door by edmonton fans, which should be saying something. Also, with regards to howard: Mrazek is almost without a question our future goaltender, but gustavsson is good for maybe 15 games a season, otherwise hes hurt. Do you want to run a tandem of Mrazek + Mcollum with our skeptical defence? We would get lit up. Bad trade ideas. 1 sjr2012 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted October 24, 2014 Wings aren't going to hand the net to Mrazek . and Smith is the only solid offensive d-man? Kronwall would like to say something about that. 2 redwing92 and nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 He was at his brutal best last night that's for sure. Send him packing for pucks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 Smith barely contributes to the offense at all, he doesn't score goals and he's not on the PP. How exactly is he an offensive defenseman?? 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Wings aren't going to hand the net to Mrazek . and Smith is the only solid offensive d-man? Kronwall would like to say something about that. Maybe smith should be given equal time as him in pp and we will see. Smith barely contributes to the offense at all, he doesn't score goals and he's not on the PP. How exactly is he an offensive defenseman??Last year. 5 on 5 he had THE MOST points of our defenseman in less time in ice..... And still doesn't get pp time lol Edited October 25, 2014 by DeGraa55 1 WingsallTheway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 Maybe smith should be given equal time as him in pp and we will see. Last year. 5 on 5 he had THE MOST points of our defenseman in less time in ice..... And still doesn't get pp time lol It's always easier to get points with less ice time and against other teams bottom lines. It's all assists though, they guy doesn't score and isn't very offensive by any measure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) hell no to trading Larkin...just forget it. We already lost Jarnkrok for a rental. The only way I am trading Larkin in a package is if the name coming back is Weber or Suter...in other words, I am not trading him. This kid is legit. I am not going to trade him in the hopes that Myers refinds his game. It would be better to dump K and just promote Jensen for that right handed presence. No I am not saying Jensen is better than Myers, but its better to keep Larkin. Offer them Helm and Kindl, now we're talking. Edited October 25, 2014 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Smith shouldnt be traded for anyone hes our only solid offensive defenceman. Let alone for eberle..... eberle is one of my favorite players but we would be getting owned here. He is being pushed out the door by edmonton fans, which should be saying something. Also, with regards to howard: Mrazek is almost without a question our future goaltender, but gustavsson is good for maybe 15 games a season, otherwise hes hurt. Do you want to run a tandem of Mrazek + Mcollum with our skeptical defence? We would get lit up. Bad trade ideas. Eberle is a clutch player ... Sadly there's been nothing to play for in Edmonton .... Fans are pushing him out the door because they need to trade one of the kids to get better and yakupov has been a bust and hall is easily there best player and hopkins is a center so they won't get rid of himAnd as for smith I added him because he played with Schultz so I thought maybe Edmonton would want him , yes smith has played good but losing him would be far from the end of the world especially when we have ouellet jensen sproul backman marchenko waiting to get a shot Edited October 25, 2014 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 Smith barely contributes to the offense at all, he doesn't score goals and he's not on the PP. How exactly is he an offensive defenseman?? Thats not that unusual for a defenseman though. Last year Smith had 5 goals in 70 games, in comparison PK Subban had 10 goals in 82 games, Keith Yandle had 8 goals in 82 games. The Weber's and Karlsson's of the world are very rare. At the end of the day most defenseman dont score alot of goals. If they cant contribute with assists, move the puck, and get shots through from the blue line, offensively I'm happy. 3 WingsallTheway, nyqvististhefuture and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 hell no to trading Larkin...just forget it. We already lost Jarnkrok for a rental. The only way I am trading Larkin in a package is if the name coming back is Weber or Suter...in other words, I am not trading him. This kid is legit. I am not going to trade him in the hopes that Myers refinds his game. It would be better to dump K and just promote Jensen for that right handed presence. No I am not saying Jensen is better than Myers, but its better to keep Larkin. Offer them Helm and Kindl, now we're talking. From what I read he's projected to be a 3rd line center? And a leader? Doesn't sound like losing him would be the end of the world when we got nastasiuk bertuzzi mantha athanasiou and others just waiting But ya if we do get myers it's not the end of the world either when we got a lot of good d's coming up Maybe they'd take turgeon with kindl and more ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 It's always easier to get points with less ice time and against other teams bottom lines. It's all assists though, they guy doesn't score and isn't very offensive by any measure. He was tied for the most 5 on 5 goals and had the most assist if I remember right....so wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 678 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 He was tied for the most 5 on 5 goals and had the most assist if I remember right....so wrong. Most points from a defenseman on this team is not a great measuring stick. If the wings are going to be contenders the defense needs to improve (as a whole I believe) on transitioning to the offensive zone. I like Smith a lot and he may get there, he is still young. 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 Smith shouldnt be traded for anyone hes our only solid offensive defenceman. Let alone for eberle..... eberle is one of my favorite players but we would be getting owned here. He is being pushed out the door by edmonton fans, which should be saying something. Also, with regards to howard: Mrazek is almost without a question our future goaltender, but gustavsson is good for maybe 15 games a season, otherwise hes hurt. Do you want to run a tandem of Mrazek + Mcollum with our skeptical defence? We would get lit up. Bad trade ideas. Totally agree with you... no chance we're trading Smith - he's got upward trajectory and I has the DRW attitude to be a future leader. Howard is still our guy. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't. Next year we will have a two-headed monster in goal (sorry Monster) You have to give Holland credit for slow playing. This Weiss non-sense sucks, but at the time many people saw him as an upgrade over Val - I WAS NOT ONE OF THEM. I LOVE(D) VAL. But at this point it is what it is. At this point I saw we eat his salary and buy him out in the off-season. Here's what I want: Gus-Z-Mule Helm-Pav-Abby Tatar-Shehan-Jurco (this needs to be the 3rd line, not the 2nd) Andy-Glen-Miller (this has been a great defensive line and their chemistry has been amazing) Waive cleary when Mule gets back - he's never seeing the ice on this team. Kronner-smith Q-DK Ericsson-Kindl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted October 26, 2014 I hear Eric Staal might be available... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites