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Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread
ChristopherReevesLegs and one other reacted to Neomaxizoomdweebie for a post in a topic
Zach = Name for a dbag Brady = My mom named me. Lane = All of my brothers have outdoorsy names like Forrest, or Branch, or Leif Cole = Last names as first names is so millenial. Reilly = I have no idea why I get bullied at school. No to all these guys. -
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News From Around the NHL *Mod warning page 75*
Akakabuto and one other reacted to krsmith17 for a post in a topic
Great Tournament for Hronek and Mantha. Hronek - 3 goals, 8 assists (11 points) in 10 games - 1st among defensemen. Mantha 7 goals, 7 assists (14 points) in 9 games - 5th. -
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2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
krsmith17 reacted to LeftWinger for a post in a topic
It's going to cost far less than you naysayers are thinking. Whomever trades for him. But he's not signing long term unless it's a serious TOP contender or it's Detroit. -
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2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
nyqvististhefuture reacted to ChristopherReevesLegs for a post in a topic
That is pure speculation. All we know about Trouba's situation in Winnipeg is that they disagreed on his worth at the beginning of the 2016/17 season and he held out until he felt he was paid fairly. After that contract completed he became an RFA for 22 days and then re-signed with Winnipeg again on a 1 year deal. None of that suggests he wants out of Winnipeg, only that he wants to be paid according to his own perceived value. In fact, if he was hell bent on leaving Winnipeg, he would've negotiated a 2 year deal last season and left the team as a UFA. But he didn't. Trouba's recent interview in the Athletic also painted the picture of a guy pretty happy to be playing in Winnipeg (paywall). RFA control has significant value. Any team that trades for Trouba is basically guaranteed a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd if he decides to run off and sign elsewhere. And, if Trouba ends up signing for more than $8.2 that team would receive two 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd. And it's entirely possible he will sign for that much. He's a player who's proven he will hold out for the money he feels he's owed, and for comparison, Esa Lindell - a 30 pt Dman of the same age as Trouba - just signed for $5.8 AAV. With that in mind, anyone wanting Trouba basically needs to offer the value of a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, plus more. Here's a trade suggestion from Rangers fans: To NYR: Jacob Trouba To Winnipeg: Lias Andersson (first round pick), Brett Howden (first round pick), 1st round pick, 5th round pick Here's another one I just found from Wings fans at WIIM: To DET: Jacob Trouba To Winnipeg: Joe Veleno, Jared McIssac, + picks Here's another from Jet's fans: To whomever: Jacob Trouba To Winnipeg: Great prospect, so-so prospect, 1st round pick, pick after the 1st round I don't think two high-end prospects and a 2nd is at all unreasonable for Trouba. For someone who really wants Trouba I think you're being incredibly naive when it comes to his value. I mean no insult by that. I agree that it's not the right time for a Trouba trade reagrdless. Especially if he has the secret desire to come home. -
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2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
krsmith17 reacted to ChristopherReevesLegs for a post in a topic
To add fuel to the fire, Trouba is represented by the same agent group that represents Dylan Larkin, Filip Larsson, David Pope, Ian Cole (Ann Arbor, Michigan), TJ Hensick (Howell, Michigan), Chris Conner (Westland, Michigan and former Red Wing/Griffin), Jack Campbell (Port Huron, Michigan), Ben Street (former Red Wing/Griffin), Ryan Kesler (Livonia, Michigan), and Andrew Copp (Ann Arbor, Michigan). So Yzerman definitely has contact with Trouba's agents, KO Sports. They especially seem to represent a large amount of guys coming out of Michigan. Adam Foote is also an agent for KO Sports. Yzerman drafted his son. Foote + Callahan to Detroit confirmed. You indirectly compared them quite clearly Do you want to say now that Hronek + Veleno + 2nd is a lot more realistic than Kuffner + Puempel + 2nd? Cause: I think they'd definitely get something close to that deal. Probably not both Veleno and Hronek, but maybe Cholowski and Veleno, or Cholowski and AA. Point being they're going to get significant return. -
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2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to MileHighWingsGuy for a post in a topic
If Yzerman is going after Trouba he needs to just do it. If he’s on the block there’s no telling who grabs him and what extension they sign him to. If he doesn’t matter then play the waiting game and see if he becomes a free agent. -
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Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread
Mckinley25 reacted to ChristopherReevesLegs for a post in a topic
Just hangin with my boys; Joe, Mike, Dave, Matt, Pete, and Jeph -
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Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread
ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to Mckinley25 for a post in a topic
That’s why I named my son, Jephthah. -
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2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
LeftWinger reacted to krsmith17 for a post in a topic
What are you talking about? I never said that we could acquire Trouba for anything close to Kuffner or Puempel. I'm not "splitting hairs". Literally all I'm saying is that IF we were to acquire Trouba, it would not cost us Hronek, Veleno and a 2nd round pick. -
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2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
nyqvististhefuture reacted to krsmith17 for a post in a topic
Green's NTC becomes a M-NTC on February 1st of next season, in which he would have to submit a 10 team no trade list. Assuming Green is healthy, and we're not a playoff team by that time, he will 100% be traded. Yzerman has no ties to Green, and would not feel obligated to honor a deal made by the previous GM. -
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2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to nyqvististhefuture for a post in a topic
Well just saying cause someone said we can move some of our 2nds , if they really wanted to deal him for picks or prospects just imagine what they’d get for him on trade deadline , easily would be #1 dman available ... I’m hoping not cause I’m hoping mike green will be healthy for once so yzerman would ship his ass out for a 1st or more 2nds i agree with you with the hefty price it would take and with where our team stands I’d just wait it out till July 2020 and see what happens rather than trading 3 really top pieces for one piece even though it’s a good one , I’m a greedy f*** and I’d rather take a chance and keep all 4 its amazing how nobody here is like patient and can’t wait a year and willing to give up all these assets .... remember what yzerman said ... patience patience patience -
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2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
nyqvististhefuture reacted to ChristopherReevesLegs for a post in a topic
Since you fools wanna be foolish, here is what they're saying over at the Jets boards To Detroit: Jacob Trouba To Winnipeg Joe Veleno, Filip Hronek, 2019 2nd If you're ok with a deal like that ok, I'm not -
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2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to ChristopherReevesLegs for a post in a topic
I agree, it's not the right time to execute a massive trade/offer-sheet that will cost us prospects and/or picks. A major UFA signing is about the most we can hope for. Most fans were not high on Bertuzzi either. I think most would have included him in a trade as an after thought just a season or two ago. Now he's a player who could garner us a 1st rounder in a trade. My point being, personal emotions aside, it's way way way too early to sell Rasmussen like it is most of our prospects. I'm not very high on Zadina at the current moment, but I'm still absolutely unwilling to sell him. The chances I could be wrong about him are far too great. I think the Callahan trade is realistic because of the situation Tampa is in. But Winnipeg does not have their hands tied in the same way. Trouba will probably be with the Jets for the immediate future. -
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News From Around the NHL *Mod warning page 75*
Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to Neomaxizoomdweebie for a post in a topic
At least it wasnt Mantha who gave Larkin the groin injury.