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I literally gave you a comparable in terms of how I see Zadina panning out. Being as that Zadina's future hasn't happened yet, giving an example of another's player's career that has taken shape seems like a reasonable model to show this. This is literally how projections work. I don't understand your confusion. My take on Zadina is that his development is slower than expected, but I see nothing that tells me he won't still develop into a top line forward. His defense needs some work (not at all unusual for young, offensive forwards at the NHL level). He would benefit by having a better center, and is not at the level where he is going to generate a lot of points on his own. He also will probably get a lot of his points on the PP, and will be more dependant on that then I would like. My overall take, as I said in my last post, is that he will continue to increase his point total each season, and will become a 60 point player within 3 years. This is a better track than what you see, but is not at all unrealistic.

Yeah but you could easily write off the blunder as hindsight. All the same sources that are currently saying Lafreniere is "in a tier to himself" were saying the exact same things about Patrick and Hischier. It was a two horse race and nobody else was close. So you can fall back on "all available indications were that Patrick would be a stud", and "nobody could have imagined it would turn out like this". Of course, that's bulls*** but it would convince the dummies.

I'm not down on him. He's been perfectly "meh" so far regarding trades. Say most of them were pretty bad is just a reasonable assessment of what he's done w/respect to the trade market. I actually like his drafting, though I didn't on draft day. I was very wrong about Seider, Steve exceeded my expectations there.

"With the 2020 1st overall pick the Detroit Red Wings are proud to select - from SKA St. Petersburg of the VHL - Yaroslav Askarov"

Substance? This isn't substance. PP1: Same old 'hope' argument I just disparaged PP2 & 3: Confused hyping of an entirely different player not named Zadina Do you have an opinion on Zadinas actual performance? Like play style? Strengths and weaknesses? I've watched 2 years of him now and I feel like I have decent understanding of this player. Curious to know what your take is.

You keep me up. I can't sleep. I see a shrink. Also, you don't know s*** about hockey.

Make jokes all you want. You did everything but scoff the last two years when I suggested trading the 1st overall. Now you've "always been open to it". The only person more critical than you was KRsmith, and I'm sure he's still holding out hope that Lafreniere is "borderline generational". Lol. Anyway, the point is that you're a flip flopper and your takes are as boring and uncreative as you (presumably) are.

You want substance? Ok. After less than a half seasons worth of games. Zadina is at a .5 PPG pace as a 20 year old rookie. That's a small sample size. And it only translates to a 40-45 point season. Low end 2nd liner. If you think he's peaked at 20, then yeah, trade him. I personally think he's got a lot more potential. I don't think he plateaus at a Hudler/Nyquist level tho. As a comparison, I give you fellow Czech Jakub Vrana. He's roughly the same size as Zadina. Was drafted 13th overall in 2014. Is currently 24 and in his 4th season. Vrana made the NHL at 20 just like Zadina. In his first full season, he only scored 27 points in 73 games. Then 47 points in 82 games and was on pace to finally break 60 points this season. And he was playing on a line with Backstrom which probably padded his numbers a bit. Zadina was already on pace as a rookie to match Vranas 3rd year numbers while not having anyone as good as Backstrom as his center. And while it took Vrana 4 seasons to break 60 points, I think Zadina will break 60 points by age 23. This is the trajectory I see for Zadina.