chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 But Mrazek's a rookie. Exactly. Zero excuse for Howard's play, especially when we KNOW he can play MUCH better, even steal us a game now and then. It's his 6th season as starter, and he makes 5 million a season. He's hardly new to the NHL game. Time to earn that money and stop being such a sieve when he's capable of alot more. 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimeBinder 28 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Why not mrazek now?? It's not like we are riding a hot goalie & call Marchenko back up?? we need a shake up! 2 chaps80 and roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Cleary couldn't have been more useless than Andersson today. Andersson needs to be relegated to water boy for the rest of his tenure in Detroit. So useless. Blows my mind he's even in the NHL at all. Why not mrazek now?? It's not like we are riding a hot goalie & call Marchenko back up?? we need a shake up! It's worth a shot. And I agree about Marchenko. He can have Ericssons spot. 2 roboturner and TimeBinder reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsAlways 486 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 For those that didn't see the game. I'd like to quickly recap it. It started like this: Followed by this: And ending with the WIngs doing this: Best recap ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Best recap ever. They've been slowly doing that last part for awhile now. Playoffs slipping away.... 2 puckloo39 and wings87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowings00 545 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 What is the argument again for Howard just being an Average goalie? I honestly don't know why people get so upset with that. 1 WingsAlways reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 What is the argument again for Howard just being an Average goalie? I honestly don't know why people get so upset with that. Meh. Just pisses me off cause I know he has it in him to be an elite goaltender, but we barely ever see it. 1 WingsAlways reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I dont think anyone is a fan. The guys hasnt worked out. The fact they tried moving him at the deadline proves they are ready to rid themselves of the mistake. Holland panicked and signed a guy at the age where players start to decline for way to much money. Then basically missing two years of meaningful hockey compounded the issue. Weiss is 31. He was signed at 29 (Or maybe 30 depending on his birthday. That is not "the age where players start to decline." But, yes, I think it's time for him to move on. He played well when he first came in this year. You could make an argument that his current struggles have something to do with confidence issues that could be from Babcock putting him on the 4th line even when he'd played well. But, anyway, It just seems to be a situation that would be hard to turn around at this point. Edited March 14, 2015 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Weiss is 31. He was signed at 29 (Or maybe 30 depending on his birthday. That is not "the age where players start to decline." But, yes, I think it's time for him to move on. He played well when he first came in this year. You could make an argument that his current struggles have something to do with confidence issues that could be from Babcock putting him on the 4th line even when he'd played. But, anyway, It just seems to be a situation that would be hard to turn around at this point. When Weiss came in this year and played well, I thought here we go, Wings are finally gonna get the player they signed, but does'nt look that way. I think it's best he moves on after July 1 as well, but with the Babcock situation still up in the air, if he does'nt resign, then whoever our next coach is, he may use Weiss more. Weird situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 When Weiss came in this year and played well, I thought here we go, Wings are finally gonna get the player they signed, but does'nt look that way. I think it's best he moves on after July 1 as well, but with the Babcock situation still up in the air, if he does'nt resign, then whoever our next coach is, he may use Weiss more. Weird situation. Ya like I don't get it, today was the perfect day to try weiss with Nyq and pulk when they moved Sheahan up instead babs uses glenny on that line where he shouldn't be. Glendening is a 4th line center and pk guy nothing more and nothing less, he should never move from that spot 2 WingsAlways and chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 I def don't get how Weiss can be a healthy scratch while Andersson plays. That's hilarious. 2 Detroit \# 1 Fan and WingsAlways reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Aha! Funny. Go f*** yourself. That escalated quickly. For a guy who only surf's the boards and posts when we lose and only bashes the team constantly says we will lose, you seem to have gotten extremely angry at a joke. 1 rick zombo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themcityblues 249 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Is Weiss' contract really up at the end of the year? I thought it was 4 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Is Weiss' contract really up at the end of the year? I thought it was 4 years He has 3 more after this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Is Weiss' contract really up at the end of the year? I thought it was 4 years 5. He's signed for another 3 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Is Weiss' contract really up at the end of the year? I thought it was 4 years It was said that he was talked about in trades at the deadline. When people are saying "move on" we mean let us trade him since he had a NTC. I'm sure Weiss would welcome a fresh start if it were possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 The number 90 should be retired from use by any red wing after Weiss leaves us 3 chaps80, Dominator2005 and WingsAlways reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 The number 90 should be retired from use by any red wing after Weiss leaves us lol Yep. Def. has'nt been a lucky one for us the past few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 My thoughts on this game is shared with this guy. Except he's unlucky and had to witness that live. 2 derblaueClaus and roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsAlways 486 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 My thoughts on this game is shared with this guy. Except he's unlucky and had to witness that live. ^ The new definition of facepalm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 So Brendan smith on the first pair for two goals against at even strength today. Can everybody who thought that was a good idea raise your hand...and then go purge yourself of other bad ideas. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aznknight 139 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 lol.....breathe....lol. We're in trouble Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 My thoughts on this game is shared with this guy. Except he's unlucky and had to witness that live. Poor bastard. Buys front row seats to see his team pummeled. In an opposing arena no less. 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) So Brendan smith on the first pair for two goals against at even strength today. Can everybody who thought that was a good idea raise your hand...and then go purge yourself of other bad ideas. I do and I still think it's a good idea. Smith was our best D-man out there today, admittedly in a team effort where my grandmother probably would have been our best player (and she's dead). But using this game of all games to pick on Smith is strange to say the least. Same goes for the people who complain about Howard btw. This teams problems are certainly not named Jimmy Howard or Brendan Smith. Edited March 14, 2015 by derblaueClaus 3 PavelValerievichDatsyuk, GoWings1905 and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 I do and I still think it's a good idea. Smith was our best D-man out there today, admittedly in a team effort where my grandmother probably would have been our best player (and she's dead). But using this game of all games to pick on Smith is strange to say the least. Same goes for the people who complain about Howard btw. This teams problems are certainly not named Jimmy Howard or Brendan Smith. Howard had a .809 save% today. That's a problem when it's your starting goaltender. 3 roboturner, Ekmanc and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites