Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I'd consider it if a player I don't really want also goes in the top 5, and there are still 3 or 4 players I really like on the board. But the furthest I would trade back would be 2-3 spots, and it would have to be a considerable offer, like a late 1st / early 2nd round pick... Who are you targeting if you trade back? Soderstrom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 1, 2019 50 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Who are you targeting if you trade back? Soderstrom? No. One of Turcotte, Zegras or maybe Caufield for me. 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, krsmith17 said: I'd consider it if a player I don't really want also goes in the top 5, and there are still 3 or 4 players I really like on the board. But the furthest I would trade back would be 2-3 spots, and it would have to be a considerable offer, like a late 1st / early 2nd round pick... Ya it’s a tough spot for me , like the possibilities of quite a few guys at 6 podkolzin,zegras,turcotte,caufield But then I’m thinking if teams are actually scared of podkolzin cause he’s Russian or caufield cause he’s short and we can grab one at 9 let’s say and then have the possibility of adding John beecher with another pick or fagemo,bjornfot,puistola And basically end up with 2 of 4 of those guys by pick 39 I’d be pretty pumped but I’d be satisfied if we just stuck to 6 , maybe we can move the 54 and say the Vegas 2021 3rd or something similar and get in the top 40,it’ll be a pretty fun draft to watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 12 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Another guy that is too early to take at 6 and likely won't be around at 35... Tampa's giving us their 1st for Callahan tho. 12 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Any reason you don't want Zegras? Neo hates the US and freedom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 I still think this could be the homerun pick for someone in the top 10. https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2019/06/02/2019-nhl-draft-why-cole-caufield-should-tempt-detroit-red-wings/1312467001/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 I'd actually be pretty damn happy if they drafted Caufield. I guess the reality is that there are so many kids that will help us moving forward, can we really go wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Dabura said: Tampa's giving us their 1st for Callahan tho. Neo hates the US and freedom. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Dabura said: Tampa's giving us their 1st for Callahan tho. That would be nice, but a 1st round pick AND Taylor Raddysh may be a bit steep... 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 The more I read/see about these guys, the more there seems to be excited about around this draft class. I still REALLY hope Byram somehow falls to us, but when he doesn't, there are so many forward prospects to be excited about. Any of Zegras, Turcotte, Cozens, Podkolzin, Caulfield and I'll be happy. Trading back is tempting with so many options, but I think if whoever "our guy" is, if we have one, is on the board when we pick we should take him instead of risking trading back. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 17 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Any reason you don't want Zegras? He wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd be thrilled to add a player like him to the pipeline at 6th overall... For me, it's Byram, Cozens, Turcotte, Zegras, trade back, in that order. It's a very real possibility that my three faves will be gone at 6, and Zegras will be my BPA. There are several players that I would be happy with, but my top 3 are Byram, then Podholzin, then Cozens. Honestly, if none of those 3 are available at 6 (doubtful) I look to trade back a few spots, acquire another 2nd and then draft BPA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) As of now my picks I hope we target 1 - podkolzin/turcotte/zegras/caufield ... I’m assuming byram will be gone, if we decide to trade back to add another late first, early second I’d consider a boldy but those are my 4 If we pick 6-8 2/3rd rd picks - beecher/fagemo/bjornfot/puistola/kolyachonok/warren/thrun/vlasic/misyul/strubble/lacombe/kochetkov/alnefelt/tracey later rounds At d Lundmark/tuomisto/McCarthy/helleson/attard/hataaka/sjolund up front farinacci/nikkanen/Keppen/Lang/koffer/Beckman/gutik/Moynihan/panic/soderblom/Donovan/gildon Edited June 2, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 3 hours ago, amato said: The more I read/see about these guys, the more there seems to be excited about around this draft class. I still REALLY hope Byram somehow falls to us, but when he doesn't, there are so many forward prospects to be excited about. Any of Zegras, Turcotte, Cozens, Podkolzin, Caulfield and I'll be happy. Trading back is tempting with so many options, but I think if whoever "our guy" is, if we have one, is on the board when we pick we should take him instead of risking trading back. I just think trade backs (within just a few spots) often work out. The Mantha + Bertuzzi > Mueller trade and the Cholowski + Hronek > Chychrun trade have worked out great for us. Granted, it's probably easier to find a trade partner in the latter half of the first round, than it is in the top 10. For that reason though, trading back from 6th to say 8th or 9th (if there is a team looking to move up) should garner more of a return than trading from 18th to 20th or even 16th to 20th. I'd definitely consider it, depending what players were on the board at the time, and what the team was offering in return... 1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: There are several players that I would be happy with, but my top 3 are Byram, then Podholzin, then Cozens. Honestly, if none of those 3 are available at 6 (doubtful) I look to trade back a few spots, acquire another 2nd and then draft BPA. I actually think there's a strong chance Podkolzin will be available at 6. I personally wouldn't take him there, but wouldn't hate it if we did... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, krsmith17 said: I just think trade backs (within just a few spots) often work out. The Mantha + Bertuzzi > Mueller trade and the Cholowski + Hronek > Chychrun trade have worked out great for us. Granted, it's probably easier to find a trade partner in the latter half of the first round, than it is in the top 10. For that reason though, trading back from 6th to say 8th or 9th (if there is a team looking to move up) should garner more of a return than trading from 18th to 20th or even 16th to 20th. I'd definitely consider it, depending what players were on the board at the time, and what the team was offering in return... I actually think there's a strong chance Podkolzin will be available at 6. I personally wouldn't take him there, but wouldn't hate it if we did... I agree with all of the above. Definitely wouldn't want to trade back out of the top ten. But I also don't want to trade back hoping someone stays there. If our scouts are even on 3-5 people and trade back that many spots, then I'm for it. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 10 hours ago, amato said: The more I read/see about these guys, the more there seems to be excited about around this draft class. I still REALLY hope Byram somehow falls to us, but when he doesn't, there are so many forward prospects to be excited about. Any of Zegras, Turcotte, Cozens, Podkolzin, Caulfield and I'll be happy. Trading back is tempting with so many options, but I think if whoever "our guy" is, if we have one, is on the board when we pick we should take him instead of risking trading back. The HYPE! It grows! 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,498 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 12:32 PM, Dabura said: I hope we draft this chick. She's a smoke show. At least give her a spot on Wingspan or something amirite? F*ck Carley Johnson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 Mock draft: Turcotte, Cozens predicted to be picked at No. 3 [NHL.com] Quote 6. Detroit Red Wings Kimelman -- Trevor Zegras, C, USA U-18 (NTDP): NTDP coach John Wroblewski said Zegras might have been the best passer on the U-18 team this season. At 6-0, 169, he needs to get stronger, but his offensive talent and ability to excel in the middle or on the wing makes him a desirable prospect. Morreale -- Vasili Podkolzin, RW, Neva St. Petersburg 2 (RUS-2): Podkolzin (6-1, 190) plays with a lot of intensity and has a great set of skills that earned him three games with a strong SKA St. Petersburg team in the Kontinental Hockey League. He has the attitude and speed to become a solid NHL player with proper development. He plays a mature game, has a high hockey IQ, good breakaway speed, and puck protection skills. Lepage -- Podkolzin: The dynamic forward did well on the international stage this season but didn't have the best finish with Russia at the 2019 IIHF World Under-18 Championship with four points (one goal, three assists) in seven games. Still, he has undeniable talent and could soon help bolster the forward depth in Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 Maybe we draft this guy 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/new-and-improved-five-nhl-re-entry-draft-prospects-worth-taking-a-chance-on gallant on the list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 I think I'm pretty solidly down with Zegras. There's so little separating these players that I'm cool with drafting for perceived need, and I believe Zegras has the potential to fill a role that's virtually impossible to fill (absent any dumb luck): Datsyukian Madman Playmaker Guy. These post-Datsyuk seasons have really made me appreciate just how much The Magic Man's ability to pull gamebreaking magic out of his ass on a nightly basis meant to all those great Euro Twins Era teams. If you can get yourself a forward who can see and think and execute like an Elias Pettersson, life becomes so much easier for your team. And if that guy is legit centerman? Hosanna! Two players in this draft class truly remind me of Datsyuk at times: Zegras and Podkolzin. Podkolzin has all of Datsyuk's assets except for maybe that galaxy brain hockey IQ. With Zegras, I strongly believe he does have that kind of hockey sense and I feel that the other areas of his game are generally solid. Above-average two-way game. Fantastic skater. Low-key scrappy. Good at faceoffs. I don't like his shot (any and all of them), but I think that'll improve as he bulks up. ...On the other hand, Podkolzin is so frking projectable. hnnnng 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dabura said: I think I'm pretty solidly down with Zegras. There's so little separating these players that I'm cool with drafting for perceived need, and I believe Zegras has the potential to fill a role that's virtually impossible to fill (absent any dumb luck): Datsyukian Madman Playmaker Guy. These post-Datsyuk seasons have really made me appreciate just how much The Magic Man's ability to pull gamebreaking magic out of his ass on a nightly basis meant to all those great Euro Twins Era teams. If you can get yourself a forward who can see and think and execute like an Elias Pettersson, life becomes so much easier for your team. And if that guy is legit centerman? Hosanna! Two players in this draft class truly remind me of Datsyuk at times: Zegras and Podkolzin. Podkolzin has all of Datsyuk's assets except for maybe that galaxy brain hockey IQ. With Zegras, I strongly believe he does have that kind of hockey sense and I feel that the other areas of his game are generally solid. Above-average two-way game. Fantastic skater. Low-key scrappy. Good at faceoffs. I don't like his shot (any and all of them), but I think that'll improve as he bulks up. ...On the other hand, Podkolzin is so frking projectable. hnnnng The Pretty Boy: Trevor Zegras Can only buy his shampoo/conditioner brand in a salon Avoids hits with ease, never gets injured All the newest/best hockey equipment Great passer, loves to work together and see his teammates score If he doesn't have anything nice to say, he doesn't say anything at all Unironically calls his GF "bae" Genuinely listens when you talk to him Says a short prayer before each game Eats healthy and maintains a balanced diet Cries when he thinks about how much he loves his "bae" Generally a nice guy Doesn't sweat, his hockey bag smells like febreeze air accents The Chad Fugly Guy: Vasili Podkolzin Cuts his own hair Spits into, or rubs dirt into, open wounds to heal them Still plays with a wood stick Trys to go coast-to-coast on every play Chirps at you constantly, refers to everyone as cyka blyat Views women as objects, still gets laid Does not register the feelings or emotions of others Takes a huge dump in the locker room toilet before each game Eats nothing but pizza, junk food, and beer Openly admits he only gives a f*** about himself Generally moody and s***ty to other people Hygiene minimal, hockey bag smells like an open sewer in bombay Edited June 3, 2019 by ChristopherReevesLegs 1 3 Bolgar, Dabura, Akakabuto and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: The Pretty Boy: Trevor Zegras Can only buy his shampoo/conditioner brand in a salon Avoids hits with ease, never gets injured All the newest/best hockey equipment Great passer, loves to work together and see his teammates score Unironically calls his GF "bae" Genuinely listens when you talk to him Says a short prayer before each game Eats healthy and maintains a balanced diet Cries when he thinks about how much he loves his "bae" Generally a nice guy Doesn't sweat, his hockey bag smells like febreeze air accents The Chad Fugly Guy: Vasili Podkolzin Cuts his own hair Spits into, or rubs dirt into, open wounds to heal them Still plays with a wood stick Trys to go coast-to-coast on every play Views women as objects, still gets laid Does not register the feelings or emotions of others Takes a huge dump in the locker room toilet before each game Eats nothing but pizza, junk food, and beer Openly admits he only gives a f*** about himself Generally moody and s***ty to other people Hygiene minimal, hockey bag smells like an open sewer in bombay But which of them looks like a hockey player? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: But which of them looks like a hockey player? IDK it's basically ugly abrasive Russian versus good looking sensitive North American AKA Ovi v. Crosby Which kinda player do we need more of? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,745 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: The Pretty Boy: Trevor Zegras Can only buy his shampoo/conditioner brand in a salon Avoids hits with ease, never gets injured All the newest/best hockey equipment Great passer, loves to work together and see his teammates score If he doesn't have anything nice to say, he doesn't say anything at all Unironically calls his GF "bae" Genuinely listens when you talk to him Says a short prayer before each game Eats healthy and maintains a balanced diet Cries when he thinks about how much he loves his "bae" Generally a nice guy Doesn't sweat, his hockey bag smells like febreeze air accents The Chad Fugly Guy: Vasili Podkolzin Cuts his own hair Spits into, or rubs dirt into, open wounds to heal them Still plays with a wood stick Trys to go coast-to-coast on every play Chirps at you constantly, refers to everyone as cyka blyat Views women as objects, still gets laid Does not register the feelings or emotions of others Takes a huge dump in the locker room toilet before each game Eats nothing but pizza, junk food, and beer Openly admits he only gives a f*** about himself Generally moody and s***ty to other people Hygiene minimal, hockey bag smells like an open sewer in bombay Makes weekly playlists for ”bae” with his favourite artists like jeff buckley and ed sheeran vs Never heard a song in his life 1 1 Dabura and ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: Makes weekly playlists for ”bae” with his favourite artists like jeff buckley and ed sheeran vs Never heard a song in his life Favorite player growing up: Amanda Kessell vs. Fav player growing up: Slava Voynov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
