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Can't believe Holland paid this idiot instead of spending money on a good forward.

I have a secret enemy here negging my posts. I dare to meet you in the parking lot after the second period.

Pretty much.

Cleary and Bertuzzi, in particular, have looked god awful. I'd like to see us get younger at the deadline as well as in the offseason.

These are all problems which could have been addressed in the offseason. Our secondary scoring has been inconsistent the last few seasons, and we have aging forwards like Bertuzzi and Homer who were only headed downhill. Likewise, Cleary, Hudler and Franzen are known to be streaky players. Holland did nothing about it, really. We have a few younger forwards like Nyquist, Brunnstrom and Mursak, but it doesn't seem like they're going to be top 6 forwards anytime soon. This is basically the same forward group we had the last few years, only older. No reason to think we're magically going to be more consistent in our secondary scoring.

Joe Thornton is a huge *****. With that said, LGW.

I want a win. But if the Wings don't feel up to that at least someone f*** up Joe Thornton. Diving prick

I will be streaming the game at http://freeredwings.tv

Another year, another season, and another game with the Sharks. Yet, for me, this is clearly not just another game. There are three teams that I truly hate: the Sharks, the Penguins, and the s***hawks (do your best Jim Lahey impersonation here). Heck, these days, I hate the Sharks more than I do Avalanche. I did not think that was possible. I even bought a book to remind me, and help me reminisce, about our rivalry and my hatred for the Avs. Back to tonight. It does not hurt to remind oneself that Asian civilization and culture, at over six thousand years old, is among the oldest and wisest in the world. They eat sharks. The Euro-brethren core of our beloved team needs to learn and take inspiration in this fact. So, tonight, we butcher. Cooking optional. Hell, we don't even have to eat. Just win. Red Wing 'till I die.

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Yeah, he's an RHS with good power and accuracy. And I can't imagine anyone doing worse than Hudler at this stage. The guy is horrendously indecisive and contributes nothing; he wastes time and chances with his constant hesitation and his refusal to commit to anything. I think the concern with Eaves is his passing game, which is nothing special. Stuart? Really? The guy hits the net with maybe 10% of his shots. He's very good on defense, and he's an OK passer, but he's average at best in the offensive zone. Preseason is preseason.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8460743#&navid=nhl-keymatch 14 games, 1 goal and 4 assists for Tomas Holmstrom. http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8460743#&navid=nhl-keymatch 11 games, 1 goal and 2 assists for Todd Bertuzzi. I can't believe people will post "What's wrong with Datsyuk" and "What's up with Zetterberg" threads all day long and leave these two WASTES OF SPACE alone. Bertuzzi and Holmstrom are the biggest problem cases on the Red Wings right now, and imo, are keeping the team from developing the players they will need to make a run in this year's playoff. They are both 5-7 years past their primes, and 2-3 years past their effectiveness limit. Why is it that these two guys, who can't open up a square inch of ice, consistently see time with our big guns and drag them down, but a guy like Helm who can open up the whole rink can't sniff a shift with Hank? To me, this is the biggest problem with the Red Wings. The GM has invested in two guys who skate like they're on one leg, and the coach isn't willing to put them in the stands. "But Homer can't be effective without a top line center." HE ISN'T EFFECTIVE PERIOD. The Red Wings need to stop pretending it's 2002. Pavel and Hank need SPEED. They aren't 21 and 23 anymore. Get them some guys who can skate and open up the ice, already.

I wish somebody would punch coutures big ass ivories for spraying howard

Shots are still 24-13. Unbelievable.

brunnstrom looks great on the 3rd line. big, strong and talented. great compliment with helm.

just terrible defense right there, although the sharks guys think it was a "perfect situation" for the sharks

Hmmm look who just scored against the Sharks

OH THANK YOU JESUS! :siren: :siren: Not the prettiest goal I've ever seen but hey, whatever get's it done!

Abdelkader's third line last year in the Phoenix series was great. Abby's third line this season with Helm and anyone else has been great. I don't see what you think is terrible about his play. Game started. LGW!

Way ahead of ya.

Clowe.

Zetterberg and Datsyuk finally get their heads out of their asses and both get goals. Wings win eleventy billion to one.

What was the point of re-signing Eaves if he only plays every once and a while? I don't understand why he doesn't play more, he's a better player then Miller, has a good shot, actually plays pretty physical. Babs is a weird guy.

that's arguable. suter is definitely better defensively.

It actually works out to around a 51 point pace, doesn't it? Saying he's awful (even if he says it about himself) needs a big asterisk after it, as in awful *for Pavel Datsyuk. But I don't think linemates are much of an excuse. Last season people were talking about how he's the best player in the world. Linemates shouldn't have that big of an impact when you're dealing with a star player, which Datsyuk is. And it's not like he's had a bunch of great feeds that don't get converted. Sure that's happened on occasion, but more than points, he just doesn't look like himself this season. He doesn't have the puck on a string like he used to. And he's had a lot of turnovers (for him). Hopefully it's just a funk and he'll break out of it very, very soon.