SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/06/petersen-will-agency.html Holland needs to go all-in for Petersen. This guy could be exactly what we are looking for and will be far more NHL ready than any prospect this draft. 1 minute ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Vatanen had a down year, but boy I'd ship out AA for him. AA is electrifying and entertaining for sure, but right now he looks at best to be a Top 9 guy, not a Top 3 or even Top 6. Yep, and the thing is, you gotta give to get. 18 minutes ago, DickieDunn said: Defense is part of offense. A large part of the offensive struggles is a lack of guys on the blue line who can get the puck from the other team, make a good transition pass, join the rush and bury chances when they get them. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Exactly, it's something we've been sorely missing since the Lidstrom and Rafalski days. Green tries, but I feel like the coaches hinder him a little bit. Kronwall is no longer an offensive threat, too. Outside of that, we don't really have a blue line that provides much more than outlet passes. We need those point guys who can actually produce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, e_prime said: So, if you think Vatanen is worth it, put together your "stepped up" offer to convince the Ducks to trade him? There's no need for Anaheim to move Vatanen, unless some team offers up something they can't refuse. I wouldn't overpay for him, certainly wouldn't trade Athansiou or Svechnikov plus. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: There's no need for Anaheim to move Vatanen, unless some team offers up something they can't refuse. I wouldn't overpay for him, certainly wouldn't trade Athansiou or Svechnikov plus. So you think Athanasiou plus, say a mid-round pick for Vatanen is overpayment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: There's no need for Anaheim to move Vatanen, unless some team offers up something they can't refuse. I wouldn't overpay for him, certainly wouldn't trade Athansiou or Svechnikov plus. Yeah, there isn't a need to move him. It's pretty much stated by LeBrun the only way they're moving him is if they get "wow'ed" by an offer. What I'm reading from your "wouldn't overpay for him" is "not really the top tier defenseman we're looking for." I don't have a good read on the guy which is why I'm asking what people think it would take to get him, and whether we should make an offer to begin with... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Little nugget of hope for all yall Mrazek-Slappies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Little nugget of hope for all yall Mrazek-Slappies They're probably better off waiting until free agency: -Ryan Miller -Jonathan Bernier -Ondrej Pavelec -Brian Elliott -Chad Johnson -Michael Leighton -Mike Condon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Little nugget of hope for all yall Mrazek-SlappiesTitle should be "Flyers look to ruin another goalie's career". They've struggled in goal since Hextall, and that's not a joke. Shipped out Bobrovsky (who wasn't the goalie he is now) for Mason. And wouldn't ya know, Bob becomes yearly Vezina material. Signed Bryz for $10 million a season for ten years, he flops the moment the Flying P hits his chest, and is bought out after one season. Many, many more examples too.I do like that one poster's idea of Howard/9th for the 2nd though. But it won't happen.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, chaps80 said: is bought out after one season. I had no idea. That's insane! 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 They're probably better off waiting until free agency: -Ryan Miller -Jonathan Bernier -Ondrej Pavelec -Brian Elliott -Chad Johnson -Michael Leighton -Mike CondonMiller isn't what he was and will want paid, Elliott is coming off a bad season ( could rebound and would be cheap though). The rest are backups. Leighton got the Flyers to the Finals once, but doubtful he repeats that.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shocky2002 36 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 The. Hawks. Will. Not. Win. Another. Cup. In. This. Era. I still can't believe they're paying Toews 10 million dollars for 50 point seasons. Ahahahahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 I had no idea. That's insane!Indeed. It wasn't a bad signing at the time, although it was a bit too much cash and term. But, he had been pretty stellar in Anaheim and Arizona before hitting UFA, and there was a lot of interest in him, and he wanted big money and long term. Philly desperately needed a proven #1 ( as they always do), ponied up the cash to beat all other offers, but Bryz did not fill his end of the deal. At all.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hankzet40 233 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Quote Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrunSo full deal: Panarin, Motte and 6th Rd pick this year to Columbus for Saad, Forsberg and 5th Rd pick 2018 Ok then. Apparently Toews and Kane loved Saad so much they wanted him back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Bryz's deal was like humongous big! 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Blackhawks acquire Connor Murphy and Laurent Dauphin from Arizona, in exchange for Niklas Hjalmarsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Trades are hard. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hankzet40 233 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Uh oh Hawks? 1 ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Stepan and Raanta to the Yotes for Deangelo and the 7th overall. Holy s*** it's all happening now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Re: Hamonic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 1 minute ago, amato said: Re: Hamonic Holland gotta back off on this one if true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 The Carolina Hurricanes are entertaining calls and offers for young defenseman Noah Hanifin, who was drafted fifth-overall in 2015. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Andy Pred 48 said: The Carolina Hurricanes are entertaining calls and offers for young defenseman Noah Hanifin, who was drafted fifth-overall in 2015. Holland gotta jump on this one if true Also, why the s*** would the Canes be shopping him of all their dmen?! Edited June 23, 2017 by marcaractac 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Andy Pred 48 said: The Carolina Hurricanes are entertaining calls and offers for young defenseman Noah Hanifin, who was drafted fifth-overall in 2015. Kenny plz.... 2 BadgerBob and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 So with the original Saad trade + this one and all the dust settled afterwards Chicago receives Saad Anisimov Panik Ladd Harrison Fraser Jackman A. Forsberg 4th 5th 7th (Lose Rubstov to Philly)CBJ receives Panarin Broadhurst Paliotta Motte 6th The aftermath makes it seem like Chicago is winning in this relationship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, e_prime said: So, if you think Vatanen is worth it, put together your "stepped up" offer to convince the Ducks to trade him? Don't know what the offers have been, but Nyquist and Sproul a pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites