2023 Offseason Thread

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

1 hour ago, mackel said:

You must be fun at parties.

He kinda sounds a bit like you

[Axl Foley 334]

30 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

He kinda sounds a bit like you

Lol. He does.

[bIueadams 776]

2 hours ago, Axl Foley said:

Lol. He does.

Don't bring his mother into this

[Axl Foley 334]

3 hours ago, bIueadams said:

Don't bring his mother into this

weak

[LeftWinger 5,131]

So. I'm really pulling for Cossa, but could this end up being a bad pick? How is Wallstedt doing? Also, looking at what's left of the Leddy trade to St. Louis, are we going to regret him trading that 2nd round pick (Raty.)

I'm not going all John Scott here and questioning the Yzerplan, but Cossa hasn't looked good. Should we be scared?

[AtlantaHotWings 1,125]

Not going to stress about Cossa quite yet. If he is giving up 4,5 goals in games come November I will be on the panic wagon. 

[marcaractac 3,963]

I don't think it's worth getting bent out of shape over a couple of prospect games playing behind some of the worst defense I've ever seen. 

As long as he shows the same type of growth in GR that he had in Toledo last season, I'd say everything is on track with him (Cossa).

He's gonna struggle from time to time. What is important is that he grows and learns from it. 

Edited September 18, 2023 by marcaractac

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

Maybe the goalies were told to take it easy.  

[Axl Foley 334]

4 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

So. I'm really pulling for Cossa, but could this end up being a bad pick? How is Wallstedt doing? Also, looking at what's left of the Leddy trade to St. Louis, are we going to regret him trading that 2nd round pick (Raty.)

I'm not going all John Scott here and questioning the Yzerplan, but Cossa hasn't looked good. Should we be scared?

I think it's reasonable to be concerned.

2 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Maybe the goalies were told to take it easy.  

Doubt

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

2 minutes ago, Axl Foley said:

I think it's reasonable to be concerned.

Doubt

if not, its pretty ugly

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

3 hours ago, marcaractac said:

I don't think it's worth getting bent out of shape over a couple of prospect games playing behind some of the worst defense I've ever seen. 

As long as he shows the same type of growth in GR that he had in Toledo last season, I'd say everything is on track with him (Cossa).

He's gonna struggle from time to time. What is important is that he grows and learns from it. 

I can deem Cossa a bust with out elevating my heart rate. No sweat off my back. Just on to the next prospect I guess. 

[bIueadams 776]

15 hours ago, Axl Foley said:

weak

yes that is how your mom described you

[bIueadams 776]

Why do you ding dongs think SY wasted a high 2nd, his best 2nd of 3 in the draft, on Trey Augustine?

Cossa's cooked. SY isn't debating how this plays out. He's already moved on.

Ned --> Husso

Cossa --> Augustine

[Axl Foley 334]

1 hour ago, bIueadams said:

yes that is how your mom described you

better

[bIueadams 776]

Just now, Axl Foley said:

better

Better get ur mom soon

[Axl Foley 334]

5 minutes ago, bIueadams said:

Better get ur mom soon

colder

[mackel 763]

On 9/17/2023 at 10:09 PM, The 91 of Ryans said:

He kinda sounds a bit like you

Lol

14 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

So. I'm really pulling for Cossa, but could this end up being a bad pick? How is Wallstedt doing? Also, looking at what's left of the Leddy trade to St. Louis, are we going to regret him trading that 2nd round pick (Raty.)

I'm not going all John Scott here and questioning the Yzerplan, but Cossa hasn't looked good. Should we be scared?

No, they took who they thought was the better goalie long term... if they're right great, if not... next man up.

[Motor City Mullets 303]

2 hours ago, bIueadams said:

Why do you ding dongs think SY wasted a high 2nd, his best 2nd of 3 in the draft, on Trey Augustine?

Cossa's cooked. SY isn't debating how this plays out. He's already moved on.

Ned --> Husso

Cossa --> Augustine

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Osgood whom gave the thumbs up on Cossa instead of Wallstedt after interviews prior to the draft?

The 1 thing that stuck with me was the opinion of a scout who more or less said be wary of the impressive numbers he's putting up as a netminder on a WHL/OHL/QMJHL team with loaded talent in front of him when compared to another player in a men's league overseas...

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

Just now, Motor City Mullets said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Osgood whom gave the thumbs up on Cossa instead of Wallstedt after interviews prior to the draft?

The 1 thing that stuck with me was the opinion of a scout who more or less said be wary of the impressive numbers he's putting up as a netminder on a WHL/OHL/QMJHL team with loaded talent in front of him when compared to another player in a men's league overseas...

I could play net in Sweden. Big ice, more reaction time, weak little noodle armed shooters, everyone too scared to go to net. 

[Motor City Mullets 303]

6 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

I could play net in Sweden. Big ice, more reaction time, weak little noodle armed shooters, everyone too scared to go to net. 

But you lack the hair...All netminders need rawkin' hair.

/runs fingers thru awesome mullet

Edited September 19, 2023 by Motor City Mullets

[bIueadams 776]

11 hours ago, Motor City Mullets said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Osgood whom gave the thumbs up on Cossa instead of Wallstedt after interviews prior to the draft?

The 1 thing that stuck with me was the opinion of a scout who more or less said be wary of the impressive numbers he's putting up as a netminder on a WHL/OHL/QMJHL team with loaded talent in front of him when compared to another player in a men's league overseas...

Why TF would anyone let Osgood decide anything?

[Motor City Mullets 303]

52 minutes ago, bIueadams said:

Why TF would anyone let Osgood decide anything?

I think he sat in on a prospect pre-draft interview with Yzerman and Co and liked his attitude.

[bIueadams 776]

4 minutes ago, Motor City Mullets said:

I think he sat in on a prospect pre-draft interview with Yzerman and Co and liked his attitude.

yeah but like he's a broadcaster

I'm calling bull s*** on this rumor

Provide a source liar

[Motor City Mullets 303]

3 minutes ago, bIueadams said:

yeah but like he's a broadcaster

I'm calling bull s*** on this rumor

Provide a source liar

“Ozzy had two stints and he was able to talk about the early days of his career and he told some real valuable stories that I think Sebastian really appreciated,” Draper said. “And then he also talked about when he came back on his second stint and how he was a different goalie. I think that conversation really registered with Sebastian.”

https://www.motownredwings.com/2021/07/24/how-chris-osgood-helped-convince-the-detroit-red-wings-to-draft-goalie-sebastian-cossa/

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

35 minutes ago, Motor City Mullets said:

“Ozzy had two stints and he was able to talk about the early days of his career and he told some real valuable stories that I think Sebastian really appreciated,” Draper said. “And then he also talked about when he came back on his second stint and how he was a different goalie. I think that conversation really registered with Sebastian.”

https://www.motownredwings.com/2021/07/24/how-chris-osgood-helped-convince-the-detroit-red-wings-to-draft-goalie-sebastian-cossa/

So Sebastian Cossa listening to Ozzy tell stories, and thus endearing himself to Ozzy, directly prompted his drafting by Yzerman?  Here's what I think happened: Yzerman saw a HUGE, handsome  North American goalie with a lot of swagger and decided to draft him and develop him into Ben Bishop part 2.  Yzerman saw a good, calm Swedish goalie, but knows that a Swedish goalie has never won, so he said nej to the goofy looking rslurred lad.